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mycorrizhal fungi cultivation for marijauna
    #14148501 - 03/19/11 01:48 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I would like to cultivate different mycorrizhal fungi to use for marijauna cultivation. 
I want to be able to continually supply my own soil with these mycorrizzhal fungi.

What is the best fungi to use?

What is the best way to accomplish this?

Where do I get them?

What is the best way to cultivate this wonderful fungi?

Thanx I probably have many other questions.
Whatever help I can get is appreciated much.

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Re: mycorrizhal fungi cultivation for marijauna [Re: savage.renegade]
    #14148549 - 03/19/11 02:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

well if u do do it do a comparison one with no fungi
goto fungi.com i think i remember correctly (correct me if im wrong) but paul stamets flogs those as well, notjust medicinal fungi
their expensive i guess but oh.
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Re: mycorrizhal fungi cultivation for marijauna [Re: savage.renegade]
    #14148562 - 03/19/11 02:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: mycorrizhal fungi cultivation for marijauna [Re: Biffzilla]
    #14148566 - 03/19/11 02:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I would just use some Fox Farm Light Warrior starter soil.  It is supposedly high in mycorrhizal fungal cultures.

On a side note, you could try taking some rut cuttings from a test plant, surface sterilize them, and then try to grow out the mycorrhizal cultures associated with that particular plant on some agar.  That technique has been used extensively in academics labs.  Mycorrhizae occur in both endo and ecto forms.  It may be almost impossible to culture ectomycorrhizae with surface sterilization.  You may have to just use to sort of agar streak technique as far as those are concerned. 


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Re: mycorrizhal fungi cultivation for marijauna [Re: Biffzilla]
    #14148574 - 03/19/11 02:05 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yes control tests would be good to see if it actuallys works effectively


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Re: mycorrizhal fungi cultivation for marijauna [Re: savage.renegade]
    #14148597 - 03/19/11 02:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Are you trying to grow your own cultures from what you have, or are you going to buy your own to culture? 

If you are trying to cultivate your own, it would be very hard to identify what you have as being actual mycorrhizae.  You would need to do DNA sequencing and such in order to verify that it is indeed a mycorrhizal fungal culture and not some other endophyte, fungus, etc.  And I am going to guess that you don't have access to a DNA sequencing center.  That would be sweet though.  I wish I had my own sequencing lab.  :sad:


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Re: mycorrizhal fungi cultivation for marijauna [Re: M11]
    #14148621 - 03/19/11 02:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I would just use some Fox Farm Light Warrior starter soil.  It is supposedly high in mycorrhizal fungal cultures.



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M11 said:
I would just use some Fox Farm Light Warrior starter soil.  It is supposedly high in mycorrhizal fungal cultures.



Yes I could do that.you think I could take a sample of that product and culture it on agar so I could stock my own cultures. Sorry I don't know much about this and doing Google search has only given me the name of the ones they use. I know for example one used is dead mans foot, I geuss I could find that and cultivated it, but I don't want to hunt these.

I believe some this fungi release spores into the soil and require certain bacteria to be effective. Is there any way I could buy a product and start some cultures? I know alot of these products have many different fungus so I don't know how easy it would be


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Re: mycorrizhal fungi cultivation for marijauna [Re: savage.renegade]
    #14148631 - 03/19/11 02:14 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

WooW!!!
my cat's plants have a root net inredible!!!from the birth the roots go very fast and also the growth
is a revolution in the cultivation....
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Re: mycorrizhal fungi cultivation for marijauna [Re: funga]
    #14148677 - 03/19/11 02:22 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I guess it depends on your goals.

I would just go with this.

http://www.ageoldorganic.com/29/water-soluble-soil-and-root-inoculant-with-mycorrhizae/

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Re: mycorrizhal fungi cultivation for marijauna [Re: M11]
    #14148705 - 03/19/11 02:26 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

humbolts  mycomadness


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Re: mycorrizhal fungi cultivation for marijauna [Re: penhed]
    #14148726 - 03/19/11 02:30 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

My goal is to continuosly provide medical providers with the best mycorrizzhal fungi to get the best results.


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Re: mycorrizhal fungi cultivation for marijauna [Re: M11]
    #14149260 - 03/19/11 04:13 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Are you trying to grow your own cultures from what you have, or are you going to buy your own to culture? 

If you are trying to cultivate your own, it would be very hard to identify what you have as being actual mycorrhizae.  You would need to do DNA sequencing and such in order to verify that it is indeed a mycorrhizal fungal culture and not some other endophyte, fungus, etc.  And I am going to guess that you don't have access to a DNA sequencing center.  That would be sweet though.  I wish I had my own sequencing lab.  :sad:



So you wouldn't be able to identify them with a good microscope?


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Re: mycorrizhal fungi cultivation for marijauna [Re: savage.renegade]
    #14149816 - 03/19/11 06:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

You may be able to make some distinctions based on morphortypes, but I highly doubt you will be able to determine much from a microscope.  You might be able to find the genus, but that is a big might.


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Of course, then there's the problem of eating vermiculite. On the bright side, it makes your poop and teeth glitter.  Just pretend it's christmas.
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Those mushrooms are fine.  Your friend is a pussy.
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Re: mycorrizhal fungi cultivation for marijauna [Re: M11]
    #14150011 - 03/19/11 06:51 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i been using the humboldt nutrients "myco madness" for some time now. it has like 20 different kinds of fungus and almost as many kinds of bacteria. it has contains two kinds of trichaderma.

i swtiched over from a similar product i had been using (another organically derived mycorrizhal suppliment) after i did a trial and found i got faster root recovery after transplanting and a bigger root mass over duration of my vegetative and early (up to 6 wks into it) flowering.


i dont know if the trichaderma helps the myco madness do what it has been doing for my roots, i have never used a mycorrhizal suppl. that contained trichadermas before.

it is my hypothesis that you would have to play with lots of different combinations of fungus and bacterial cultures. every mycorrhizal suppliment i have ever used was labeled as a blend of multiple fungus species in conjuction with beneficial bacteria.

i am a newb, to mycology but i fucking love myco; suppliments for my botanical pursuits. speeds up root recovery after moving clones into veg and makes a crazy mess of beautiful roots real fast.


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"Mycologists on the other hand grow for the love of growing.  They want to experiment with various species, substrates, and fruiting environments. They'll move on to isolate strains, attempt hybridization, and in general treat cultivation as an artform, rather than a chore that must be performed as a means to an end.  They'll work twice as hard for a ten percent gain, just for the love of perfection..."

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Re: mycorrizhal fungi cultivation for marijauna [Re: bakerx]
    #14150020 - 03/19/11 06:53 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

so i kept trying to cut and paste the guaranteed analysis from the mycomadness product page but i cant get it to paste right

mycomadness ingredients

the above is a link to the mycomadness ingredients list. good luck in your pursuit. god bless the medical growers.


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I am looking for any shiitake strains, any oyster strains, and lions mane cultures. i got cool edibles to trade.



"Mycologists on the other hand grow for the love of growing.  They want to experiment with various species, substrates, and fruiting environments. They'll move on to isolate strains, attempt hybridization, and in general treat cultivation as an artform, rather than a chore that must be performed as a means to an end.  They'll work twice as hard for a ten percent gain, just for the love of perfection..."

Roger Rabbit


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Re: mycorrizhal fungi cultivation for marijauna [Re: bakerx]
    #14150078 - 03/19/11 07:05 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Well from what I've read most cannot be cultured on a medium, but must be done on live roots.http://www.invam.caf.wvu.edu/#  here's a cool link that sells cultures. Any opinions?
I guess I'm going to have to become a real mycologist and find access to a lab. I think I'm going to a college to find somebody who is doing something similiar.  http://www.invam.caf.wvu.edu/#


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Re: mycorrizhal fungi cultivation for marijauna [Re: savage.renegade]
    #14163989 - 03/22/11 11:07 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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