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Drugstore Cowboy
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SamuelLJackson said: i heard from the other thread already made about this that the drug they took (and died from) probably wasnt even 2c-e, and was actually mdpv.
and the news story supports that claim (though anecdotally, not in a concrete manner) when they quote one of the kids as saying "that the 2c-e didnt have the effects it normally did"
If they're regulated, kids will stop dying and the fear mongers will loose their power. never going to happen.
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People just need to be more responsible with RC's in particular. It just takes a few incidents to have a psychedelic become demonized and banned like with LSD and eventually all psychedelics in the 60's/early 70's.
Currently though it seems like so many new RC's are coming out that it is going to be impossible for them to get a hold on this situation. I remember reading somewhere some company out of China said that if they continue to ban substances they have hundreds if not thousands more ready to be released.
People just need to be safe and respectful of those powerful and often profound substances.
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how fucking stupid can you be to start cutting up lines of 2c-e and snorting it? LIKE WHAT THE FUCK, its not god damn cocaine...
"According to police, 21-year-old Lamere arrived at a spring break party in Blaine and began offering "2C-I" to the guests, saying it was a hallucinogen. He poured out the grayish powder on a living room table, cut a few lines, and snorted one. Robinson-Davis did a line after Lamere. At least 10 other guests took the drug as well."
do you guys believe it will be illegal now :O?
Edited by harrisonbrtn (03/22/11 01:35 PM)
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Re: 1 Dead 10 Hospitalized - 2C-E [Re: harrisonbrtn]
#14164675 - 03/22/11 01:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Probably, makes me sad. 2c-e is fucking great for surface tripping. phenethylamines never go too deep with me but they make the most lovely candy.
I'll never forget watching 1408 and Cloverfield and The Prestige on 37mgs of 2c-e
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Drugstore Cowboy said: Probably, makes me sad. 2c-e is fucking great for surface tripping. phenethylamines never go too deep with me but they make the most lovely candy.
I'll never forget watching 1408 and Cloverfield and The Prestige on 37mgs of 2c-e
wtf? if i was on that much 2c-e i could barly watch tv lol
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Re: 1 Dead 10 Hospitalized - 2C-E [Re: harrisonbrtn]
#14164715 - 03/22/11 01:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've since grown out of my Hunter thompson phase.
I've done fear and loathing in Atlantic City though 
Second edit: Actually, my first ever trip with RCs was 25mgs of 2ce comboed with 30-35mgs of 2c-i. It spun into an 18 hour trip that didn't stop peaking until very near the end. My buddy took me to the park, worst car ride ever.
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they weren't even kids, they were legal adults who should have known the risks they were taking. it's 100% their fault
i hate the scientists who get paid by the government to tell the government what it wants to hear. scientists in america need to grow some fucking balls and tell the truth..
a real scientist doesn't lie
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Re: 1 Dead 10 Hospitalized - 2C-E [Re: reid52]
#14166151 - 03/22/11 05:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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reid52 said: i hate the scientists who get paid by the government to tell the government what it wants to hear. scientists in america need to grow some fucking balls and tell the truth..
a real scientist doesn't lie
it has to do with the fact that when you hear an "expert" on the news (who has a legit doctorate) the news picks someone who works in the general field of biochemistry or medicine or something like that, rather than someone who spends their life doing research on psychedelics specifically.
the news wouldnt dare put someone like alexander shulgin or albert hofmann on the air. the news wouldnt publicly embarass the government. the news is ABOUT the government half the time. the news purposely puts people on the air who dont specialize in psychedelics to talk about psychedelics. and then those 'experts' (with their vast knowledge that touches upon psychedelics, yet their vast lack of knowledge SPECIFIC to psychedelics) begin to say shit which to the average person sounds logical and scary.
meanwhile i sit back and laugh at how dumb they make themselves look. and then i know that when theyre done with their paid interview for being the doctor that held up the governments opinion on psychedelics, they go back to their lab and work on stuff like ways to build immunity in plants to diseases, or research on malaria, or research on whatever the fuck they ACTUALLY study and have concrete knowledge on.
so really, that 'expert' isnt lying, they just arent informed about the material they are given to talk about, and make broad generalizations that more often than not are wrong. and then john doe sittin on his sofa says "wow, that scientist said that drug can kill me, i support making it illegal, i think of the children and i want the world to be a better place for the greater good!"
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Re: 1 Dead 10 Hospitalized - 2C-E [Re: harrisonbrtn]
#14166343 - 03/22/11 06:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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harrisonbrtn said: how fucking stupid can you be to start cutting up lines of 2c-e and snorting it? LIKE WHAT THE FUCK, its not god damn cocaine...
"According to police, 21-year-old Lamere arrived at a spring break party in Blaine and began offering "2C-I" to the guests, saying it was a hallucinogen. He poured out the grayish powder on a living room table, cut a few lines, and snorted one. Robinson-Davis did a line after Lamere. At least 10 other guests took the drug as well."
do you guys believe it will be illegal now :O?
Well its not so much if it will become illegal but when, no way of knowing. Personally I think it has another year or two, or more on it.
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Re: 1 Dead 10 Hospitalized - 2C-E [Re: ahchela]
#14166706 - 03/22/11 07:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I liked how she told you how to find it and the other version of it 2-ci for anyone who was having trouble right then when searching for 2-cb (this is all the kids out there in tv who are not savvy and are hearing for the first time on this broadcast)
"just google it, its right there on the internet" fuckin television
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mattritt said: Yea, but 2C-e isnt the safest compound. Kids shouldnt be able to get ahold of this. You wouldnt let some kid buy any other dangerous chemical. These things need to be regulated properly.
Yes! Yes! Ban Them.... 'It's for the Children...'
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Re: 1 Dead 10 Hospitalized - 2C-E [Re: starfire_xes]
#14168443 - 03/23/11 05:08 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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one time I ate a massive pile of 2C-E off a dictionary cover throughout the course of a night... ended up in the hospital twelve hours later, but that was because I dislocated my shoulder in my sleep
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mattritt said: Yea, but 2C-e isnt the safest compound. Kids shouldnt be able to get ahold of this. You wouldnt let some kid buy any other dangerous chemical. These things need to be regulated properly.
Yes! Yes! Ban Them.... 'It's for the Children...'
Are you trying to be sarcastic? So you think kids should have access to 2C-e? Do you think kids should have access to muriatic acid? Or a bottle of acetone? No, well 2C-e is as dangerous as those chemicals in the wrong hands. Dont be naive. Im still under the opinion that you should have to be licensed and trained to use these compounds before being able to get ahold of them. I feel this should be an option available to anyone who pursues it, but shouldnt be as easy as walking to a party on a college campus and saying anyone got some acid? "No, but we've got 2C-e, mephedrone, and some powder molly" If these things were available to licensed people and they could walk in and have some lab grade LSD, MDMA, and DMT. Then they'd also be trained to use it responsibly and it'd be clean and pure. That would be leaps and bounds safer than a bunch of nasty research chemicals that china is trying to poison us with to get us ready for take over.
American and Swedish made chemicals only guys!!
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ahchela
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Think you're in the wrong neighborhood with pro-prohibition propoganda

try
http://www.foxnews.con
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Ummm, suck off. Tim Leary had the same idea. Im not for prohibition, I'm for regulation. Theres a difference, read my post and you'll understand that.
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Do I need to quote you? lol
I'm for freedom, and I'm not a fan of TL so thats voided. If I want to walk in the store, buy a gun and some cocaine, who are you to stop me?
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ahchela said: Do I need to quote you? lol
I'm for freedom, and I'm not a fan of TL so thats voided. If I want to walk in the store, buy a gun and some cocaine, who are you to stop me?

Yeah, that attitude will really help. And calling everyone a pig who doesn't agree with your idea of freedom is pretty damn fox news in it's own right.
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Yeah I guess so, still doesn't change the fact of the matter.
Regulating drugs to the point where they are in the hands of doctors alone = prohibition. If you cannot buy it like cigarette, then its prohibition.
We're not debating in congress here, we're just stating our opinions. As it stands, I do not support the war on drugs. Its fascism out right, hence relating the pro-prohibition party with an authoritarian symbol.
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All the war on drugs is is Uncle Sam getting in on the hustle. And he's the biggest boss in town. The DEA is a international task force ever since they were deployed to Nicaragua and Colombia and God knows where else.
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ahchela said: Do I need to quote you? lol
I'm for freedom, and I'm not a fan of TL so thats voided. If I want to walk in the store, buy a gun and some cocaine, who are you to stop me?

Thanks for being part of the problem. You exemplify exactly what Fox News is talking about when they say we have a drug problem. If you sat at home and smoked a joint and ate fucking muffin they wouldn't and DON'T give a fuck. But if youre out doing stupid shit with GUNS AND COCAINE, then they are gunna give a fuck!! Its not the responsible users that got this made illegal, its people like YOU and the people that died, and more important the guy that gave it to them. THIS is why drugs are illegal.
I dont think just anyone should be able to just grab a drug and do it without some regulation by the government. Drugs are dangerous, lets not be coy and faggot about it. They kill people, thats dangerous! BUT they can be used responsibly by people educated in their use. So I feel they should be available. But I feel that they should be licensed to use and that access to this licensing should be available to people. Maybe have a license to use it yourself in a controlled setting with a guide, and then a license to use it without a guide. Like a learners permit. This was another thing Leary talked about.
And I know why you hate Leary because he was such a loud mouth, I wholeheartedly agree. But his books are VERY good. Young Leary was a smart man, old Leary was a shell. He'd been cast aside by all his peers, but he was reckless. Maybe not with a gun and cocaine, but with his words and LSD. And this is why these things are illegal. Are you understanding?
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