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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Poid]
    #14160826 - 03/21/11 06:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Have you ever had out of control kids who beat the shit out of nerds? Would you know how to deal with them?





yup... make them nerd slaves but shouldnt the focus really be on prevention?


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14160962 - 03/21/11 07:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Father turns in own kids for bullying

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An Ipswich father claims he was so irate when he caught his two children attacking another that he turned them into police to be charged.

The father, known only as Matt, told Brisbane radio station 97.3FM he witnessed his 17-year-old son and 15-year-old daughter bashing a 13-year-old boy, breaking his jaw, because he wore glasses.

Enraged after experiencing similar bullying in his childhood, he marched his children to a police station to have them charged with assault.

He said he also sold his son’s car and daughter’s horse as further punishment.

"Yesterday afternoon I’m on my way home ... come ‘round the corner three streets from home [and] there’s my 17-year-old son and my 15-year-old daughter and they are fair beating the living crap out of this kid," he said.

"I pulled up, I damaged the car [as] I put the car up the gutter. I grabbed a hold of both of them, threw them in the back of the car, got the young kid that they were beating up ... took him home to his parents [and] marched both my kids into the local police station.

"They have both now been charged with assault."

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He said it was not the first time the teens had bullied the younger boy.

“About three weeks ago it was brought to my attention, through the school they attend, that they have been bullying a child at school,” he said.

The children later admitted to bullying the younger teen because he wore glasses, the same reason their father was bullied as a child.

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The father said he and his wife would stand behind the parents of the bullied child if they pressed ahead with the charges.




Basically I wonder, what would you do in this situation if you were the dad?  Obviously it was very serious bullying if they broke the kids jaw, they certainly deserve some serious discipline for it, but I have problems with parents turning their on children in to the police for anything short of murder.  Personally, I'd probably do everything the dad did except for the part where he drives them to the police station.  I'd probably leave it up to the parents of the other kid to report it to the police if they wanted to.  How about you?

Another opinion of mine: picking on someone for wearing glasses is probably the stupidest reason to pick on someone that I can imagine.




it sounds to me that the father was actually the reason they were bullying this kid


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: igwna] * 1
    #14160979 - 03/21/11 07:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

How did you come up with that?


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: igwna]
    #14160993 - 03/21/11 07:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

What would I do? I'll tell you what I would do..

I would slam on the breaks and promptly get out the vehicle. That way the little bastards know an impending doom is seconds away . If they didn't stop the beating at the sound of my breaks going off, I'd beat them over the head with my fire breathing fists.

WINNING.


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14161009 - 03/21/11 07:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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How did you come up with that?




he sounds real strict and maybe a bit of a douchebag to his kids. especially if he brought them to the police station himself.

also, beating someone up for wearing glasses is fucking retarded and i doubt someone came up with the idea on a whim.

the father wears glasses so it seems like they were taking out aggression for their father on the other kid.


i'm no expert, just seems that way.


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14161052 - 03/21/11 07:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Have you ever had out of control kids who beat the shit out of nerds? Would you know how to deal with them?





yup... make them nerd slaves but shouldnt the focus really be on prevention?


How is turning your own kids in not a form of prevention?


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: BothHands]
    #14161076 - 03/21/11 07:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Of course the second wrong could be a great deterrent for hundreds of other wrongs.




Control people through terror, Greeeeaaat :super:


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14161156 - 03/21/11 07:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Solve all your problems with violence, greeeaaat. :super:


It's not like this sort of behavior has been holding humanity back for ages...:rolleyes:


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: igwna]
    #14161257 - 03/21/11 08:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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How did you come up with that?




he sounds real strict and maybe a bit of a douchebag to his kids. especially if he brought them to the police station himself.

also, beating someone up for wearing glasses is fucking retarded and i doubt someone came up with the idea on a whim.

the father wears glasses so it seems like they were taking out aggression for their father on the other kid.


i'm no expert, just seems that way.




Ah ok, I see your reasoning there.  The full article gave me the impression that the dad doesn't wear glasses anymore (maybe he got contacts or lasik?) but he used to when he was in school, so I don't think they were taking out aggression for their dad on the kid just because he had glasses. 

Does being strict make kids mean? My parents weren't really strict so idk...I would think that if they were that terrible then he wasn't strict enough?  I don't have kids though so I can't speak from experience.


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Poid]
    #14161280 - 03/21/11 08:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Poid said:
Have you ever had out of control kids who beat the shit out of nerds? Would you know how to deal with them?





yup... make them nerd slaves but shouldnt the focus really be on prevention?


How is turning your own kids in not a form of prevention?





prevention meant you stop it from happening, did the kids not beat the 13yo,
did they not break his jaw? seems that prevention doesnt come after the fact


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14161292 - 03/21/11 08:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Of course the second wrong could be a great deterrent for hundreds of other wrongs.




Control people through terror, Greeeeaaat :super:





it's not terror, it's action... when you know there's a severe consequence
when you get caught what are the odds you're going to do it


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14161296 - 03/21/11 08:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Poid said:
Have you ever had out of control kids who beat the shit out of nerds? Would you know how to deal with them?





yup... make them nerd slaves but shouldnt the focus really be on prevention?


How is turning your own kids in not a form of prevention?





prevention meant you stop it from happening...


Why should the focus only be on prevention, then? And what makes you think that this type of thing is easy to prevent? Sometimes kids do what they want regardless of the consequences. :shrug:


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...did the kids not beat the 13yo, did they not break his jaw? seems that prevention doesnt come after the fact


Punishing them will likely prevent it from happening again.


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It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14161320 - 03/21/11 08:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Poid said:
Have you ever had out of control kids who beat the shit out of nerds? Would you know how to deal with them?





yup... make them nerd slaves but shouldnt the focus really be on prevention?


How is turning your own kids in not a form of prevention?



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Prisoner#1 said:
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
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BothHands said:
Of course the second wrong could be a great deterrent for hundreds of other wrongs.




Control people through terror, Greeeeaaat :super:





it's not terror, it's action... when you know there's a severe consequence
when you get caught what are the odds you're going to do it




Its reactionary, people will continue to do it regardless of the consequences and chopping peoples hands off isnt gonna solve anything other then satiating some childish desire for revenge.


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