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Seanfu
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Kratom, how is it?
#14159924 - 03/21/11 03:30 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I cant find much info on it. It is an opiate apparently, but how are the side effects?
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245willow19

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Re: Kratom, how is it? [Re: Seanfu]
#14159951 - 03/21/11 03:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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hahahahahahahaha no hahaha
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iSHACKA
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from what i read about it today. It appeared to be a stimulant, compared to as cafine. This is only what i read not personal experiance.
it seemed chilling lol
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Re: Kratom, how is it? [Re: iSHACKA]
#14160503 - 03/21/11 05:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Go to ODD dude.. Lots of info on it.
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Maharishi_2_U
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Kratom is cool, not gonna knock you out, but is pretty enjoyable... Then again I never dose much. Try it, you likey! Stay away from extracts, try powdered leaves toss n wash tek. bc
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Re: Kratom, how is it? [Re: Seanfu]
#14160983 - 03/21/11 07:23 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I love it. Comedown is lax and easy on the mind. I might order a pound of it soon
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Re: Kratom, how is it? [Re: Seanfu]
#14161144 - 03/21/11 07:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Read the erowid Kratom vault for better info. Beware though, because there is a LOT of shit/ineffective/weak kratom on the market. However if you get good Kratom it is a very pleasent recreational experience, I've never gotten entheogenic value out of it but it can definitely turn a bad day into a good day quickly
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Re: Kratom, how is it? [Re: Oohway]
#14161185 - 03/21/11 07:57 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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All depends on strains/ how u take it and dose...
white vein = coffee buzz
red vein = good "opiate like" high
tea = short weak buzz
capsules = 5 or 6 hour high 
my dose is 15 capsules. its my sweet spot.
I get a great buzz of 15 caps of red vein 
dont forget to smoke once it hits you
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Re: Kratom, how is it? [Re: Oohway]
#14161187 - 03/21/11 07:57 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I got a sample before. Like 5 grams of the best kind or something. Didn't do much. But then again, 80mg of hydrocodone doesn't do much to me. Just makes me wonder what oxy or heroin are like. I liked the sample of 15x kanna I received. You can snort it, smoke it, eat it, stick it up your butt? Its more of a stimulant though.
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Re: Kratom, how is it? [Re: tospace]
#14161195 - 03/21/11 08:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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i got like 5 different strains right now. some are deff better then others
super indo, and red vein Borneo are the ones most like opiates...
id rather dose kratom then take percs.
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Revolutionst
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Re: Kratom, how is it? [Re: P-O]
#14162009 - 03/21/11 10:44 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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i like it. used to take it daily and have a few hits of green before i went to work. you feel really content while on it, and have no problems doing active things on it. it lessens physical pain if that is what is desired. opiate like effects? i think so... heard of people using kratom to taper off of harder drugs. a co-worker likened the effects to pills when i let him have some of my tea.
a good dose imo is a few grams, 2-5g. you'll be in an altered state for a few hours, completely able to do anything you can do sober. you will also get withdrawals from it if you consume it daily for a week, and tolerance slightly increases. get the powder and mix it quickly with some juice/milk and wash it down while it's still swirling, the stuff tastes terrible.
i'd recommend taking it with some herb if you have it. goes really well with it.
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its a good calm mellow useful medical substance in my opinion very worth it.
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I don't know. The kratom I always got sucked donkey balls. Didn't do anything other than make me paranoid about my breathing feeling too shallow (not sure if that was psycho-somatic, though, because I expected "opiate"-like effects).
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Re: Kratom, how is it? [Re: P-O]
#14162724 - 03/22/11 01:14 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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So, tea is just a weak buzz then, eh? Not a good method? I've done kratom a few times and most were by tea and using a good dose (8-10 grams) of crushed leaves. One time that I got the best buzz was by toss and wash (I did it sloppily and it tasted horrible, BTW). Capsules are the best? Do you package your own or buy?Quote:
PostiveOutlook said: All depends on strains/ how u take it and dose...
white vein = coffee buzz
red vein = good "opiate like" high
tea = short weak buzz
capsules = 5 or 6 hour high 
my dose is 15 capsules. its my sweet spot.
I get a great buzz of 15 caps of red vein 
dont forget to smoke once it hits you
So, tea is just a weak buzz then, eh? Not a good method? I've done kratom a few times and most were by tea and using a good dose (8-10 grams) of crushed leaves. One time that I got the best buzz was by toss and wash (I did it sloppily and it tasted horrible, BTW). Capsules are the best? Do you package your own or buy?
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Re: Kratom, how is it? [Re: KingEmblem]
#14162899 - 03/22/11 02:21 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I cap my own. easy, cheap, fast, and works....
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Re: Kratom, how is it? [Re: P-O]
#14177838 - 03/24/11 06:58 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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tospace


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And how much would you say you pay for each dose? I'm also wondering about Kratom Resin Pies.
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Re: Kratom, how is it? [Re: tospace]
#14178484 - 03/24/11 08:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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PostiveOutlook said: I cap my own. easy, cheap, fast, and works....
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 You use the extract?
i have used extracts, but they are mild to nothing compaired to powdered leaf in capsules...
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tospace said: And how much would you say you pay for each dose? I'm also wondering about Kratom Resin Pies.
i find the resins /extracts are not as good as the leaf for some reason....
my favorite vendor is $200 for a kilo. so 7 grams (good dose) costs me $1.40
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misos
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Re: Kratom, how is it? [Re: Seanfu]
#14179644 - 03/25/11 12:11 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Seanfu said: I cant find much info on it. It is an opiate apparently, but how are the side effects?
Kratom in low doses can be act as a mild stimulant. Taken in greater doses it can be very sedating. It can be used as a very effective painkiller. Some people experience "euphoria" from it, similar to opiates. I personally, don't like the come down. It does feel similar to opiates for me, but, that feeling only lasts for a couple hours, then the comedown comes. The next day blows too.
If I absolutely have to use it for pain, I will take about 3 grams, and that seems to work.
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tospace


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Re: Kratom, how is it? [Re: misos]
#14183139 - 03/25/11 06:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks for the info PostiveOutlook. Now that ware talking about buying in bulk its seems like it might actually be worth it. Still, its a little expensive to be doing every day, like another weed habit almost.
I found out my favorite vendor has KRATOM - Mytragyna Speciosa for 165$ a kilo. Gonna try some soon, and get a scale plus pill caper like you got.
I have a feeling I might need like 15-30 grams because previous opiates I took never did much,including a kratom sample, And of coarse I'll get some weed.
I think I had like 5 grams of Maeng Da (Pimp Kratom) (Powdered). Did it all in one day but not all at same time so maybe thats why it wasn't so strong.
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Edited by tospace (03/25/11 06:48 PM)
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