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Solid Evidence of ESP
    #14159826 - 03/21/11 03:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

While I cannot reveal the contents, Ice and I exchanged PMs just now with almost the exact same message less than 1 second apart about something we had never previously discussed in private.

Prior to this, our last PM was over 24 hours ago and not related.

Debunk this, bitches! :razz:


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Re: Solid Evidence of ESP [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14159845 - 03/21/11 03:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It surprised me that you did not mentioned the scientific study on chronesthesia.


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Re: Solid Evidence of ESP [Re: DungeonMaster]
    #14159857 - 03/21/11 03:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Just in case here it is.

Mental Time Travel
© Lars Nyberg, et al. ©2010 PNAS.
Researchers have found evidence for “chronesthesia,” which is the brain’s ability to be aware of the past and future, and to mentally travel in subjective time. They found that activity in different brain regions is related to chronesthetic states when a person thinks about the same content during the past, present, or future.
The ability to remember the past and imagine the future can significantly affect a person's decisions in life. Scientists refer to the brain's ability to think about the past, present, and future as "chronesthesia," or mental time travel, although little is known about which parts of the brain are responsible for these conscious experiences. In a new study, researchers have used functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) to investigate the neural correlates of mental time travel and better understand the nature of the mental time in which the metaphorical "travel" occurs.

The researchers, Lars Nyberg from Umea University in Umea, Sweden; Reza Habib from Southern Illinois University in Carbondale, Illinois; and Alice S. N. Kim, Brian Levine, and Endel Tulving from the University of Toronto in Toronto, Ontario, have published their results in a recent issue of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

"Mental time travel consists of two independent sets of processes: (1) those that determine the contents of any act of such 'travel': what happens, who are the 'actors,' where does the action occur; it is similar to the contents of watching a movie - everything that you see on the screen; and (2) those that determine the subjective moment of time in which the action takes place - past, present, or future," Tulving told PhysOrg.com.

"In cognitive neuroscience, we know quite a bit (relatively speaking) about perceived, remembered, known, and imagined space," he said. "We know essentially nothing about perceived, remembered, known, and imagined time. When you remember something that you did last night, you are consciously aware not only that the event happened and that you were 'there,' as an observer or participant ('episodic memory'), but also that it happened yesterday, that is, at a time that is no more. The question we are asking is, how do you know that it happened at a time other than 'now'?"

In their study, the researchers asked several well-trained subjects to repeatedly think about taking a short walk in a familiar environment in either the imagined past, the real past, the present, or the imagined future. By keeping the content the same and changing only the mental time in which it occurs, the researchers could identify which areas of the brain are correlated with thinking about the same event at different times.

The results showed that certain regions in the left lateral parietal cortex, left frontal cortex, and cerebellum, as well as the thalamus, were activated differently when the subjects thought about the past and future compared with the present. Notably, brain activity was very similar for thinking about all of the non-present times (the imagined past, real past, and imagined future).

Because mental time is a product of the human brain and differs from the external time that is measured by clocks and calendars, scientists also call this time "subjective time." Chronesthesia, by definition, is a form of consciousness that allows people to think about this subjective time and to mentally travel in it.

Some previous research has questioned whether the concept of subjective time is actually necessary for understanding similarities in brain activity during past and future thinking compared with thinking about the present. A few past studies have suggested that the brain's ability for scene construction, and not subjective time, can account for the ability to think about past and future events. However, since scene construction was held constant in this study, the new results suggest that the brain's ability to conceive of a subjective time is in fact necessary to explain how we think about the past and future.

"Until now, the processes that determine contents and the processes that determine time have not been separated in functional neuroimaging studies of chronesthesia; especially, there have been no studies in which brain regions involved in time alone, rather than time together with action, have been identified," Tulving said. "The concept of 'chronesthesia' is essentially brand new. (You find a few entries on it in Google, but not on Web of Science.) Therefore, I would say, the most important result of our study is the novel finding that there seem to exist brain regions that are more active in the (imagined) past and the (imagined) future than they are in the (imagined) present. That is, we found some evidence for chronesthesia. Before we undertook this study it was entirely possible to imagine that we find nothing!"

He added that, at this stage of the game, it is too early to talk about potential implications or applications of understanding how the brain thinks about the past, present, and future.

"Our study, we hope, is the first swallow of the spring, and others will follow," he said. "Our findings, as I alluded to above, are promising, but they have to be replicated, checked for validity and reliability, and, above all, extended to other conditions and situations, before we can start thinking about their implications and applications (of which it is easy to think of many)."

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/220249-Scientists-Find-Evidence-for-Chronesthesia-or-Mental-Time-Travel


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Re: Solid Evidence of ESP [Re: DungeonMaster]
    #14159868 - 03/21/11 03:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Cool! Seems pretty damn conclusive to me. :yesnod:


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Re: Solid Evidence of ESP [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14159925 - 03/21/11 03:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

From a quantum perspective anything is possible.


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Re: Solid Evidence of ESP [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14159950 - 03/21/11 03:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
While I cannot reveal the contents, Ice and I exchanged PMs just now with almost the exact same message less than 1 second apart about something we had never previously discussed in private.

Prior to this, our last PM was over 24 hours ago and not related.

Debunk this, bitches! :razz:




Oh we had a nice chat. And we laughed and laughed. What a funny discussion we had.  I'll bet some of you are psychic enough to guess what and or who it was about.


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Re: Solid Evidence of ESP [Re: Icelander]
    #14159980 - 03/21/11 03:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Diploid's not here right now.


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Re: Solid Evidence of ESP [Re: Icelander]
    #14159983 - 03/21/11 03:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Death anxiety FTW?

:psychsplit:

$3.95 a minute bitches.


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Re: Solid Evidence of ESP [Re: Cups]
    #14160006 - 03/21/11 03:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Not even close. :sorry:


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Re: Solid Evidence of ESP [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14160024 - 03/21/11 03:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Well not our death anxiety at least.:lol:


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Re: Solid Evidence of ESP [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14160066 - 03/21/11 04:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

was it something about gay marriage?


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Re: Solid Evidence of ESP [Re: quinn]
    #14160116 - 03/21/11 04:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Well, when bitches turn their backs on you (and not in a good way), then where else do you turn?


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Re: Solid Evidence of ESP [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14160160 - 03/21/11 04:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

well it usually goes south korea or thailand or something :shrug:

...but damn i knew i was psychic


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Re: Solid Evidence of ESP [Re: quinn]
    #14160189 - 03/21/11 04:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Asian Sex Tour, FTW!


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Re: Solid Evidence of ESP [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14160206 - 03/21/11 04:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:yesnod:

and just remember u are NOT like all the other fat, ugly middle aged western men walking around. you arent just here for sex but to find a deep, meaningful, intimate connection with a girl who you care deeply about and will treat well and who can barely speak a word of english.


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Re: Solid Evidence of ESP [Re: quinn]
    #14160401 - 03/21/11 05:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

So true! So true!


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Re: Solid Evidence of ESP [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14160507 - 03/21/11 05:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

sucker.


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Re: Solid Evidence of ESP [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14160869 - 03/21/11 07:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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While I cannot reveal the contents, Ice and I exchanged PMs just now with almost the exact same message less than 1 second apart about something we had never previously discussed in private.

Prior to this, our last PM was over 24 hours ago and not related.

Debunk this, bitches! :razz:



The only alternative explanation is that you and Icelander are the same person.

I've always suspected it.


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Re: Solid Evidence of ESP [Re: NetDiver]
    #14161107 - 03/21/11 07:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

He's one of my sub personalities.  :scumbagsteve:


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Re: Solid Evidence of ESP [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14161574 - 03/21/11 09:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

All puppets and visitors too. :wink:


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