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Re: We all just want attention! [Re: Grapefruit]
    #14153075 - 03/20/11 10:31 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Oh I agree.  However I might never have done so had I not had some low grade depression to deal with.  Depression imo is for most the only state that will allow one to look into the idea of death realistically. How interesting.


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Re: We all just want attention! [Re: Icelander]
    #14153096 - 03/20/11 10:39 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah that's very true, although ironically for a long time I'm pretty sure I looked at death as a means to get away from death anxiety! That's the hope structure, "if I look into death x will happen". I think maybe a fundamental understanding of no self is really a prerequisite to properly looking at death. Otherwise it is seen as something that happens to just ego and there is no "body knowing".

Suffering is what brings about change in life and really in many ways it's a good thing. A natural side effect of honesty and realism where there hasn't been before.


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Re: We all just want attention! [Re: Grapefruit]
    #14153188 - 03/20/11 11:05 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Suffering is what brings about change in life and really in many ways it's a good thing. A natural side effect of honesty and realism where there hasn't been before.




very true.  It's like how natural selection and evolution wouldn't work without death.  Suffering is the fire that produces transformation.

@ poid: yeah we all want attention, it's because the attention is essentially what you are, so when we receive it from others it's just looking at yourself in a way.


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Re: We all just want attention! [Re: Grapefruit]
    #14155270 - 03/20/11 06:22 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I think maybe a fundamental understanding of no self is really a prerequisite to properly looking at death. Otherwise it is seen as something that happens to just ego and there is no "body knowing".





Not really following here grapefruit.  Can you elaborate?


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Re: We all just want attention! [Re: Cups]
    #14158057 - 03/21/11 06:02 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I actually find it hard to describe what I mean and it comes off the back of my own experiences. Perhaps I'm phrasing it wrong I don't know. Something like there is a difference between your character knowing it's going to die and gaining an understanding of how life & death operates in the universe. The physical laws of no self if you like. Both are useful although the first requires a lot more maintenance (always over your shoulder) which is easier to uphold in lue of the second.


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