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    #14157253 - 03/21/11 12:14 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I have been taking this stuff sporadically for helping with sleep.  Love how it makes you dream, there especially easy to remember when mixing with vitamin b.

Was wondering how much other people like to take.  The bottles so cheap that I tried 10mg a few times.  I know it can actually have a reverse effect when taking to much but 10mg really helped me sleep.  I normally take 3-8mg 4-5 times a week.  Trying not to build a tolerance and dependence.  Man needa remember to take it earlier so I wont stay up till 7am.


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Re: melatonin [Re: tospace]
    #14157259 - 03/21/11 12:15 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

10 is alright. Don't mix 10 with 25mg doxylamine succinate unless you really want to sleep.


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Re: melatonin [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #14157289 - 03/21/11 12:22 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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10 is alright. Don't mix 10 with 25mg doxylamine succinate unless you really want to sleep.



lol ok.  Yeah I like taking 8-10 and then play online games till I start dieing allot.


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Re: melatonin [Re: tospace]
    #14157477 - 03/21/11 01:15 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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tospace said:
I have been taking this stuff sporadically for helping with sleep.  Love how it makes you dream, there especially easy to remember when mixing with vitamin b.

Was wondering how much other people like to take.  The bottles so cheap that I tried 10mg a few times.  I know it can actually have a reverse effect when taking to much but 10mg really helped me sleep.  I normally take 3-8mg 4-5 times a week.  Trying not to build a tolerance and dependence.  Man needa remember to take it earlier so I wont stay up till 7am.






Yea taking too much can keep you up...If 10mg is working for you then :thumbup:, what ever works for you.


I usually only take 1mg to 3mg, as much as 6mg at the most. But I honestly don't notice much of a difference between 1mg and 6mg, other than the dreams. Melatonin has a dramatic effect upon my dreams, cranks up the vividness a few notches and for some reason dream recall is a bit easier.



I really don't suggest using melatonin as a sleep aid all the time though. Use it for resetting sleep habits/patterns and that's about it. As melatonin plays a crucial role in your circadian rhythm, that's not something you want to toy with. Look into valerian root if you want a nightly sleep aid or something to take often. I find that valerian also has quite an effect upon my dreams....


If you're looking for something a bit more powerful, diphenhydramine and doxylamine succinate. 100mg of DPH or 50mg of Doxylamine and good luck staying awake :smirk:.





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Re: melatonin [Re: tospace]
    #14158994 - 03/21/11 12:11 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I take 3mg or 6mg. I only really use it when I have to get my "sleep schedule" back on track. I'll take it for about a week and stop until my circadian rhythm gets out of whack again.



I just took some last night for the first time in about a year, actually. Holy shit.... I forgot about the kind of dreams melatonin induces. I was in some bar and the guy who used to play the green/white Power Ranger was buying drinks for me.:freshwtf:


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Re: melatonin [Re: Remix]
    #14159502 - 03/21/11 02:13 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I have three mg pills but I cut them in half when I want to take them.

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Re: melatonin [Re: bryguy27007]
    #14159573 - 03/21/11 02:31 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Melatonin is one of those things I've wanted to try taking, but I've never actually taken the initiative to actually try it.

What are some of the benefits of taking it?

I know I could look it up, but personal experience is better :crazy2:


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Re: melatonin [Re: x Ju x]
    #14159586 - 03/21/11 02:34 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Awesome, intense, very detailed dreams. :thumbup:


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Re: melatonin [Re: openmind]
    #14160271 - 03/21/11 04:44 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Awesome, intense, very detailed dreams. :thumbup:



This.  Plus you might feel more refreshed when you get up.  My friend says it makes him feel like he got more sleep than he really did.

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I really don't suggest using melatonin as a sleep aid all the time though. Use it for resetting sleep habits/patterns and that's about it. As melatonin plays a crucial role in your circadian rhythm, that's not something you want to toy with. Look into valerian root if you want a nightly sleep aid or something to take often. I find that valerian also has quite an effect upon my dreams....



Yeah, I don't want to make it to ware I can't sleep without taking it.  I wonder if the same thing happens with weed because its a great sleep aid, and supports melatonin.  I just need to start smoking again I think.

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If you're looking for something a bit more powerful, diphenhydramine and doxylamine succinate. 100mg of DPH or 50mg of Doxylamine and good luck staying awake :smirk:.



Really?  I noticed it helped me sleep allot, and made me talk to people before a slept.  That dose was way to high tho.  Won't ever think about using it alone again, in doses like that0.


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Re: melatonin [Re: tospace]
    #14161023 - 03/21/11 07:29 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I took Melatonin nightly for a a few years and stopped.  I honeslty don't know what/if it damaged me because I've heard some scary shit about its long-term side effects.  I can't sleep for shit and I don't really know what else works for me.  I have tried valerian and it works OK.  I never take more than 3mg of Melatonin ever and it reliably knocks me out.

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Re: melatonin [Re: abltsandwich]
    #14161080 - 03/21/11 07:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I need to start taking melatonin again. My sleep schedule has gotten so fucked up. I slept from 12-7 yesterday, woke up and ended up staying awake the whole night, and not going to sleep until 10 am this morning. Then proceeded to sleep until 6pm :facepalm:

Is it safe to take with dox or DPH?


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Re: melatonin [Re: Ballerium]
    #14161110 - 03/21/11 07:44 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Is it safe to take with dox or DPH?




I wouldN'T(i mean) think so, unless theres some kinda melatonin syndrome I don't know about :tongue2:


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Re: melatonin [Re: Ballerium]
    #14161114 - 03/21/11 07:44 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I need to start taking melatonin again. My sleep schedule has gotten so fucked up. I slept from 12-7 yesterday, woke up and ended up staying awake the whole night, and not going to sleep until 10 am this morning. Then proceeded to sleep until 6pm :facepalm:

Is it safe to take with dox or DPH?




im still awake from yesterday :lol:


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Re: melatonin [Re: abltsandwich]
    #14161119 - 03/21/11 07:45 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I took Melatonin nightly for a a few years and stopped.  I honeslty don't know what/if it damaged me because I've heard some scary shit about its long-term side effects.  I can't sleep for shit and I don't really know what else works for me.  I have tried valerian and it works OK.  I never take more than 3mg of Melatonin ever and it reliably knocks me out.




From what I've heard side effects usually start to accumulate in people who use it nightly for more than a few months (2-3). What most bottles I've bought recommend is that one should not use it for more than a week straight without taking at least a few days to a week off afterwards. I've broken this cycle a few times and taken it for a couple weeks straight and didn't really notice any side effects (although near the end I did feel as though I had to up my dosage to 6mg to get similar effects).

That being said, anything longer than the recommended time-frame and I can imagine your body starts to produce melatonin with a lesser level of efficiency than it previously did (in the same way that when you start using any drug, the more often you use it, the more your body stops producing its own niche-filling version of said drug).


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Re: melatonin [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
    #14161135 - 03/21/11 07:48 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I need to start taking melatonin again. My sleep schedule has gotten so fucked up. I slept from 12-7 yesterday, woke up and ended up staying awake the whole night, and not going to sleep until 10 am this morning. Then proceeded to sleep until 6pm :facepalm:

Is it safe to take with dox or DPH?




im still awake from yesterday :lol:




Damn, HOW? I smoked last night + this morning when the sun came up and I still crashed around 10. I would be a zombie right now if I hadn't slept.


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Re: melatonin [Re: Ballerium]
    #14161160 - 03/21/11 07:51 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I need to start taking melatonin again. My sleep schedule has gotten so fucked up. I slept from 12-7 yesterday, woke up and ended up staying awake the whole night, and not going to sleep until 10 am this morning. Then proceeded to sleep until 6pm :facepalm:

Is it safe to take with dox or DPH?




im still awake from yesterday :lol:




Damn, HOW? I smoked last night + this morning when the sun came up and I still crashed around 10. I would be a zombie right now if I hadn't slept.




monster energy drink. that shit is delicious, and i think im going to be awake for a couple more hours. i have to write some lab reports. :sad:

at least im not tired. (and luckily im not jittery either!)


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Re: melatonin [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
    #14161173 - 03/21/11 07:54 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Mmmm I love Monster. Especially the pineapple flavored one. Tastes like golden drops of sunshine :drooling:

But my favorite energy drink is NOS. That shit is so delicious. When do you get out of school?


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Re: melatonin [Re: Ballerium]
    #14161197 - 03/21/11 08:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

for the semester? i think around may 13th.

if you mean today, i finished my last class at 6:45

if you mean tomorrow, depends how long my chem lab takes me to finish. probably ~4:30




...what color can is the pineapple monster? ive never had it. i only buy the green monster and the 'mean bean' coffee monster. :drooling:


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Re: melatonin [Re: Remix]
    #14161208 - 03/21/11 08:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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If you're looking for something a bit more powerful, diphenhydramine and doxylamine succinate. 100mg of DPH or 50mg of Doxylamine and good luck staying awake :smirk:.




Really?  I noticed it helped me sleep allot, and made me talk to people before a slept.  That dose was way to high tho.  Won't ever think about using it alone again, in doses like that0.





Are you saying you experienced deliriant effects from that low of a dose? I mean 100mg of DPH is a tad higher than "recommended" dosage but shouldn't be inducing delirium/hallucinations at that low of a dose.








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That being said, anything longer than the recommended time-frame and I can imagine your body starts to produce melatonin with a lesser level of efficiency than it previously did (in the same way that when you start using any drug, the more often you use it, the more your body stops producing its own niche-filling version of said drug).





^This^ :thumbup:






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Re: melatonin [Re: openmind]
    #14161222 - 03/21/11 08:07 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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If you're looking for something a bit more powerful, diphenhydramine and doxylamine succinate. 100mg of DPH or 50mg of Doxylamine and good luck staying awake :smirk:.




Really?  I noticed it helped me sleep allot, and made me talk to people before a slept.  That dose was way to high tho.  Won't ever think about using it alone again, in doses like that0.





Are you saying you experienced deliriant effects from that low of a dose? I mean 100mg of DPH is a tad higher than "recommended" dosage but shouldn't be inducing delirium/hallucinations at that low of a dose.





i actually get the delirient effects (threshold though, not talking to people intensity) when i take 100mg. i can only take 3 benadryl if i REALLY want to sleep because if i take 4 then i start to see faint outlines of faces when i close my eyes to sleep ,and i start noticing that really uncomfortable body feeling that comes with high doses of diphenhydramine.


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