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Cakk


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Re: Legalize medical marijuana? [Re: Anthony917]
#14156493 - 03/20/11 09:50 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Legalizing pot would be horrible for the us economy it wouldn't stimulate it help cancer patients and help people with pain...
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JacksonMetaller
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Also Anthony, i don't know of any specific tests done on humans with specific intentions to reduce tumor growth with THC. But i do recall coming across a lot of studies that supported the idea by realizing a lack of cancer in heavy weed smokers even with the carcinogenic materials presented and also a decrease in cancer for those who smoke weed and cigarettes as opposed to cigarettes alone. so, it is strongly supported that the tests done on the rats also applies to humans.
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Re: Legalize medical marijuana? [Re: Cakk]
#14156527 - 03/20/11 09:55 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Cakk said: Legalizing pot would be horrible for the us economy it wouldn't stimulate it help cancer patients and help people with pain...
are you serious? i read somewhere it would actually make billions of dollars FOR the US. how the hell would it impact it negatively? the government would thrive of sin taxes, would free up the amount of recreational users in jail, and would stop spending money on police force and necessary things for busting drug trade
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Re: Legalize medical marijuana? [Re: Anthony917]
#14156529 - 03/20/11 09:56 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Cakk


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Cakk said: Legalizing pot would be horrible for the us economy it wouldn't stimulate it help cancer patients and help people with pain...
are you serious? i read somewhere it would actually make billions of dollars FOR the US. how the hell would it impact it negatively? the government would thrive of sin taxes, would free up the amount of recreational users in jail, and would stop spending money on police force and necessary things for busting drug trade
I'm being very sarcastic. Legalizing pot would be the best thing for USA
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Re: Legalize medical marijuana? [Re: Eminence]
#14156561 - 03/20/11 09:59 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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paranoia, possibly... but in all out honesty i spent 3 years smoking an ounce a day to the head... and never tripped.. and its definitely not addictive, considering I've been clean for 3 months without shakes, quivers, shakes whatever... & when people smoke around me, i dont start itching for it.
Id have to argue the "childbirth defects" and the "hear voices" too. My brother suffers from schizophrenia, and the only time he DOESN'T hear voices, is when he's high... & My cousin, a friend of mine, and My best friends wife have all smoked the whole time they were pregnant... and I can tell you that their babies are the smartest I've ever seen... My 2 year old niece can say less then my 1 year old god son. My cousins baby... started walking when she was 6 months old, and constructed her first sentence at 9 months. and my other friends daughter is only 4 months old and she is already far more advanced then most babies
& thanks, haha. my point exactly -- i dont do it, so i wouldn't know, but its WAY more dangerous then Herb.
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Re: Legalize medical marijuana? [Re: bubblesx0420]
#14156659 - 03/20/11 10:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Idk maybe it's not the same with everyone. But it's been shown that it can negatively react with people who have schizophrenia. Paranoia is one of the most known side effects from cannabis, doesn't mean it'll happen to everyone of course, but it does in fact cause it in some people.
But I've seen birth defects from smoking while pregnant. It's not necessarily the weed..but it's the lack of oxygen to the baby from smoking it.
It was some time ago so Idk how accurate it was exactly.
And about hearing voices..I've personally never heard of that before, but I know from personal experience that you get way more high from eating a bunch of weed than you can from smoking a bunch. I hit a peek when I smoke, where I just get more tired, but not really more high.
But if I eat a lot, I can and have hallucinated. Call me a liar, but I'm sure there are other people on the site that would vouch for me.
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Re: Legalize medical marijuana? [Re: Eminence]
#14156715 - 03/20/11 10:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Another question to ponder: if/when marijuana is legalized in the United States, how long will it be until all natural substances are legalized?
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Re: Legalize medical marijuana? [Re: Cynosure]
#14156856 - 03/20/11 10:40 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Cynosure said: Another question to ponder: if/when marijuana is legalized in the United States, how long will it be until all natural substances are legalized?
IMO it really depends on the stability of the country.
The better things are the more resistant to changing things people will be. Hence, the legalization process will take longer.
The worse things are the more people will begin to accept the idea that new cultural paradigms be implemented, hereby making the acceptance (and "legalization") of these substances happen much more rapidly.
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Re: Legalize medical marijuana? [Re: Remix]
#14156905 - 03/20/11 10:48 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Test studies show that Cannabis, Prevents Cancer.
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Anthony917
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Anthony917 said: If coke was legal I wouldn't go out and do coke...
maybe you wouldn't, maybe none of us would... but what about the next generation who grows up with less of a coke scare than we do? we've already proven that more people think alcohol and tobacco is safer than most drugs just because of their legality... now that being said i completely agree that most drugs should be legal, including coke, not because i think they're safe... but because honestly i'd rather see a few people lose their girlfriends and suffer a heart attack or overdose than the mass amount of violence that goes on in the underground trade. some of the pictures i've seen of the mexican cartels are just disturbing. I couldn't even visit with my family in Colombia for 15 years of my life because it wasn't safe just to fly over there. plus nobody's free will should be limited by the government and economically we waste so much money arresting people for ripping bongs with their friends on a friday night. i think free choice to use and the RIGHT education on drugs is what we need to help people understand moderation and safe dosing and usage of all substances.
anyways... done ranting... as for the subject of this... NO! legalize it for recreational purposes those who think they hurt a tendon in their pinky can use all the substances they want to cure that
I agree that the new generation wouldn't have all the negative stigma towards hard drugs like we do, but that's where it starts. You teach the new generation FACTS about the drugs and let them draw their own conclusion. All is legal, but what's legal isn't safe. This is a well known fact. I'm sure people can see the campaigns against tobacco and anyone who knows ANYTHING about tobacco knows how harmful it is. Still, people smoke, and still, people would do coke, but they wouldn't have to go through illegal channels to obtain it.
Honestly, how much crime could be eliminated in our society if weed was legal? THOUSANDS of "criminals" would be out of business. Right there we just erased every crime involving the possession/sale of marijuana, and the rest could follow. How many drugs are carted across the mexican border every day?? Legalizing all drugs would STOP the cartels in their tracks. There would be NO underground market...I almost can't believe these drugs aren't all legal.
What's even more ironic is that most drugs ARE legal, just under the proper medical circumstances. Shit, oxycontin is prescribed by doctors all the time and that's basically the same thing as heroin, but since it's from a doctor it's "ok". The pharm. companies sell drugs that are EXTREMELY illegal outside of the medical realm...
fucked up place we live in
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Re: Legalize medical marijuana? [Re: Anthony917]
#14157381 - 03/21/11 12:48 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Anthony917 said:
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JacksonMetaller said:
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Anthony917 said: If coke was legal I wouldn't go out and do coke...
maybe you wouldn't, maybe none of us would... but what about the next generation who grows up with less of a coke scare than we do? we've already proven that more people think alcohol and tobacco is safer than most drugs just because of their legality... now that being said i completely agree that most drugs should be legal, including coke, not because i think they're safe... but because honestly i'd rather see a few people lose their girlfriends and suffer a heart attack or overdose than the mass amount of violence that goes on in the underground trade. some of the pictures i've seen of the mexican cartels are just disturbing. I couldn't even visit with my family in Colombia for 15 years of my life because it wasn't safe just to fly over there. plus nobody's free will should be limited by the government and economically we waste so much money arresting people for ripping bongs with their friends on a friday night. i think free choice to use and the RIGHT education on drugs is what we need to help people understand moderation and safe dosing and usage of all substances.
anyways... done ranting... as for the subject of this... NO! legalize it for recreational purposes those who think they hurt a tendon in their pinky can use all the substances they want to cure that
I agree that the new generation wouldn't have all the negative stigma towards hard drugs like we do, but that's where it starts. You teach the new generation FACTS about the drugs and let them draw their own conclusion. All is legal, but what's legal isn't safe. This is a well known fact. I'm sure people can see the campaigns against tobacco and anyone who knows ANYTHING about tobacco knows how harmful it is. Still, people smoke, and still, people would do coke, but they wouldn't have to go through illegal channels to obtain it.
Honestly, how much crime could be eliminated in our society if weed was legal? THOUSANDS of "criminals" would be out of business. Right there we just erased every crime involving the possession/sale of marijuana, and the rest could follow. How many drugs are carted across the mexican border every day?? Legalizing all drugs would STOP the cartels in their tracks. There would be NO underground market...I almost can't believe these drugs aren't all legal.
What's even more ironic is that most drugs ARE legal, just under the proper medical circumstances. Shit, oxycontin is prescribed by doctors all the time and that's basically the same thing as heroin, but since it's from a doctor it's "ok". The pharm. companies sell drugs that are EXTREMELY illegal outside of the medical realm...
fucked up place we live in
He can't read my post because he ignored me, but my trick worked. His opinions finally match mine, thank god. One more saved to the cause. At least for the most important one.
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JacksonMetaller
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Re: Legalize medical marijuana? [Re: Cynosure]
#14160777 - 03/21/11 06:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Cynosure said: Another question to ponder: if/when marijuana is legalized in the United States, how long will it be until all natural substances are legalized?
hopefully soon... i mean even if they're not all safe so what. They'd be much safer under government regulation then cut with random shit on the street and people are going to do them anyways. I hear typical coke is only 30% authentic. thats fucking nasty.
One thing that i hope happens with the legalization of any drugs however, is i hope the government doesn't allow companies to keep adding the shit they add in tobacco and all that. additives need to be outlawed
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NetDiver
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Keep marijuana illegal. I don't want that shit around my kids.
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Re: Legalize medical marijuana? [Re: NetDiver]
#14160933 - 03/21/11 07:14 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Samurai Drifter said: Keep marijuana illegal. I don't want that shit around my kids.
Why not?
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Re: Legalize medical marijuana? [Re: muistrue]
#14161093 - 03/21/11 07:40 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Because it's the devil's weed.
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Remix
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Re: Legalize medical marijuana? [Re: NetDiver]
#14161139 - 03/21/11 07:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Samurai Drifter said: Because it's the devil's weed.

dey see me trollin, they hatin... Moderatin' 'n' tryna catch me postin' dirtay
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Re: Legalize medical marijuana? [Re: Remix]
#14161145 - 03/21/11 07:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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No, trolling should be funny he's just being a dumbshit.
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Re: Legalize medical marijuana? [Re: muistrue]
#14161157 - 03/21/11 07:51 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah, I'm being a dumbshit... totally unlike the person who started a poll about weed legalization on the shroomery.
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Remix
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Re: Legalize medical marijuana? [Re: NetDiver]
#14161387 - 03/21/11 08:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Any poll as redundant as this one deserves a trolling or two to keep everything .
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