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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14155912 - 03/20/11 08:22 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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BothHands said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
how old do you think I was in middle school, 28?




I didn't say you were 28, I said you were a badass.  This kid isn't.  And he can't just become one because he's getting beaten up.





everyone is a badass of there's a car nearby... let me introduce you to The Paintenna®





these little fellas are found everywhere and are typically only finger
tight, they put a bully in a world of hurt and if wielded properly can
rapidly draw blood, I've never once found anyone that enjoys a visit from
a steel whip


now if that's not handy, these typically are widely available to every
school kid, those pokey, stabby devices the schools dont consider to be
weapons at all... even though they may not draw blook the trauma caused by
getting poked really hard in any muscle is plenty to slow most people down



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I have the desire not to get my ass kicked, but that doesn't mean I could beat up a football player.




well certainly not with that attitude you wont, my sister broke the face
of a former MP that she was married to, her 5'2 ass picked up a radio and
smashed his cheek with it... he's 6'7, they divorced shortly after that





I prefer:



people my age at campus tease me once in awhile when I am in shorts with the fancy cane... but damn those pack a punch. Longer than a bat and faster. If I need to smash a car, a bat is much better, but speed is everything versus another person.


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14155913 - 03/20/11 08:22 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

No, I didn't start.  He was squeezing my ass, and I told him I'd stab him with the pen if he did it again.  He did it again.  I barely even drew blood, just one small drop.

And the rest has already been explained.  I guess that's what happens when you use a public defender?  Either way, that's my experience.  I have the charges to prove that a pen is considered a deadly weapon, and that it's considered excessive force.

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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: BothHands]
    #14155926 - 03/20/11 08:24 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Just to clarify, I believe this happened in Australia. I don't know how the laws there work, it might make a difference to how this turns out or it might not.

I'm surprised by how many people here say they would turn their own kids in to the cops! Does that qualify as a citizens arrest? :lol:


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: BothHands]
    #14155928 - 03/20/11 08:25 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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BothHands said:
No, I didn't start.  He was squeezing my ass, and I told him I'd stab him with the pen if he did it again.  He did it again.  I barely even drew blood, just one small drop.

And the rest has already been explained.  I guess that's what happens when you use a public defender?  Either way, that's my experience.  I have the charges to prove that a pen is considered a deadly weapon, and that it's considered excessive force.





that makes you the aggressor, ass squeezing certainly isnt cause for
stabbing, you had the chance to walk away after you made the threat and
inform someone which is why it was viewed as excessive force

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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14155942 - 03/20/11 08:26 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I couldn't just walk away.  He was chasing me and grabbing my arm. 

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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14155945 - 03/20/11 08:27 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Shroomerette said:
Just to clarify, I believe this happened in Australia. I don't know how the laws there work, it might make a difference to how this turns out or it might not.






if they're like canada and england, self defense is forbidden, you're
supposed to borrow your attackers cell phone,call the police  and ask
them to stick around to be arrested for their crimes


the polite society rules

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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14155961 - 03/20/11 08:29 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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Shroomerette said:
Just to clarify, I believe this happened in Australia. I don't know how the laws there work, it might make a difference to how this turns out or it might not.






if they're like canada and england, self defense is forbidden, you're
supposed to borrow your attackers cell phone,call the police  and ask
them to stick around to be arrested for their crimes


the polite society rules




It is fuckin retarded :facepalm:




Luckily anyone with a spine around here wont call the cops over something like a fight.

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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14155972 - 03/20/11 08:31 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Damn.. Where's mr. myagi when you need him??


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: BothHands]
    #14155974 - 03/20/11 08:31 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I couldn't just walk away.  He was chasing me and grabbing me.





chasing means you were capable of running... honestly in the same situation
I'd have done the same as you but I'd have been all over my public defender
to move for a dismissal on self defense, I'm assuming it was juvie courts and
there was no jury, that's one that makes no sense to me, it's failure in due
process over a criminal charge

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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14155999 - 03/20/11 08:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

He was grabbing my arm though, so I couldn't get away.  But yeah, there was no jury.  All in all, everything took like 30 seconds.  There was no telling my side of the story to the judge.  There was no one explaining for me either.  I got a plea deal though, so it was expunged.  But when you apply for citizenship, even expunged charges matter.

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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: BothHands]
    #14156038 - 03/20/11 08:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

the whole juvie court thing is retarded, they claim it as family court to
maintain it as a family matter, problem is it's just a kangaroo court that
denies people the rights granted under the constitution as I recall, being
grounded is a family sentence, being jailed is criminal

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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14156053 - 03/20/11 08:45 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Well I only spent 2 days and 2 nights in the detention center.  Not like I sat in there for a month or something.  But yeah, at that point it's definitely not a family matter.  And since I still have a record, it's definitely a criminal matter.

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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: BothHands]
    #14156180 - 03/20/11 09:02 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I wish you luck on obtaining citizenship

if it's not digging too deep, where are you coming from

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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14156207 - 03/20/11 09:07 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks.  It cost a whole lot of money, so I won't be able to reapply for a few years if it goes wrong.  I hope it goes well.

I came here from Cape Town, South Africa.  Moved here when I was 8.  Been here 14 years.

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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: BothHands]
    #14156240 - 03/20/11 09:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I was curious because we have a lot of refugees from central europe working
on citizenship, several were neighbors before I moved out here

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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14156338 - 03/20/11 09:25 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, I'd definitely consider myself a refugee from South Africa.  We were here illegally for at least a year while my dad got paid under the table.  Eventually the company sponsored him for a work visa or some shit.  Then we were lucky enough to win the green card lottery. 

South Africa's really gotten out of hand.  You don't ask someone if they've ever been robbed, you ask them how many times they've been robbed.  My uncle was actually a car salesman.  He took this guy out for a test drive, and the guy shot him in the side of the head, pushed him out the car, and drove off.  It's really gone to shit.

I mean I'm glad the blacks got their equal rights, and I definitely don't condone segrigation, but they integrated the people all wrong.  They made a law that forced all businesses, even a lemonade stand in front of your house, to hire at least some very high percentage of black people.  But none of them had been educated.  The law stated that the businesses were responsible for teaching them.

So basically everything went out of business, corruption ran rampant, and the country is dying.

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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14156508 - 03/20/11 09:53 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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family issues need to be dealt with as a family




This isn't a family issue when your beating someone in public, that's a public issue.  Would it be different if those kids has bashed the kids nose into his brain and killed him?  At that point can you call the cops on a family member?  This kid they beat is gonna have issues (if he didn't already) for years after being assaulted and having his jaw broke.





beating someone in public makes it a public issue... lol


so this is why we have the government playing daddy in every aspect of our
lives, need to shit, you need the government approved, quilted lint free
potty papers because people stopped trying to resolve problems amongst
themselves and decided to one up each other. back when I was in school I
was picked on all the time, and of course when I fought back we both got
sent to the office for suspension, when my mother was called and the
situation was explained she told them to fuck off, they were not
suspending me for defending myself. guess what, they didnt, I got sent
back to class and I didnt develop any issues... about 4 years ago my
sister went through the same thing with her son, nothing happened to him
either after contacting a lawyer that happened to represent the school



the kids that picked on me, I suffered a broken nose once, one of them had
2 broken ribs and a concussion, a different kid got pinned between the bus
seats and stomped until someone managed to pull me off, an 8th grader got
pinned in the doorway with me kicking the fuck out of him until they
spotted me and got someone around to get me off him, I was in 6th back then

matt pitts was slammed on his head, robert woods was the kid on the bus,
he also met a steel post a few days later when he came back for more,
maria houdak stabbed me in the back with a pencil while I was at my desk,
I cleared her desk and made her eyes and the big ol' tater nose of hers
swell up even more... I got in trouble for that one until my mom dug the
pencil lead out of my back... wayne bagget jumped me in my back yard, my
brother and 2 other people got me off him and he grabbed a saw to use as a
weapon, I almost killed his ass on that, alan brock almost lost a finger
when he started shit with me.... I got picked on a lot

back then people dealt with shit like people, if your kid sent my kid home
with a busted jaw the parents handled it, now we're a planet of global cry
babies that have to have the courts running our lives instead of teaching
our kids to take up for themselves and defending our kids when they grab
something and use it against their attackers. like my step father said, if
someone bigger than you is whipping your ass, grab a stick and wear their
heads out... that advice bit him in the ass but it was solid advice


BTW... you cant put someones nose or the bone into their brain and kill
them, trust me, I've tried




:facepalm:

So let me get this straight. Your whole point is that the kid should magically get that instinctive drive to defend himself when he obviously does not have the will to even put up a good fight and that it should simply be a family matter. 9 out of 10 times the 17 year old young adult will beat a 13 year old boy senseless, there is no questioning that, not everyone is a prisoner#1 :smirk:

I've got anger problems when it comes to things like people getting bullied and beat up mostly because my bestfriend was always picked on and I had to take care of it for him. Some kids are just chicken shits even if they don't want to get beat up.

I don't think I could handle myself if my child came home with a broken jaw. I would be so angry, no... I would be furious. I honestly think that would be the line for me to go out and kill someone :shrug:

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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: BothHands]
    #14156674 - 03/20/11 10:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I mean I'm glad the blacks got their equal rights, and I definitely don't condone segrigation, but they integrated the people all wrong.  They made a law that forced all businesses, even a lemonade stand in front of your house, to hire at least some very high percentage of black people.  But none of them had been educated.  The law stated that the businesses were responsible for teaching them.
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I was just watching something about it a few days ago, blacks are up in arms
because now this is happening with asians in S. Africa, in america it's
called affirmative action and it's institutional racism


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14156720 - 03/20/11 10:22 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Wow, I hadn't heard about that.  The system is seriously fucked to hell though.  No matter how crazy things are over here, it doesn't come anywhere near the insanity that's going on over there.  I'm so glad I made it to the states.

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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14157044 - 03/20/11 11:16 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Micawber said:
i fully agree with the dad-i mean they broke his jaw??wtf
:bouncey:




I'd have taken care of the kid's medical and punished my kids by forcing them
to be his servants for several months, nothing like making them the inferior 
of the kid they were assaulting, I certainly wouldnt have had charges brought
against my kids. if they felt that was unfair then the other option is to get
jobs and surrender the paycheck as restitution to the kid for 6mos



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