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Re: My mom has bipolar disorder and my moms aunt had schizophrenia [Re: BoldAsLove]
    #14156378 - 03/20/11 09:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I have been strongly bipolar for the past 12 years and I didn't start getting real relief till I started tripping at least a couple times a month.  The harder the trip the better and longer the relief lasts.  Weed used to do the trick but I noticed as I got older the weed did less (even great stuff) to curb depression and mania.

Yes it can be onset by lots of stress.  I began soon after my father died unexpectedly.  I would say that bipolar is not a disease and is something that is cureable or at least manageable.  You have to lower the stress in your life if its possible or work hard and suffer a while to get to a point in life of less stress.

Even if its older adults i'd recommend mushrooms for therapy but only if tripping with you or someone else they know so their is little anxiety.

BTW meds always work for a month or two then your body becomes used to them and builds tolerance to which you have to up amounts until you reach a point of nasty side effects or you are forced onto a different drug.  I take no meds anymore other than weed and mushrooms (a little acid too doesnt hurt), I get exercise, and I have plenty of work and family to keep me occupied even if I feel suicidally depressed I can still hang on well through the episode thinking about my life, family, and purpose.


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Re: My mom has bipolar disorder and my moms aunt had schizophrenia [Re: Buckeye Oysters]
    #14156849 - 03/20/11 10:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:shrug: ...Who the fuck knows...


While psychedelics may help Buckeye Oysters with their Bi-Polar Disorder, I certainly know at least one dude who I think is an undiagnosed bi-polar (impulsive, mania-depression swings, drug addiction, suicidal tedencies, etc), and when he eats psychedelics his mania just gets out of control. ... then again he usually eats like a quarter every weekend when that shit happens...

But anyways... my point is that you have to be able to tell when you're starting to disconnect from reality, or having a manic episode, and you need to have friends who can tell you when you're getting out of control, and also you need to LISTEN TO THEM when they tell you this.

If you've had a few trip already and feel fine, then you might not have anything to worry about. BUT the longer, and more frequently you use psychedelics is only going to increase the chances that some predisposition to mental illness is going to get triggered.

I'd say if you dosed reasonable amounts once or twice a year, you'll probably be fine as long as you aren't already experiencing mental illness.

Do you already experience mental illness? Depression, drug addiction (or overuse), impulsiveness, etc?


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Re: My mom has bipolar disorder and my moms aunt had schizophrenia [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14157239 - 03/21/11 12:08 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I was diagnosed bipolar type 2 back a long time ago. I'm more just bipolar now, more on the depressive side. I used to fight depression, so I was always manic. I'm under the belief my bipolar disorder is a direct result of dealing with knowledge gained about society.

I try to focus on just being positive overall now. If I were you I would not take med's and do my best to focus on natural stuff. If you are depressed, St John's Wort works well. Stabilization? I ironically found trivial amounts of psychedelic fungi daily to work as an antidepressant + stabilize my mood.

A lot of my Bipolar disorder comes from caring about the World and realizing all the problems that exist. It's hard to live in a World with so many problems, in which not many care about the problems.

If you are bipolar try to keep positive, try to not get too emotional. If you can at all manage on natural stuff do it, it's way healthier the the pharm drugs. Antidepressants cause diabetes type 2 in time, plus other nasty side effects with many of them. Antipscyhotic's are linked to increased risk in brain tumors. Depakote and other bipolar medicine is bad for your liver as well.

I don't find that mushrooms have a negative effect on bipolar disorder / depression. Meth, cocaine and ecstasy have potential risks for manic behavior. Wellbutrin in specific when I tried it for the first time triggered mania.

Meth is a little difficult because the positive is good, the crash afterwards takes skill to mentally manage. But even on the come down of hard drugs, one can train themselves to be positive, and learn from the experience.

Really if you can stay positive, you really can defeat bipolar disorder. My buddy is strictly manic and he is positive as he can be and he is fine. He has to do stuff like go walk around sometimes to think, instead of sitting down.

The plus side is, bipolar people are often extremely bright compared to individuals without the disorder. You can use this mental strength to mange your disorder without anything. Trivial things that make you happy, spreading information and love to others helps. Not focusing on negatives help, or just going over the negatives; be above them.




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Re: My mom has bipolar disorder and my moms aunt had schizophrenia [Re: iluvfungi]
    #14157260 - 03/21/11 12:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

fungi is right about the wortst.johns wort is great...and you can take quite a bit of it without problems.

....watch out for whatever meds when doing wanting to trip...don't mix them with psychs to be safe.most would say to not take them at all if you think you will have a problem,but I know of a handful of full blown scary schizophrenics and bipolar people that handle them just fine and seem much more at peace than being sober.



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Re: My mom has bipolar disorder and my moms aunt had schizophrenia *DELETED* [Re: Boheim]
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Re: My mom has bipolar disorder and my moms aunt had schizophrenia [Re: BoldAsLove]
    #14158154 - 03/21/11 06:55 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

dont fuck around trying to do level 5 trips. all that level stuff is bullshit but yeah i got a twin brother with schizophrenia and iv done alot of drugs and im fine (although iv had some close calls) so i wouldnt stress too much over it. i think mental illness is alot like cancer, your either gonna get it or you dont but yeah dont push your luck too much and you'll be alright.


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Re: My mom has bipolar disorder and my moms aunt had schizophrenia [Re: blingbling]
    #14159785 - 03/21/11 03:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

now, don't misconstrue what I'm saying. I'm not saying you're totally in the clear, I'm just saying that you're not automatically screwed.

I'm not even sure what the evidence is that bi-polar/schizophrenia are even inheritable.

Even if you're totally sane, psychedelics can push you over the edge if misused.

All I'm saying is approach with extreme caution, and as long as you aren't a fucking idiot about it, you should be okay. Be warned also that tripping may compound stress/anxiety in your normal life. If you are already slightly depressed about legit stuff, then psychedelics might throw you off balance and make it worse. Or they might help you reach peace with your situation... it's kind of a crap shoot.

Basically, be careful and know when to stop.


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Re: My mom has bipolar disorder and my moms aunt had schizophrenia [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14161857 - 03/21/11 10:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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All I'm saying is approach with extreme caution, and as long as you aren't a fucking idiot about it, you should be okay. Be warned also that tripping may compound stress/anxiety in your normal life. If you are already slightly depressed about legit stuff, then psychedelics might throw you off balance and make it worse. Or they might help you reach peace with your situation... it's kind of a crap shoot.

Basically, be careful and know when to stop.



:super: best advice you are going to get as of now....it really is something you and you alone will have to know how to handle...nobody else is going to be in your head holding your hand while you become experienced.

have you even tried psychedelics before?(please don't say weed,not in the same league)
Lv.5 trip isn't something you just dive into,not saying you can't,many have...just that there are many experiences to be had that are not quite egodeath but are still something to enjoy...just take it at your own pace,it isn't a race to see how far you can take it.


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Re: My mom has bipolar disorder and my moms aunt had schizophrenia [Re: iluvfungi]
    #14162298 - 03/21/11 11:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I would say that bipolar is not a disease and is something that is cureable or at least manageable.




Bipolar Disorder is a mental illness. It's a chemical imbalance in your brain. It is not curable, but it is treatable.

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A lot of my Bipolar disorder comes from caring about the World and realizing all the problems that exist. It's hard to live in a World with so many problems, in which not many care about the problems.





No, completely wrong. As I said before, Bipolar Disorder "comes from" a chemical imbalance in your brain. Maybe you mean that, when you are in a depressive state, you find yourself focusing on how many problems the world has and how little everyone seems to care, but there is no way that the state of the world's affairs is causing a chemical imbalance in your brain.

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I try to focus on just being positive overall now. If I were you I would not take med's and do my best to focus on natural stuff.





OP, please don't take the advice of this psychotic person. If it turns out that you have inherited a predisposition to mental illness, and you do have a psychotic episode, attend a few NAMI meetings, that should give you an idea of what you should do to treat your illness.

If you're really worried about becoming insane, just wait. Don't smoke weed or take any psychedelics until you're old enough (mid twenties) to be sure that you do not have the predisposition to mental illness.


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Re: My mom has bipolar disorder and my moms aunt had schizophrenia [Re: healing]
    #14171511 - 03/23/11 05:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Bipolar is a chemical imbalance only in the sense that starving is a chemical imbalance.  Of course the medical world doesn't want to consider this so they can sell you depakote, zoloft, and the like.

I feel that mankind HAS to engage in the psychedelic experience, or at least those that suffer mentally.  American Indians still partake in family/community trips on peyote, etc.  Mushrooms and peyote are brain food literally.  The symptoms of starving from them is bipolar, ocd, panic/anxiety, etc..  Many times (as in my personal case with my father passing away) the stress of life induces the need to take a psychedelic to in part make one's mind stronger and able to cope with the stressor. 

I know people that have ate over quarters of shroom and said their bipolar was 'cured'.  For me I am still to much of a pussy to eat that much but I feel if I did I could cure my bipolar, at least for a period of several months until I needed to trip again.


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Re: My mom has bipolar disorder and my moms aunt had schizophrenia [Re: Buckeye Oysters]
    #14172789 - 03/23/11 09:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, just ignore science. That stuff is evil, except for when it's being used to produce Acid, or grow mushrooms, or treat cancer. I mean, it's not like these people have dedicated their lives to researching the things that make us ill.


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Re: My mom has bipolar disorder and my moms aunt had schizophrenia [Re: healing]
    #14172866 - 03/23/11 09:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Yeah, just ignore science. That stuff is evil, except for when it's being used to produce Acid, or grow mushrooms, or treat cancer. I mean, it's not like these people have dedicated their lives to researching the things that make us ill.



:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Im glad someone finally said it... "Enlightened" drug users are just as bad as people who are ultra-religious when it comes to science and health issues. I swear, these people think "healthy diet, exercise, and meditation" will cure HIV and Cancer. Its just as stupid as someone who says "saying a prayer to god" will cure you of those diseases.

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Re: My mom has bipolar disorder and my moms aunt had schizophrenia [Re: mushhead91]
    #14182053 - 03/25/11 01:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

having people diagnose you/ tell you what to do on the internet is ridiculous

go see a doctor. find out. you just shouldn't do it it's really not worth the risk


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Re: My mom has bipolar disorder and my moms aunt had schizophrenia [Re: mushhead91]
    #14182522 - 03/25/11 02:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Yeah, just ignore science. That stuff is evil, except for when it's being used to produce Acid, or grow mushrooms, or treat cancer. I mean, it's not like these people have dedicated their lives to researching the things that make us ill.



:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Im glad someone finally said it... "Enlightened" drug users are just as bad as people who are ultra-religious when it comes to science and health issues. I swear, these people think "healthy diet, exercise, and meditation" will cure HIV and Cancer. Its just as stupid as someone who says "saying a prayer to god" will cure you of those diseases.

People need to get real.




But to the contrary, the suffering patient always knows better when it comes to experiencing relief.  I have been bipolar for over 12 years.  After having many episodes I was diagnosed by a psychiatrist and took about every group of known mood stabilizers, ssri's, anticonvulsants, etc.. over a 2 year span.  When I discovered that marijuana gave me relief (i didn't use till i was 19) I told my psychiatrist who rolled her eyes and wouldn't let me continue my xanax prescription because now I was a 'drug user'.  What a bitch, and I stopped going to her and went cold turkey on my meds, which by the way gave me a hellish withdraw.

Now shrooms and weed give me more relief that anything I ever took in a pill and they both will never be legalized for medical use as long as the federal government stands.


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Re: My mom has bipolar disorder and my moms aunt had schizophrenia [Re: Buckeye Oysters]
    #14182663 - 03/25/11 02:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I definitely think that most pharms are overprescribed, and that most psychiatrists don't really know (or care) how to treat their patients in a holistic way. Some people definitely need meds in order to maintain a stable quality of life, and anti-depressants can certainly be used in a temporary fashion to treat somebody for depression.

But to say that medication alone will treat/cure somebody of a mental illness (depending on what illness) is absurd. You have to take into consideration all these other aspects of a person's life, like interpersonal relationships, self-fulfillment, the social environment, etc. Our society is very very sick, and IMO depression, mania, and drug addiction is the appropriate response for a healthy person.

Also, everybody is different and needs to be treated in different ways. It's easy to say that a kid has ADD/ADHD and remark about how amazingly amphetamines work to make them sit still in class and study more. But it's a lot more difficult to address the deeper problems of the classroom setting, to recognize how boring and intolerable it is for some kids, and to make a space that is suitable for hyperactive and creative childrens' education.

It's easy to pay some doctor to put you on meds. It's difficult to find a true friend who will counsel you when you are having emotional/mental problems and who will work with you to improve your quality of life on a more fundamental level.

And so I think that psychedelics have this incredible potential to allow unparalleled insight into one's own psyche, and give us an opportunity to change ourselves. Professional/experienced guidance can of course help with this. And it's also very easy for a person who is unstable or vulnerable to abuse psychedelics and make themselves worse.

Psychedelics shouldn't be seen as an instant cure for mental illnesses by itself. But with a process of therapy coupled with it they can be very effective for certain things.  Some people are able to do this by themselves, and others are not.


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Re: My mom has bipolar disorder and my moms aunt had schizophrenia [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14182933 - 03/25/11 06:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

As a rule, psychotic people don't know what is best for their mental health. If taking psychedelics helps you to cope with your illness, I say go for it, but I do not think that you should use them to self medicate. Speak to a psychiatrist about your self medication. I'm sure that, no matter what doctor you try to ask for help, you will never find one that thinks that psychedelics are useful for treating psychosis.

Honestly, I feel that your self medication, though it may make you feel better temporarily, will lead to a psychotic episode. It's really just a matter of time. Try tripping every week for a while and see how that leaves you feeling.

One of the problems with helping bipolar people is that they can be extremely emotionally unstable and not even know that they are unstable. If you're not talking to an expert on the matter, you just aren't ready to admit that you have a problem.


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Re: My mom has bipolar disorder and my moms aunt had schizophrenia [Re: healing]
    #14182985 - 03/25/11 06:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Honestly, I feel that your self medication, though it may make you feel better temporarily, will lead to a psychotic episode. It's really just a matter of time. Try tripping every week for a while and see how that leaves you feeling.





Tripping every week will make anyone unstable. I don't think that a few trips in a year will definitely make a bi-polar person go psychotic. It's all about how you do it. What dose, what substance, what setting, what process of therapy, how you integrate afterwards, etc...  I'm not going to say that people with mental illnesses should definitely always do psychs and not worry, but you can't make a blanket statement that psychedelics will always have a negative effect on people with "mental illness".


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Re: My mom has bipolar disorder and my moms aunt had schizophrenia [Re: healing]
    #14183040 - 03/25/11 06:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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But to say that medication alone will treat/cure somebody of a mental illness (depending on what illness) is absurd. You have to take into consideration all these other aspects of a person's life, like interpersonal relationships, self-fulfillment, the social environment, etc. Our society is very very sick, and IMO depression, mania, and drug addiction is the appropriate response for a healthy person.

Also, everybody is different and needs to be treated in different ways. It's easy to say that a kid has ADD/ADHD and remark about how amazingly amphetamines work to make them sit still in class and study more. But it's a lot more difficult to address the deeper problems of the classroom setting, to recognize how boring and intolerable it is for some kids, and to make a space that is suitable for hyperactive and creative childrens' education.




I agree with you that there is always underlying social/physical problems that cause the mental disorder in the first place, just like when a drug addict goes to rehab the focus is on their family life, experiences, fears, etc.  If my life was more improved socially Im sure I would not be/have been as bipolar as I am now.

For me and I'm sure for lots of people suffering mental anguish, there is no other choice than to self medicate with something that works.  Shrooms and weed is not a cure all by itself but its a avenue by which healing can occur if used properly, I think most can agree on that.  I know lots of people that did tons of acid, shrooms, weed, etc and still are as fucked up as ever because they never used the experience to help themselves nor did they ever try to improve their normal lives.  Psychiatrists are drug pushers and there is not a single person that will ever get consistent relief from pharm meds for bipolar and other mental problems.  In every case the person's body eventually grows tolerant of the meds and dosage has to be increased to the point of side effects or meds have to be changed.  It is a vicious and expensive cycle that can't compete to a holistic approach.


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Re: My mom has bipolar disorder and my moms aunt had schizophrenia [Re: Buckeye Oysters]
    #14183077 - 03/25/11 06:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Tripping every week will make anyone unstable. I don't think that a few trips in a year will definitely make a bi-polar person go psychotic. It's all about how you do it. What dose, what substance, what setting, what process of therapy, how you integrate afterwards, etc...  I'm not going to say that people with mental illnesses should definitely always do psychs and not worry, but you can't make a blanket statement that psychedelics will always have a negative effect on people with "mental illness".




Heh, for a period of 2 months I tripped nearly everyday.  I'd go: acid, acid, shrooms, shrooms, take day off for tolerance, then back to acid, acid, shrooms, shrooms.  It was probably one of the funnest and most exploratory points of my life.  Afterwards I felt no ill effects and no one has said I'm crazier.  On average though I only trip 2-4 times a month cause I own my own business and its hard to get time and energy.

BTW, without weed and shrooms I would have NEVER got to the point of owning and running my own gourmet mushroom farm.  Truthfully, if I was still on meds we would not be having this conversation because I would have committed suicide years ago.


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Re: My mom has bipolar disorder and my moms aunt had schizophrenia [Re: BoldAsLove]
    #14183506 - 03/25/11 07:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

getting back to your question: no one online can tell you what is right for you. i consider myself to be a very sensitive person; i definitely get it from my mom. i have big ups and downs, but that doesnt mean i cant control myself. the only thing i can try to tell you, is start slow. training wheels will make you look like a pussy, but its the only way to learn.


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Re: My mom has bipolar disorder and my moms aunt had schizophrenia [Re: smokin427]
    #14189722 - 03/26/11 11:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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smokin427 said:
getting back to your question: no one online can tell you what is right for you. i consider myself to be a very sensitive person; i definitely get it from my mom. i have big ups and downs, but that doesnt mean i cant control myself. the only thing i can try to tell you, is start slow. training wheels will make you look like a pussy, but its the only way to learn.



i love how the shroomery is a site for learning self understanding, and being notorious for people with knowledge about things beyond the norm

and then someone expresses care about someone thinking they're a pussy

what fun irony is


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Re: My mom has bipolar disorder and my moms aunt had schizophrenia [Re: Buckeye Oysters]
    #14190681 - 03/27/11 05:49 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I have been strongly bipolar for the past 12 years and I didn't start getting real relief till I started tripping at least a couple times a month.  The harder the trip the better and longer the relief lasts.  Weed used to do the trick but I noticed as I got older the weed did less (even great stuff) to curb depression and mania.

Yes it can be onset by lots of stress.  I began soon after my father died unexpectedly.  I would say that bipolar is not a disease and is something that is cureable or at least manageable.  You have to lower the stress in your life if its possible or work hard and suffer a while to get to a point in life of less stress.

Even if its older adults i'd recommend mushrooms for therapy but only if tripping with you or someone else they know so their is little anxiety.

BTW meds always work for a month or two then your body becomes used to them and builds tolerance to which you have to up amounts until you reach a point of nasty side effects or you are forced onto a different drug.  I take no meds anymore other than weed and mushrooms (a little acid too doesnt hurt), I get exercise, and I have plenty of work and family to keep me occupied even if I feel suicidally depressed I can still hang on well through the episode thinking about my life, family, and purpose.




Damn, that is so true.  I have bipolar also, and it started with a really horrible, deep depression when I was 13, a year after my father disappeared.  Now, He has depression (And probably was bipolar, from his actions) my mom has depression, my sister has anxiety disorder, and my brother has depression, his daugher has anxiety disorder..... my sisters daughter has ADD.....  So i would say, it is genetic condition that is triggered by stress.


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