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Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do?
    #14153630 - 03/20/11 12:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Father turns in own kids for bullying

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An Ipswich father claims he was so irate when he caught his two children attacking another that he turned them into police to be charged.

The father, known only as Matt, told Brisbane radio station 97.3FM he witnessed his 17-year-old son and 15-year-old daughter bashing a 13-year-old boy, breaking his jaw, because he wore glasses.

Enraged after experiencing similar bullying in his childhood, he marched his children to a police station to have them charged with assault.

He said he also sold his son’s car and daughter’s horse as further punishment.

"Yesterday afternoon I’m on my way home ... come ‘round the corner three streets from home [and] there’s my 17-year-old son and my 15-year-old daughter and they are fair beating the living crap out of this kid," he said.

"I pulled up, I damaged the car [as] I put the car up the gutter. I grabbed a hold of both of them, threw them in the back of the car, got the young kid that they were beating up ... took him home to his parents [and] marched both my kids into the local police station.

"They have both now been charged with assault."

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He said it was not the first time the teens had bullied the younger boy.

“About three weeks ago it was brought to my attention, through the school they attend, that they have been bullying a child at school,” he said.

The children later admitted to bullying the younger teen because he wore glasses, the same reason their father was bullied as a child.

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The father said he and his wife would stand behind the parents of the bullied child if they pressed ahead with the charges.




Basically I wonder, what would you do in this situation if you were the dad?  Obviously it was very serious bullying if they broke the kids jaw, they certainly deserve some serious discipline for it, but I have problems with parents turning their on children in to the police for anything short of murder.  Personally, I'd probably do everything the dad did except for the part where he drives them to the police station.  I'd probably leave it up to the parents of the other kid to report it to the police if they wanted to.  How about you?

Another opinion of mine: picking on someone for wearing glasses is probably the stupidest reason to pick on someone that I can imagine.


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14153666 - 03/20/11 12:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Well I don't completely disagree with what he did since we don't know the complete background of the situation. I however would first give my children a talk about it, if the problem persists then I would definitely turn them in to hopefully teach them a lesson. Children fighting is one thing but kids ganging up on younger kids for such a stupid reason is just absurd.


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: puff4200] * 5
    #14153694 - 03/20/11 12:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Bullies should be jailed.  Every time.  Period. 

It's easy to dismiss it, but if you have lived through it you have no sympathy.  I had a horrible home life and was a little withdrawn from my classmates because of it. I was bullied relentlessly just because of that fact.  I lived in terror pretty much.  People who do this shit are scumbags.

Good for the dad. 

I, however, don't agree with parents calling the police for drugs or most other situations, but violence is unacceptable.


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Shroomerette] * 1
    #14153712 - 03/20/11 12:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i would eat them :shrug:


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: JesusGoneRogue]
    #14153749 - 03/20/11 01:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i fully agree with the dad-i mean they broke his jaw??wtf
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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Micawber]
    #14153812 - 03/20/11 01:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i agree completely with the dad. would've done the same.
thats fucked up what the kids did.


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Tcm19277] * 7
    #14153840 - 03/20/11 01:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Now that's good parenting!


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Tcm19277] * 1
    #14153851 - 03/20/11 01:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Generation RattingIsCool in full bloom here.

Calling the cops on your own family is the lowest of lows.


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Senor_Doobie] * 2
    #14153875 - 03/20/11 01:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'd have handled it before it got this far.
But broken jaw is serious business. Cops will get involved, might as well call them and get in front of it.


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14153881 - 03/20/11 01:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Before I read that they broke the kids jaw, I thought, "what a fucking rat snitch mother fucker to turn his own family in". But yeah, breaking the kids jaw is a bit much. But seriously, dealing with bullies by calling on bigger bullies seems a bit ironic.


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Micawber] * 1
    #14153898 - 03/20/11 01:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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i fully agree with the dad-i mean they broke his jaw??wtf
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I'd have taken care of the kid's medical and punished my kids by forcing them
to be his servants for several months, nothing like making them the inferior 
of the kid they were assaulting, I certainly wouldnt have had charges brought
against my kids. if they felt that was unfair then the other option is to get
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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14153904 - 03/20/11 01:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I like this story, fucking brats got what they deserved. They should know better at that age.


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #14153915 - 03/20/11 01:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Calling the cops on your own family is the lowest of lows.





I rank it up there with pimping your grandmother to pay for your meth habit


family issues need to be dealt with as a family


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14153926 - 03/20/11 01:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Well, I'm sure the bullied kid's parents would have called the police anyway.  The kids were going to jail regardless.  May as well let the kids understand that what they did was unacceptable, and that you don't support the behavior.


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14153964 - 03/20/11 01:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Basically I wonder, what would you do in this situation if you were the dad?  Obviously it was very serious bullying if they broke the kids jaw, they certainly deserve some serious discipline for it, but I have problems with parents turning their on children in to the police for anything short of murder.  Personally, I'd probably do everything the dad did except for the part where he drives them to the police station.  I'd probably leave it up to the parents of the other kid to report it to the police if they wanted to.  How about you?

Another opinion of mine: picking on someone for wearing glasses is probably the stupidest reason to pick on someone that I can imagine.




I would have done exactly what he did. What a fucking great father.

We could get into the logistics of how his children grew up to be bullies (i.e. Was he a poor father earlier in their lives?).
But that's beside the point.
They're grown teenagers going around beating people up- they deserve whatever the fuck they get.

As for the line at which you are allowed to turn people into the police...
Assault, battery, etc. are definitely grounds for turning someone in!
Any violent crime (or, to a lesser extent, any crime involving a victim) is!


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: BothHands] * 2
    #14153967 - 03/20/11 01:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Another opinion of mine: picking on someone for wearing glasses is probably the stupidest reason to pick on someone that I can imagine.




picking on anyone for any reason is retarded

unless they're muslim or retarded


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14153972 - 03/20/11 01:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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ifoundwaldo said: As for the line at which you are allowed to turn people into the police...
Assault, battery, etc. are definitely grounds for turning someone in!
Any violent crime (or, to a lesser extent, any crime involving a victim) is!




Anything that needs more than a bandaid for sure.


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14154009 - 03/20/11 01:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I would have broke the little fuckers' hand:yesnod:


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #14154034 - 03/20/11 01:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Senor_Doobie said:
Calling the cops on your own family is the lowest of lows.





I rank it up there with pimping your grandmother to pay for your meth habit


family issues need to be dealt with as a family



what're we, living in tribal times? Are we still in medieval scotland, feuding?

Why does it make a difference if someone is your brother or your neighbor?


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14154037 - 03/20/11 01:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Senor_Doobie said:
Generation RattingIsCool in full bloom here.

Calling the cops on your own family is the lowest of lows.




Violence is the lowest of the lows.
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Prisoner#1 said:I rank it up there with pimping your grandmother to pay for your meth habit


family issues need to be dealt with as a family




This isn't a family issue when your beating someone in public, that's a public issue.  Would it be different if those kids has bashed the kids nose into his brain and killed him?  At that point can you call the cops on a family member?  This kid they beat is gonna have issues (if he didn't already) for years after being assaulted and having his jaw broke.


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: nasem]
    #14154063 - 03/20/11 02:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

this is a tough one, i dont agree with a father turning in his own kids that just seems wrong to me, however his kids seemed like little assholes that deserved to get arrested for doing that. i just think it should be up to the assaulted boy and his parents whether or not they press charges and put this kid through the legal system. if i were the dad i would have done everything else that guy did but i think i would have taken the kids home and smacked them around a little to teach them a lesson, i mean the boy was 17 not some helpless 5th grader i would have prob broken his jaw but not turned him into the police.


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Envix]
    #14154096 - 03/20/11 02:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Another opinion of mine: picking on someone for wearing glasses is probably the stupidest reason to pick on someone that I can imagine.




picking on anyone for any reason is retarded

unless they're muslim or retarded




You don't call retarded people retards. It's bad taste. You call your friends retards when they're acting retarded.


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: LeeHarvOz]
    #14154097 - 03/20/11 02:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

first bullying

then murder

its a lack of control that needs to be dealt with


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: amilibertine]
    #14154099 - 03/20/11 02:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

This had happened before and the father probably already talked to them about their behavior. And they are were still doing it.

I wouldn't have taken my kids to the police station, but I would have brought them to the assaulted kid's house and made them confess to the kids parents. Then let them decide if they wanted to press charges. And stood behind any decision they made.


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: LeeHarvOz]
    #14154189 - 03/20/11 02:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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i would have taken the kids home and smacked them around a little to teach them a lesson, i mean the boy was 17 not some helpless 5th grader i would have prob broken his jaw but not turned him into the police.



Wow, you're no better than those punk ass kids. I mean seriously, if these were your kids no wonder they beat someone up. Beating your kids is not going to make them peaceful.


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: learningtofly]
    #14154214 - 03/20/11 02:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

maybe he should've gotten the glasses kid they were bullying to kick the shit out of them


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Envix] * 1
    #14154224 - 03/20/11 02:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Or maybe you could end a needless cycle of violence :jefferson:


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    #14154233 - 03/20/11 02:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

or tie them to a chair facing the sun and tape their eyes open so that they have to start wearing glasses


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14154270 - 03/20/11 02:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

he did the right thing. bullying is for elementary school kids. i've never seen a bully older than 9. 17 and 15 year old bullies are some fucked up individuals.


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    #14154325 - 03/20/11 02:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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he did the right thing. bullying is for elementary school kids. i've never seen a bully older than 9. 17 and 15 year old bullies are some fucked up individuals.



Yea theres a line between being a young (1-10) bully and being
an adult (17comeon) beating random kids-thats some psyco shit
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    #14154471 - 03/20/11 03:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)



Bullying is one thing that I absolutely despise and would not tolerate. That being said, I don't know what I would have done. If the other parents pressed charges I would not feel bad.


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14154572 - 03/20/11 03:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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An Ipswich father claims he was so irate when he caught his two children attacking another that he turned them into police to be charged.

The father, known only as Matt, told Brisbane radio station 97.3FM he witnessed his 17-year-old son and 15-year-old daughter bashing a 13-year-old boy, breaking his jaw, because he wore glasses.

Enraged after experiencing similar bullying in his childhood, he marched his children to a police station to have them charged with assault.

He said he also sold his son’s car and daughter’s horse as further punishment.

"Yesterday afternoon I’m on my way home ... come ‘round the corner three streets from home [and] there’s my 17-year-old son and my 15-year-old daughter and they are fair beating the living crap out of this kid," he said.

"I pulled up, I damaged the car [as] I put the car up the gutter. I grabbed a hold of both of them, threw them in the back of the car, got the young kid that they were beating up ... took him home to his parents [and] marched both my kids into the local police station.

"They have both now been charged with assault."

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He said it was not the first time the teens had bullied the younger boy.

“About three weeks ago it was brought to my attention, through the school they attend, that they have been bullying a child at school,” he said.

The children later admitted to bullying the younger teen because he wore glasses, the same reason their father was bullied as a child.

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The father said he and his wife would stand behind the parents of the bullied child if they pressed ahead with the charges.




Basically I wonder, what would you do in this situation if you were the dad?  Obviously it was very serious bullying if they broke the kids jaw, they certainly deserve some serious discipline for it, but I have problems with parents turning their on children in to the police for anything short of murder.  Personally, I'd probably do everything the dad did except for the part where he drives them to the police station.  I'd probably leave it up to the parents of the other kid to report it to the police if they wanted to.  How about you?

Another opinion of mine: picking on someone for wearing glasses is probably the stupidest reason to pick on someone that I can imagine.




my dad did something similar to this, but instead of turning me in he let the kid i was beating up, beat my ass.

i was only kicking the shit out of this kid cause he stole my bike and fucked it up, but of course my idiot dad didnt ask any questions. he instead, ran up and knocked my ass on the ground. he then helped the other kid up and explained to him who he was then picked my ass up and started to choke hold me. he told the other kid to fuck me up. at first the kid was a little hesitant, but after a sec or two he punched me in the head a few times then once in the stomach and twice in the nuts.

this is no joke. this all happened word for word. after the kid finished beating my ass while my own fater held me he took off and my dad threw me down and kicked me once real hard in the side. i was actually bruised. on the side for a little under a week.

after i got over the anger part of my dad i explained to him what had happened. he paused for a sec, laughed, then said this and i quote, "my bad son.".

not only did i take the leftover anger from this kid stealing my bike and fucking it up. i also took the hurt and anger i got from my dad for taking the actions he took and added those feelings to the fact that this kid knew he was in the wrong in the first place but still took it upon himself to beat my ass and let all these feelings explode on this kid, his older brother and his faggot cousin who thought he was a fucking thug.

i got 6 months in juvy for assault. all the other charges were dropped cause the brother and the cuz jumped in and i was only defending myself. fucking bitches. i always pray that i run into this fucker now that im a grown ass adult. i would gladly fuck him up once more.

i also got revenge on my dad as well. about 3 years later my parents were having a party which i thought it would be a great idea to bring my new girlfriend too. my dad started running his mouth saying and i quote, " a pretty girl like yourself doesnt need to be with a fag like that." . i only lost it cause my mom was sitting right there.

i broke his jaw, his nose, and i made sure to give him a nice bruise on his side.

fucking bitch...


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Dunno]
    #14154745 - 03/20/11 04:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I think parents should have the choice to eugenicide their children, im sure the father would have done so if it was an option. Sometimes the genes just combine in a fail way.


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    #14154772 - 03/20/11 04:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I would slap both of them upside there heads repeatedly then they would be the house slaves for the next couple of months.


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    #14154797 - 03/20/11 04:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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An Ipswich father claims he was so irate when he caught his two children attacking another that he turned them into police to be charged.

The father, known only as Matt, told Brisbane radio station 97.3FM he witnessed his 17-year-old son and 15-year-old daughter bashing a 13-year-old boy, breaking his jaw, because he wore glasses.

Enraged after experiencing similar bullying in his childhood, he marched his children to a police station to have them charged with assault.

He said he also sold his son’s car and daughter’s horse as further punishment.

"Yesterday afternoon I’m on my way home ... come ‘round the corner three streets from home [and] there’s my 17-year-old son and my 15-year-old daughter and they are fair beating the living crap out of this kid," he said.

"I pulled up, I damaged the car [as] I put the car up the gutter. I grabbed a hold of both of them, threw them in the back of the car, got the young kid that they were beating up ... took him home to his parents [and] marched both my kids into the local police station.

"They have both now been charged with assault."

.........

He said it was not the first time the teens had bullied the younger boy.

“About three weeks ago it was brought to my attention, through the school they attend, that they have been bullying a child at school,” he said.

The children later admitted to bullying the younger teen because he wore glasses, the same reason their father was bullied as a child.

.........

The father said he and his wife would stand behind the parents of the bullied child if they pressed ahead with the charges.




Basically I wonder, what would you do in this situation if you were the dad?  Obviously it was very serious bullying if they broke the kids jaw, they certainly deserve some serious discipline for it, but I have problems with parents turning their on children in to the police for anything short of murder.  Personally, I'd probably do everything the dad did except for the part where he drives them to the police station.  I'd probably leave it up to the parents of the other kid to report it to the police if they wanted to.  How about you?

Another opinion of mine: picking on someone for wearing glasses is probably the stupidest reason to pick on someone that I can imagine.




my dad did something similar to this, but instead of turning me in he let the kid i was beating up, beat my ass.

i was only kicking the shit out of this kid cause he stole my bike and fucked it up, but of course my idiot dad didnt ask any questions. he instead, ran up and knocked my ass on the ground. he then helped the other kid up and explained to him who he was then picked my ass up and started to choke hold me. he told the other kid to fuck me up. at first the kid was a little hesitant, but after a sec or two he punched me in the head a few times then once in the stomach and twice in the nuts.

this is no joke. this all happened word for word. after the kid finished beating my ass while my own fater held me he took off and my dad threw me down and kicked me once real hard in the side. i was actually bruised. on the side for a little under a week.

after i got over the anger part of my dad i explained to him what had happened. he paused for a sec, laughed, then said this and i quote, "my bad son.".

not only did i take the leftover anger from this kid stealing my bike and fucking it up. i also took the hurt and anger i got from my dad for taking the actions he took and added those feelings to the fact that this kid knew he was in the wrong in the first place but still took it upon himself to beat my ass and let all these feelings explode on this kid, his older brother and his faggot cousin who thought he was a fucking thug.

i got 6 months in juvy for assault. all the other charges were dropped cause the brother and the cuz jumped in and i was only defending myself. fucking bitches. i always pray that i run into this fucker now that im a grown ass adult. i would gladly fuck him up once more.

i also got revenge on my dad as well. about 3 years later my parents were having a party which i thought it would be a great idea to bring my new girlfriend too. my dad started running his mouth saying and i quote, " a pretty girl like yourself doesnt need to be with a fag like that." . i only lost it cause my mom was sitting right there.

i broke his jaw, his nose, and i made sure to give him a nice bruise on his side.

fucking bitch...


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Poid]
    #14154858 - 03/20/11 04:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I wonder how the father feels about this. If I was a father I'd be very disappointed in my children. Im glad they are being charged with assault. 17 yrs old that is almost an adult in my eyes. You know better and if you can do the crime you can do the time.


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Enthrall]
    #14154870 - 03/20/11 04:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Wait this motherfucker was 17 and he was double teaming a 13 yr old?!?! If that was my kid I woulda busted his nose, fuck this jail nonsense kid needs some tough lovin to get his head straight.


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    #14155022 - 03/20/11 05:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14155072 - 03/20/11 05:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Calling the cops on your own family is the lowest of lows.





I rank it up there with pimping your grandmother to pay for your meth habit


family issues need to be dealt with as a family




This isn't a family issue, at all. The second it involves someone outside the family, it's public.

When your kids are going around beating up little kids with glasses, its now the issue of the kid being beat (and what the fuck is wrong with your kids). I'm kind of torn at what I would do.

I can't decide whether I would beat the shit out of both of them or whether I would go straight to the polcie and disown them. I mean really? Bashing his head in and breaking his jaw? That is just fucked up for having glasses. The poor kid won't be able to eat right for a long time and is gonna be scarred for life

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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: amilibertine]
    #14155202 - 03/20/11 06:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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family issues need to be dealt with as a family




This isn't a family issue when your beating someone in public, that's a public issue.  Would it be different if those kids has bashed the kids nose into his brain and killed him?  At that point can you call the cops on a family member?  This kid they beat is gonna have issues (if he didn't already) for years after being assaulted and having his jaw broke.





beating someone in public makes it a public issue... lol


so this is why we have the government playing daddy in every aspect of our
lives, need to shit, you need the government approved, quilted lint free
potty papers because people stopped trying to resolve problems amongst
themselves and decided to one up each other. back when I was in school I
was picked on all the time, and of course when I fought back we both got
sent to the office for suspension, when my mother was called and the
situation was explained she told them to fuck off, they were not
suspending me for defending myself. guess what, they didnt, I got sent
back to class and I didnt develop any issues... about 4 years ago my
sister went through the same thing with her son, nothing happened to him
either after contacting a lawyer that happened to represent the school



the kids that picked on me, I suffered a broken nose once, one of them had
2 broken ribs and a concussion, a different kid got pinned between the bus
seats and stomped until someone managed to pull me off, an 8th grader got
pinned in the doorway with me kicking the fuck out of him until they
spotted me and got someone around to get me off him, I was in 6th back then

matt pitts was slammed on his head, robert woods was the kid on the bus,
he also met a steel post a few days later when he came back for more,
maria houdak stabbed me in the back with a pencil while I was at my desk,
I cleared her desk and made her eyes and the big ol' tater nose of hers
swell up even more... I got in trouble for that one until my mom dug the
pencil lead out of my back... wayne bagget jumped me in my back yard, my
brother and 2 other people got me off him and he grabbed a saw to use as a
weapon, I almost killed his ass on that, alan brock almost lost a finger
when he started shit with me.... I got picked on a lot

back then people dealt with shit like people, if your kid sent my kid home
with a busted jaw the parents handled it, now we're a planet of global cry
babies that have to have the courts running our lives instead of teaching
our kids to take up for themselves and defending our kids when they grab
something and use it against their attackers. like my step father said, if
someone bigger than you is whipping your ass, grab a stick and wear their
heads out... that advice bit him in the ass but it was solid advice


BTW... you cant put someones nose or the bone into their brain and kill
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    #14155215 - 03/20/11 06:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I think it's great what the dad did! Fuck those little bullies. It's hilarious he sold his car and the girls horse.

It would have better if he had shot the horse infront of the girl and burnt the car in front of the son. Fuck bullies.


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: 2Cents]
    #14155221 - 03/20/11 06:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

the horse didnt do anything wrong, why kill it


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    #14155342 - 03/20/11 06:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Oh, so you're saying that the little 13 year old kid just should have been a badass like you, and broken the ribs of the 17 year old and 15 year old that were beating him senseless.

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    #14155368 - 03/20/11 06:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Thats exactly what hes saying, sorry if the real world seems a little to brutal for you but when push comes to shove someones gonna get knocked the fuck out. enough if this babying nonsense schools are trying to push when it comes to bullying, it was never a real problem back in the day when everyone knew how to fight.


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    #14155385 - 03/20/11 06:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

turn them in. they arent even picking on someone who could possibly be the same size and able to defend themself. they are picking on someone several years youngers who couldnt possibly defend themself.


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14155397 - 03/20/11 06:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

That's some bullshit...  I know a lot of adults who were bullied mercilessly as kids.  As far as I can tell, it's a whole lot better.

And if everyone knew how to fight, then the older kids would know how to fight too.  I don't care if you know how to fight, if you are outnumbered by people who are much larger than you who also know how to fight, it's not going to change anything.


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    #14155400 - 03/20/11 06:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

If only most parents were like this guy..

Make the kids scared to bully :shrug:


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    #14155484 - 03/20/11 07:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Thats exactly what hes saying, sorry if the real world seems a little to brutal for you but when push comes to shove someones gonna get knocked the fuck out. enough if this babying nonsense schools are trying to push when it comes to bullying, it was never a real problem back in the day when everyone knew how to fight.


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    #14155674 - 03/20/11 07:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

If I was in this situation I have no idea what I'd do. I'd probably want to beat my kid senseless, so taking him to spend the night in jail would definitely give me some time to cool down.  And some time for him to think about what he did and hopefully realize that it was a lame idea.
But, jail. Really?
I'd probably just gather together the elders and have a pow wow.  All the grandfathers and his dad.  Something about that sounds scary enough to me and I didn't even do anything wrong.

Maybe the kids will just think that they're badasses now that they've been booked and start being even bigger dicks.

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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: BothHands]
    #14155692 - 03/20/11 07:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Oh, so you're saying that the little 13 year old kid just should have been a badass like you, and broken the ribs of the 17 year old and 15 year old that were beating him senseless.

Oh, ok.





how old do you think I was in middle school, 28?


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    #14155705 - 03/20/11 07:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You mean you graduated before you turned 40?


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: BeverageFace]
    #14155727 - 03/20/11 07:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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turn them in. they arent even picking on someone who could possibly be the same size and able to defend themself. they are picking on someone several years youngers who couldnt possibly defend themself.




in school I was the smallest kid, most were nearly twice my size, at 18 I was
5'4 and 115lbs, who says a little guy cant defend himself, it's not about
size, it's about desire. I had the desire not to get my ass kicked in school
and the desire not to get my ass kicked when I got home for losing a fight, I
had the desire to make the beating I gave as humiliating as possible for
anyone that jumped on me... like it wasnt bad enough they were dropped by the
small kid in school but to have him tap dance on your eyebrows and call you
an overgrown bitch in front of dozens of people...

throughout my childhood there's been a bully, there's been a few in my adult
years, I've always been small and that's always worked to my advantage


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    #14155738 - 03/20/11 07:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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You mean you graduated before you turned 40?





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    #14155759 - 03/20/11 07:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

yikes, man. you sound like my ex husband :sad:

he had issues because he was 5'8" and couldn't weigh over 115 if he tried.  pretty sure he had to cheat to weigh enough to join the army.

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    #14155786 - 03/20/11 07:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm really a nice guy... what I havent confessed to yet was the fact that I
put up with the bullying for months before I finally let them have it, I dont
believe in violence but everyone has a limit, mine takes a while to reach

I have no anger issues or any crap dealing with my size, I've always just
wanted to be left alone, some people didnt feel they should


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    #14155796 - 03/20/11 08:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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how old do you think I was in middle school, 28?




I didn't say you were 28, I said you were a badass.  This kid isn't.  And he can't just become one because he's getting beaten up.

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who says a little guy cant defend himself




If the little guy is Bruce Lee, or Prisoner#1, then he can.  But not all people are like you.

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I had the desire not to get my ass kicked in school




I'm pretty sure this kid also had the desire to not get his ass kicked.

I have the desire not to get my ass kicked, but that doesn't mean I could beat up a football player.


But these kids were going to jail whether the dad turned them in or not.  Whether you like it or not, you don't break someone's jaw in this country and expect to stay out of jail.  Not unless you're defending yourself or in the projects.  They were going to jail either way, and I think it's better they go by their father's hands than someone else's.


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    #14155850 - 03/20/11 08:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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how old do you think I was in middle school, 28?




I didn't say you were 28, I said you were a badass.  This kid isn't.  And he can't just become one because he's getting beaten up.





everyone is a badass of there's a car nearby... let me introduce you to The Paintenna®





these little fellas are found everywhere and are typically only finger
tight, they put a bully in a world of hurt and if wielded properly can
rapidly draw blood, I've never once found anyone that enjoys a visit from
a steel whip


now if that's not handy, these typically are widely available to every
school kid, those pokey, stabby devices the schools dont consider to be
weapons at all... even though they may not draw blook the trauma caused by
getting poked really hard in any muscle is plenty to slow most people down



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I have the desire not to get my ass kicked, but that doesn't mean I could beat up a football player.




well certainly not with that attitude you wont, my sister broke the face
of a former MP that she was married to, her 5'2 ass picked up a radio and
smashed his cheek with it... he's 6'7, they divorced shortly after that


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14155866 - 03/20/11 08:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I was arrested for defending myself with a pen in middle school.  Apparently a pen is a deadly weapon, and bringing a deadly weapon to a fist fight is apparently too extreme to be considered self defense.  He didn't get any type of punishment.  In fact, I had to pay him 300$ restitution.

Schools and the law do consider pens to be weapons.  Deadly weapons.

My charge was eventually expunged after I did 350 hours of community service, paid resitution, and wrote an essay about school violence.

But I'm now applying for citizenship, and it's coming back to bite me in the ass.

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well certainly not with that attitude you wont, my sister broke the face
of a former MP that she was married to, her 5'2 ass picked up a radio and
smashed his cheek with it... he's 6'7, they divorced shortly after that




Well, I don't have Prisoner#1's superpower blood in me.


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    #14155887 - 03/20/11 08:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

there's no such thing as too extreme in self defense, the whole point is to
defend yourself, if you started the fight it's certainly aggression but self
defense is an inalienable right for all americans and the supreme court says
a students rights are not left at the school house door


it's a lawsuit on 3 counts, the deadly weapons they encourage kids to carry,
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    #14155911 - 03/20/11 08:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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well certainly not with that attitude you wont, my sister broke the face
of a former MP that she was married to, her 5'2 ass picked up a radio and
smashed his cheek with it... he's 6'7, they divorced shortly after that




Well, I don't have Prisoner#1's superpower blood in me.




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    #14155912 - 03/20/11 08:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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BothHands said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
how old do you think I was in middle school, 28?




I didn't say you were 28, I said you were a badass.  This kid isn't.  And he can't just become one because he's getting beaten up.





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these little fellas are found everywhere and are typically only finger
tight, they put a bully in a world of hurt and if wielded properly can
rapidly draw blood, I've never once found anyone that enjoys a visit from
a steel whip


now if that's not handy, these typically are widely available to every
school kid, those pokey, stabby devices the schools dont consider to be
weapons at all... even though they may not draw blook the trauma caused by
getting poked really hard in any muscle is plenty to slow most people down



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I have the desire not to get my ass kicked, but that doesn't mean I could beat up a football player.




well certainly not with that attitude you wont, my sister broke the face
of a former MP that she was married to, her 5'2 ass picked up a radio and
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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14155913 - 03/20/11 08:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

No, I didn't start.  He was squeezing my ass, and I told him I'd stab him with the pen if he did it again.  He did it again.  I barely even drew blood, just one small drop.

And the rest has already been explained.  I guess that's what happens when you use a public defender?  Either way, that's my experience.  I have the charges to prove that a pen is considered a deadly weapon, and that it's considered excessive force.


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: BothHands]
    #14155926 - 03/20/11 08:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Just to clarify, I believe this happened in Australia. I don't know how the laws there work, it might make a difference to how this turns out or it might not.

I'm surprised by how many people here say they would turn their own kids in to the cops! Does that qualify as a citizens arrest? :lol:


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    #14155928 - 03/20/11 08:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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No, I didn't start.  He was squeezing my ass, and I told him I'd stab him with the pen if he did it again.  He did it again.  I barely even drew blood, just one small drop.

And the rest has already been explained.  I guess that's what happens when you use a public defender?  Either way, that's my experience.  I have the charges to prove that a pen is considered a deadly weapon, and that it's considered excessive force.





that makes you the aggressor, ass squeezing certainly isnt cause for
stabbing, you had the chance to walk away after you made the threat and
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    #14155942 - 03/20/11 08:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I couldn't just walk away.  He was chasing me and grabbing my arm. 


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14155945 - 03/20/11 08:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Just to clarify, I believe this happened in Australia. I don't know how the laws there work, it might make a difference to how this turns out or it might not.






if they're like canada and england, self defense is forbidden, you're
supposed to borrow your attackers cell phone,call the police  and ask
them to stick around to be arrested for their crimes


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    #14155961 - 03/20/11 08:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Shroomerette said:
Just to clarify, I believe this happened in Australia. I don't know how the laws there work, it might make a difference to how this turns out or it might not.






if they're like canada and england, self defense is forbidden, you're
supposed to borrow your attackers cell phone,call the police  and ask
them to stick around to be arrested for their crimes


the polite society rules




It is fuckin retarded :facepalm:




Luckily anyone with a spine around here wont call the cops over something like a fight.


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    #14155972 - 03/20/11 08:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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    #14155974 - 03/20/11 08:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I couldn't just walk away.  He was chasing me and grabbing me.





chasing means you were capable of running... honestly in the same situation
I'd have done the same as you but I'd have been all over my public defender
to move for a dismissal on self defense, I'm assuming it was juvie courts and
there was no jury, that's one that makes no sense to me, it's failure in due
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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14155999 - 03/20/11 08:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

He was grabbing my arm though, so I couldn't get away.  But yeah, there was no jury.  All in all, everything took like 30 seconds.  There was no telling my side of the story to the judge.  There was no one explaining for me either.  I got a plea deal though, so it was expunged.  But when you apply for citizenship, even expunged charges matter.


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    #14156038 - 03/20/11 08:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

the whole juvie court thing is retarded, they claim it as family court to
maintain it as a family matter, problem is it's just a kangaroo court that
denies people the rights granted under the constitution as I recall, being
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    #14156053 - 03/20/11 08:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Well I only spent 2 days and 2 nights in the detention center.  Not like I sat in there for a month or something.  But yeah, at that point it's definitely not a family matter.  And since I still have a record, it's definitely a criminal matter.


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    #14156180 - 03/20/11 09:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I wish you luck on obtaining citizenship

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    #14156207 - 03/20/11 09:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks.  It cost a whole lot of money, so I won't be able to reapply for a few years if it goes wrong.  I hope it goes well.

I came here from Cape Town, South Africa.  Moved here when I was 8.  Been here 14 years.


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    #14156240 - 03/20/11 09:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I was curious because we have a lot of refugees from central europe working
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    #14156338 - 03/20/11 09:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, I'd definitely consider myself a refugee from South Africa.  We were here illegally for at least a year while my dad got paid under the table.  Eventually the company sponsored him for a work visa or some shit.  Then we were lucky enough to win the green card lottery. 

South Africa's really gotten out of hand.  You don't ask someone if they've ever been robbed, you ask them how many times they've been robbed.  My uncle was actually a car salesman.  He took this guy out for a test drive, and the guy shot him in the side of the head, pushed him out the car, and drove off.  It's really gone to shit.

I mean I'm glad the blacks got their equal rights, and I definitely don't condone segrigation, but they integrated the people all wrong.  They made a law that forced all businesses, even a lemonade stand in front of your house, to hire at least some very high percentage of black people.  But none of them had been educated.  The law stated that the businesses were responsible for teaching them.

So basically everything went out of business, corruption ran rampant, and the country is dying.


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14156508 - 03/20/11 09:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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family issues need to be dealt with as a family




This isn't a family issue when your beating someone in public, that's a public issue.  Would it be different if those kids has bashed the kids nose into his brain and killed him?  At that point can you call the cops on a family member?  This kid they beat is gonna have issues (if he didn't already) for years after being assaulted and having his jaw broke.





beating someone in public makes it a public issue... lol


so this is why we have the government playing daddy in every aspect of our
lives, need to shit, you need the government approved, quilted lint free
potty papers because people stopped trying to resolve problems amongst
themselves and decided to one up each other. back when I was in school I
was picked on all the time, and of course when I fought back we both got
sent to the office for suspension, when my mother was called and the
situation was explained she told them to fuck off, they were not
suspending me for defending myself. guess what, they didnt, I got sent
back to class and I didnt develop any issues... about 4 years ago my
sister went through the same thing with her son, nothing happened to him
either after contacting a lawyer that happened to represent the school



the kids that picked on me, I suffered a broken nose once, one of them had
2 broken ribs and a concussion, a different kid got pinned between the bus
seats and stomped until someone managed to pull me off, an 8th grader got
pinned in the doorway with me kicking the fuck out of him until they
spotted me and got someone around to get me off him, I was in 6th back then

matt pitts was slammed on his head, robert woods was the kid on the bus,
he also met a steel post a few days later when he came back for more,
maria houdak stabbed me in the back with a pencil while I was at my desk,
I cleared her desk and made her eyes and the big ol' tater nose of hers
swell up even more... I got in trouble for that one until my mom dug the
pencil lead out of my back... wayne bagget jumped me in my back yard, my
brother and 2 other people got me off him and he grabbed a saw to use as a
weapon, I almost killed his ass on that, alan brock almost lost a finger
when he started shit with me.... I got picked on a lot

back then people dealt with shit like people, if your kid sent my kid home
with a busted jaw the parents handled it, now we're a planet of global cry
babies that have to have the courts running our lives instead of teaching
our kids to take up for themselves and defending our kids when they grab
something and use it against their attackers. like my step father said, if
someone bigger than you is whipping your ass, grab a stick and wear their
heads out... that advice bit him in the ass but it was solid advice


BTW... you cant put someones nose or the bone into their brain and kill
them, trust me, I've tried




:facepalm:

So let me get this straight. Your whole point is that the kid should magically get that instinctive drive to defend himself when he obviously does not have the will to even put up a good fight and that it should simply be a family matter. 9 out of 10 times the 17 year old young adult will beat a 13 year old boy senseless, there is no questioning that, not everyone is a prisoner#1 :smirk:

I've got anger problems when it comes to things like people getting bullied and beat up mostly because my bestfriend was always picked on and I had to take care of it for him. Some kids are just chicken shits even if they don't want to get beat up.

I don't think I could handle myself if my child came home with a broken jaw. I would be so angry, no... I would be furious. I honestly think that would be the line for me to go out and kill someone :shrug:


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: BothHands]
    #14156674 - 03/20/11 10:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I mean I'm glad the blacks got their equal rights, and I definitely don't condone segrigation, but they integrated the people all wrong.  They made a law that forced all businesses, even a lemonade stand in front of your house, to hire at least some very high percentage of black people.  But none of them had been educated.  The law stated that the businesses were responsible for teaching them.
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I was just watching something about it a few days ago, blacks are up in arms
because now this is happening with asians in S. Africa, in america it's
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    #14156720 - 03/20/11 10:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Wow, I hadn't heard about that.  The system is seriously fucked to hell though.  No matter how crazy things are over here, it doesn't come anywhere near the insanity that's going on over there.  I'm so glad I made it to the states.


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    #14157044 - 03/20/11 11:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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i fully agree with the dad-i mean they broke his jaw??wtf
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I'd have taken care of the kid's medical and punished my kids by forcing them
to be his servants for several months, nothing like making them the inferior 
of the kid they were assaulting, I certainly wouldnt have had charges brought
against my kids. if they felt that was unfair then the other option is to get
jobs and surrender the paycheck as restitution to the kid for 6mos



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    #14159065 - 03/21/11 12:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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my dad did something similar to this, but instead of turning me in he let the kid i was beating up, beat my ass.

i was only kicking the shit out of this kid cause he stole my bike and fucked it up, but of course my idiot dad didnt ask any questions. he instead, ran up and knocked my ass on the ground. he then helped the other kid up and explained to him who he was then picked my ass up and started to choke hold me. he told the other kid to fuck me up. at first the kid was a little hesitant, but after a sec or two he punched me in the head a few times then once in the stomach and twice in the nuts.

this is no joke. this all happened word for word. after the kid finished beating my ass while my own fater held me he took off and my dad threw me down and kicked me once real hard in the side. i was actually bruised. on the side for a little under a week.

after i got over the anger part of my dad i explained to him what had happened. he paused for a sec, laughed, then said this and i quote, "my bad son.".

not only did i take the leftover anger from this kid stealing my bike and fucking it up. i also took the hurt and anger i got from my dad for taking the actions he took and added those feelings to the fact that this kid knew he was in the wrong in the first place but still took it upon himself to beat my ass and let all these feelings explode on this kid, his older brother and his faggot cousin who thought he was a fucking thug.

i got 6 months in juvy for assault. all the other charges were dropped cause the brother and the cuz jumped in and i was only defending myself. fucking bitches. i always pray that i run into this fucker now that im a grown ass adult. i would gladly fuck him up once more.

i also got revenge on my dad as well. about 3 years later my parents were having a party which i thought it would be a great idea to bring my new girlfriend too. my dad started running his mouth saying and i quote, " a pretty girl like yourself doesnt need to be with a fag like that." . i only lost it cause my mom was sitting right there.

i broke his jaw, his nose, and i made sure to give him a nice bruise on his side.

fucking bitch...
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when all this happened i too was the smallest kid in school/ neighborhood. i learned to fight only because of all the fights i was involved in. im only 5'5 and 150lbs now and i still fight grown ass men. :lol: ive been beat up plenty of times, but ive won a hell of a lot more.

not sure who said it, but kids are fucking pussies now. when i was 7 years old i was out when the sun rose and didnt come home till it was dark. these kids now a days dont ever leave the house unless their going to fucking gamestop. kids are too damn soft now.


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    #14159074 - 03/21/11 12:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

No need to get the police involved, in my opinion. Act like a parent so the popo don't have to.


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    #14159107 - 03/21/11 12:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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No need to get the police involved, in my opinion. Act like a parent so the popo don't have to.





They broke the kids jaw.

I wouldnt shelter my kid from the consequences of their actions.

If they are tough enough to beat up on a little kid and injure him, they should be tough enough to deal with it.


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    #14159125 - 03/21/11 12:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

He raised these shitheads, he should deal with it. The police wont do anything he couldn't do on his own like a responsible parent.


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    #14159136 - 03/21/11 12:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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No, the father should handle it himself. He raised these shitheads, he should deal with it. The police wont do anything he couldn't do on his own like a responsible parent.





Did i say he shouldnt deal with it?

I said he shouldnt shelter his kids from the legal ramifications of their actions.


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    #14159205 - 03/21/11 01:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, they should have to pay every dime back that the kid needs to get his jaw fixed, which I'm sure their sold horsey and car will help do. No disagreement there with that kind of legal ramification. They should have to do a lot more, I'm personally a fan of the indentured servant punishment Pris was talking about. Though, I'm still of the opinion there is absolutely no need to involve the police in to what should be parental situations for minors. What is the point? So now your children will be charged, possibly, with assault; be put in the system at 15 and 17, all for something that you should've handled mutually with the other kid's parents. Last thing we need is more legal action in this world.


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    #14159243 - 03/21/11 01:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Yeah, they should have to pay every dime back that the kid needs to get his jaw fixed, which I'm sure their sold horsey and car will help do. No disagreement there with that kind of legal ramification. They should have to do a lot more, I'm personally a fan of the indentured servant punishment Pris was talking about. Though, I'm still of the opinion there is absolutely no need to involve the police in to what should be parental situations for minors. What is the point? So now your children will be charged, possibly, with assault; be put in the system at 15 and 17, all for something that you should've handled mutually with the other kid's parents. Last thing we need is more legal action in this world.





then the kids grow up with the thinking that daddy can protect them from the law.

its not like he turned them in from drugs or theft, things that dont really need the police involved. They broke a 13 year old kids jaw.


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    #14159287 - 03/21/11 01:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The days of police teaching lessons through necessary and controlled means is gone. These days, police just throw as many charges as they can at you, see what sticks and collect the money that comes with the charges. It's all about the money and if you think any different you are in la-la land. I'm willing to bet this guy is that same tired mentality you see on the local 4'o clock news every so often when Moms and Dads call police on little Johnny because they found weed in his pocket. Not too long ago I saw a news story where a Mom found out where an 'underage drinking party' her son was going to be at was and with the intentions of teaching him a lesson she called the police. They came, found weed and paraphernalia on him and then the judge sentenced him to a year in prison. Be a parent, teach lessons, teach good morals, and be responsible for the little shitheads you raise. I agree with everything this Dad did and more, but I don't agree with involving police.


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    #14159293 - 03/21/11 01:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

dealing with the police and assault charges is a very real part of getting into fights and actually doing assaults.

so if these little fuckers really think they want to go around beating the shit out of kids they better get used to dealing with the cops, cause jail is exactly where fighting will get you. it's a proper punishment from the dad IMO.


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    #14160509 - 03/21/11 05:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i was bullied and had a broken home too.

its pretty much bull, but yes, its better than the father taking them home and beating their asses as i would have received. even happened when i received a C on my spanish progress report, in front of the entire baseball team. my parent only wonder why i used to trip my balls off and was socially retarded.(yet was not punished for that)

yet somehow the earlier cured the latter.

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    #14160616 - 03/21/11 06:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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its not like he turned them in from drugs or theft, things that dont really need the police involved. They broke a 13 year old kids jaw.





theft doesnt need police involvement, I agree 100%, that's why I'm all for
chopping off the hands of thieves, not just one but both hands, if they
manage to steal again, kill them because they've proven they dont belong in
society... so what kind of punishment should thieves receive in your opinion
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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14160649 - 03/21/11 06:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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its not like he turned them in from drugs or theft, things that dont really need the police involved. They broke a 13 year old kids jaw.





theft doesnt need police involvement, I agree 100%, that's why I'm all for
chopping off the hands of thieves, not just one but both hands, if they
manage to steal again, kill them because they've proven they dont belong in
society... so what kind of punishment should thieves receive in your opinion
or are you one of those that think stealing shouldnt be a crime




:doublefacepalm:

So they should be killed just cause they dont wanna play by the rules of society which is really just a game when you think about it.


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14160663 - 03/21/11 06:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It's not a game to steal people's things...
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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14160676 - 03/21/11 06:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Im not saying its okay to steal but two wrongs dont make a right.


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14160684 - 03/21/11 06:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Of course the second wrong could be a great deterrent for hundreds of other wrongs.


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14160702 - 03/21/11 06:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

What a shitty father. Maybe he should try actually parenting instead of getting the state to do it for him.


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    #14160725 - 03/21/11 06:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Have you ever had out of control kids who beat the shit out of nerds? Would you know how to deal with them?


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    #14160734 - 03/21/11 06:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Have you ever had out of control kids who beat the shit out of nerds? Would you know how to deal with them?



I'm basically raising someone elses kids now because my friends are such pieces of shit.

I'd have kicked the crap out of them, sold everything they had, and forced them to work off restitution.

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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: blewmeanie]
    #14160745 - 03/21/11 06:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I think taking the kids to the police was the right thing to do. It sends the message that actions like these have serious consequences even if you've moved out of your parents' place.


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14160819 - 03/21/11 06:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Im not saying its okay to steal but two wrongs dont make a right.





how's it two wrongs? if I rob your hows you're gonna be cool with it, Bev
says it shouldnt be turned over to the police, I agreed, I figure I should
handle it myself, if a man with no hands steals from me again he obviously
has a serious problem because he knows I'm not going to be pleasant to deal
with, he must have wanted to de or he wouldnt have done it, I'm just granting
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    #14160826 - 03/21/11 06:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Have you ever had out of control kids who beat the shit out of nerds? Would you know how to deal with them?





yup... make them nerd slaves but shouldnt the focus really be on prevention?


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14160962 - 03/21/11 07:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Father turns in own kids for bullying

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An Ipswich father claims he was so irate when he caught his two children attacking another that he turned them into police to be charged.

The father, known only as Matt, told Brisbane radio station 97.3FM he witnessed his 17-year-old son and 15-year-old daughter bashing a 13-year-old boy, breaking his jaw, because he wore glasses.

Enraged after experiencing similar bullying in his childhood, he marched his children to a police station to have them charged with assault.

He said he also sold his son’s car and daughter’s horse as further punishment.

"Yesterday afternoon I’m on my way home ... come ‘round the corner three streets from home [and] there’s my 17-year-old son and my 15-year-old daughter and they are fair beating the living crap out of this kid," he said.

"I pulled up, I damaged the car [as] I put the car up the gutter. I grabbed a hold of both of them, threw them in the back of the car, got the young kid that they were beating up ... took him home to his parents [and] marched both my kids into the local police station.

"They have both now been charged with assault."

.........

He said it was not the first time the teens had bullied the younger boy.

“About three weeks ago it was brought to my attention, through the school they attend, that they have been bullying a child at school,” he said.

The children later admitted to bullying the younger teen because he wore glasses, the same reason their father was bullied as a child.

.........

The father said he and his wife would stand behind the parents of the bullied child if they pressed ahead with the charges.




Basically I wonder, what would you do in this situation if you were the dad?  Obviously it was very serious bullying if they broke the kids jaw, they certainly deserve some serious discipline for it, but I have problems with parents turning their on children in to the police for anything short of murder.  Personally, I'd probably do everything the dad did except for the part where he drives them to the police station.  I'd probably leave it up to the parents of the other kid to report it to the police if they wanted to.  How about you?

Another opinion of mine: picking on someone for wearing glasses is probably the stupidest reason to pick on someone that I can imagine.




it sounds to me that the father was actually the reason they were bullying this kid


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    #14160979 - 03/21/11 07:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

How did you come up with that?


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: igwna]
    #14160993 - 03/21/11 07:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

What would I do? I'll tell you what I would do..

I would slam on the breaks and promptly get out the vehicle. That way the little bastards know an impending doom is seconds away . If they didn't stop the beating at the sound of my breaks going off, I'd beat them over the head with my fire breathing fists.

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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14161009 - 03/21/11 07:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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How did you come up with that?




he sounds real strict and maybe a bit of a douchebag to his kids. especially if he brought them to the police station himself.

also, beating someone up for wearing glasses is fucking retarded and i doubt someone came up with the idea on a whim.

the father wears glasses so it seems like they were taking out aggression for their father on the other kid.


i'm no expert, just seems that way.


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14161052 - 03/21/11 07:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Have you ever had out of control kids who beat the shit out of nerds? Would you know how to deal with them?





yup... make them nerd slaves but shouldnt the focus really be on prevention?


How is turning your own kids in not a form of prevention?


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    #14161076 - 03/21/11 07:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Of course the second wrong could be a great deterrent for hundreds of other wrongs.




Control people through terror, Greeeeaaat :super:


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Re: Father turns in own kids for bullying - What would you do? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14161156 - 03/21/11 07:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Solve all your problems with violence, greeeaaat. :super:


It's not like this sort of behavior has been holding humanity back for ages...:rolleyes:


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    #14161257 - 03/21/11 08:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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How did you come up with that?




he sounds real strict and maybe a bit of a douchebag to his kids. especially if he brought them to the police station himself.

also, beating someone up for wearing glasses is fucking retarded and i doubt someone came up with the idea on a whim.

the father wears glasses so it seems like they were taking out aggression for their father on the other kid.


i'm no expert, just seems that way.




Ah ok, I see your reasoning there.  The full article gave me the impression that the dad doesn't wear glasses anymore (maybe he got contacts or lasik?) but he used to when he was in school, so I don't think they were taking out aggression for their dad on the kid just because he had glasses. 

Does being strict make kids mean? My parents weren't really strict so idk...I would think that if they were that terrible then he wasn't strict enough?  I don't have kids though so I can't speak from experience.


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    #14161280 - 03/21/11 08:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Have you ever had out of control kids who beat the shit out of nerds? Would you know how to deal with them?





yup... make them nerd slaves but shouldnt the focus really be on prevention?


How is turning your own kids in not a form of prevention?





prevention meant you stop it from happening, did the kids not beat the 13yo,
did they not break his jaw? seems that prevention doesnt come after the fact


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    #14161292 - 03/21/11 08:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Of course the second wrong could be a great deterrent for hundreds of other wrongs.




Control people through terror, Greeeeaaat :super:





it's not terror, it's action... when you know there's a severe consequence
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Have you ever had out of control kids who beat the shit out of nerds? Would you know how to deal with them?





yup... make them nerd slaves but shouldnt the focus really be on prevention?


How is turning your own kids in not a form of prevention?





prevention meant you stop it from happening...


Why should the focus only be on prevention, then? And what makes you think that this type of thing is easy to prevent? Sometimes kids do what they want regardless of the consequences. :shrug:


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...did the kids not beat the 13yo, did they not break his jaw? seems that prevention doesnt come after the fact


Punishing them will likely prevent it from happening again.


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Have you ever had out of control kids who beat the shit out of nerds? Would you know how to deal with them?





yup... make them nerd slaves but shouldnt the focus really be on prevention?


How is turning your own kids in not a form of prevention?



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Of course the second wrong could be a great deterrent for hundreds of other wrongs.




Control people through terror, Greeeeaaat :super:





it's not terror, it's action... when you know there's a severe consequence
when you get caught what are the odds you're going to do it




Its reactionary, people will continue to do it regardless of the consequences and chopping peoples hands off isnt gonna solve anything other then satiating some childish desire for revenge.


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