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Why is Marijuana Illegal?
#14153528 - 03/20/11 12:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Straight factual answer please, the answer in the book itself.
Marijuana is illegal because____________________.
I don't know it.
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: LoveOverAll]
#14153536 - 03/20/11 12:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: LoveOverAll]
#14153546 - 03/20/11 12:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Lots of reasons.
The Christians, for one, who were responsible for outlawing alcohol too.
Another would be the guy who led a smear campaign on weed because hemp was a much cheaper way to make paper, and it would have put his paper company out of business.
It was also associated with the hippie movement, which in turn is associated with a bunch of kids dropping out of school, burning their draft cards, and not contributing to society.
And now it's far more associated with black culture, which scares the pretty white people.
I'm pretty sure there are a lot more.
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: LoveOverAll]
#14153550 - 03/20/11 12:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Marijuana is illegal because ... lawmakers passed laws making it illegal.
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: DieCommie]
#14153567 - 03/20/11 12:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Example: it is illegal because it...
causes diseases
is harmful to you
it is dangerous
affects your ability to think rationally
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: LoveOverAll]
#14153571 - 03/20/11 12:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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at first racisim.
and now, money
done and done.
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: LoveOverAll]
#14153573 - 03/20/11 12:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Marijuana is illegal because so many people never ask the same question.
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: LoveOverAll]
#14153584 - 03/20/11 12:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Mainly because the owner of Dupont plastics was family of Harry Angslinger, the head of the drug task force back in the 30's. Dupont's main competition against plastics was the hemp industry which could outperform plastics in every way.
Also its a great way to arrest stinky mexicans.
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: LoveOverAll]
#14153588 - 03/20/11 12:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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What diseases can Cannabis cause?
I'm banking on sarcasm but you can never be to careful.
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: LoveOverAll]
#14153595 - 03/20/11 12:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Because, at the end of Prohibition in the 30's, Harry Anslinger and J. Edgar Hoover wanted to give their agents something to do (no shit!) and of course, it targeted Hispanics and blacks so it was win-win for these two assholes.
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: Le_Canard]
#14158395 - 03/21/11 09:05 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Marijuana is illegal (because, at the end of Prohibition in the 30's, Harry Anslinger and J. Edgar Hoover wanted to give their agents something to do (no shit!) and of course, it targeted Hispanics and blacks so it was win-win for these two assholes.)

Not the answer i had in mind. So there is no real answer to this question? Is it not written down anywhere? Anyone see anything wrong here? Normally when something is illegal there is a reason why it is illegal.
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: LoveOverAll]
#14158404 - 03/21/11 09:08 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Because it is to healthy and the best medicine around the world. Big pharma can lose lots of money if people dont need their medicines and get an good health.
we all know where tax money goes..... Fill in the rest
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: LoveOverAll]
#14158415 - 03/21/11 09:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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There is no single, real reason for it. Any attempts at identifying that reason are efforts of post-hoc sensemaking that result in the best case in credible motives or causal paths that have led to the present situation.
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So there is no real answer to this question?
There are many answers, all of which are real if that's what you consider them to be.
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: koraks]
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: henk600]
#14158476 - 03/21/11 09:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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henk600 said: Because it is to healthy and the best medicine around the world. Big pharma can lose lots of money if people dont need their medicines and get an good health.
we all know where tax money goes..... Fill in the rest
Not only pharma but other types of business like logging. Hemp makes paper much better than trees, because it can be grown en masse and makes paper much more efficiently.
It's all about the $$$. It's good for business if weed is illegal.
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: smokesnugz]
#14158479 - 03/21/11 09:32 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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smokesnugz said: What diseases can Cannabis cause?
I'm banking on sarcasm but you can never be to careful.
Well if you are smoking it, inhaling any kind of smoke into your lungs can put you at risk for cardiovascular diseases among other problems.
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: Equipto]
#14158487 - 03/21/11 09:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Diesel and cotton got in the way
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: Equipto]
#14158506 - 03/21/11 09:39 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Equipto said:
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smokesnugz said: What diseases can Cannabis cause?
I'm banking on sarcasm but you can never be to careful.
Well if you are smoking it, inhaling any kind of smoke into your lungs can put you at risk for cardiovascular diseases among other problems.
Troll? There is all kinds of info on this propaganda that "smoke is smoke" Some smoke will kill you in one lung full. Some smoke like cigarette smoke kills you very slowly over a looong period of time. By the way, cigarette smoke kills you because it has radioactive lead and polonium in it from the chemical fertilizers that are used. Lead 210 stays in your body and over time builds until you get the cancer.
Weed smoke is virtually harmless, not to mention THC protects the lungs against cancer anyway.
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: LoveOverAll]
#14158516 - 03/21/11 09:42 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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because it was a threat to government and corporate interests.
IMO theres no 1 reason, its a collection of reasons that made it not wanted by several large corporations who pay off / lobby governments who also don't like it because of its threat against control of the populace.

In todays world legalising pot would destroy the pharm industry profits and they are the biggest drug dealers so they will pay our governments as much as takes to keep it out of the picture.
Some of our UK politicians were caught a few months back stating they could have laws made or abolished for large enough party donations. So that right there tells you how it goes down. Corruption by money - as always.
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: LoveOverAll]
#14158874 - 03/21/11 11:36 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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theblackhole said: Marijuana is illegal (because, at the end of Prohibition in the 30's, Harry Anslinger and J. Edgar Hoover wanted to give their agents something to do (no shit!) and of course, it targeted Hispanics and blacks so it was win-win for these two assholes.)

Not the answer i had in mind. So there is no real answer to this question? Is it not written down anywhere? Anyone see anything wrong here? Normally when something is illegal there is a reason why it is illegal.
Well, what's your answer?
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: Le_Canard]
#14158892 - 03/21/11 11:40 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just another reason:
You can't patent a plant, so giant companies technically couldn't make a huge income off of hemp. I mean yes you could sell it, but without a patent any company could do it. There'd be no monopolization = not enough money = corporate leaders whisper in congress ear that it wouldn't help their profit margin = there's no reason to legalize it
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: mikeisapro]
#14158902 - 03/21/11 11:42 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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smokesnugz said: What diseases can Cannabis cause?
I'm banking on sarcasm but you can never be to careful.
Well if you are smoking it, inhaling any kind of smoke into your lungs can put you at risk for cardiovascular diseases among other problems.
Troll? There is all kinds of info on this propaganda that "smoke is smoke" Some smoke will kill you in one lung full. Some smoke like cigarette smoke kills you very slowly over a looong period of time. By the way, cigarette smoke kills you because it has radioactive lead and polonium in it from the chemical fertilizers that are used. Lead 210 stays in your body and over time builds until you get the cancer.
Weed smoke is virtually harmless, not to mention THC protects the lungs against cancer anyway.
Weed isn't that bad to smoke but it is harmful just because it is a combustion product - he's not trollin'. It still has carbon monoxide in the vapors at the least.
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: twighead]
#14158915 - 03/21/11 11:44 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Breathing the air in a big city is probably worse for you then smoking weed.
And if we're talking health, eating a Big Mac is about 800x worse for you then smoking weed.
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: pfxtc]
#14158923 - 03/21/11 11:46 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah probably just pointing out that it isn't completely without harm.
Now vaping on the other hand...
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: mikeisapro]
#14159019 - 03/21/11 12:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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smokesnugz said: What diseases can Cannabis cause?
I'm banking on sarcasm but you can never be to careful.
Well if you are smoking it, inhaling any kind of smoke into your lungs can put you at risk for cardiovascular diseases among other problems.
Troll? There is all kinds of info on this propaganda that "smoke is smoke" Some smoke will kill you in one lung full. Some smoke like cigarette smoke kills you very slowly over a looong period of time. By the way, cigarette smoke kills you because it has radioactive lead and polonium in it from the chemical fertilizers that are used. Lead 210 stays in your body and over time builds until you get the cancer.
Weed smoke is virtually harmless, not to mention THC protects the lungs against cancer anyway.
You're so fucking naive. Sure, cigarette smoke is more likely to cause cancer, but marijuana smoke has 3 times the tar per weight. Of course one smokes a lot more weight of tobacco in an average day than marijuana. So it probably works out to about equal. But if you don't think coating your lungs in tar is going to effect your heath, you're incredibly stupid.
Now if you just eat or vaporize your weed, you shouldn't experience any health effects whatsoever. But smoking anything is unhealthy. I don't care if it's weed, cigarettes, or the grass in your back yard.
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: BothHands]
#14159046 - 03/21/11 12:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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BothHands said: Sure, cigarette smoke is more likely to cause cancer, but marijuana smoke has 3 times the tar per weight. Of course one smokes a lot more weight of tobacco in an average day than marijuana. So it probably works out to about equal. But if you don't think coating your lungs in tar is going to effect your heath, you're incredibly stupid.
Now if you just eat or vaporize your weed, you shouldn't experience any health effects whatsoever. But smoking anything is unhealthy. I don't care if it's weed, cigarettes, or the grass in your back yard.
True.
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: s240779]
#14159088 - 03/21/11 12:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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William Randolph Hearst also played a part in it becoming illegal I'm pretty sure.
He owned a vast majority of paper mills, and back then hemp was being talking about as a cheaper route than paper, so he helped with the smear campaign as well.
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: x Ju x]
#14159127 - 03/21/11 12:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sure, cigarette smoke is more likely to cause cancer, but marijuana smoke has 3 times the tar per weight.
Sorry,but cannabis dont contains tar.
The propaganda even said 1 joint is like smoking 20 cigarettes, but cannabis with tar is impossible. They mix tabacco with tar,its not natural.
Smoking tabacco is much worst then smoking a pure joint.
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: henk600]
#14159138 - 03/21/11 12:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Cannabinoids are oils or something close to it and marijuana smoke is essentially this oil or rQuote:
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Sure, cigarette smoke is more likely to cause cancer, but marijuana smoke has 3 times the tar per weight.
Sorry,but cannabis dont contains tar.
Well even if it isn't "tar," cannabinoids are oils or resins or something, which are thick, fatty substances, and weed smoke is essentially a gasified version of that. Hav eyou ever used a bong made out of a plastic bottle over an extended period of time and this yellow brown stciky stuff collects on the sides? So whatever you wanna call it, weed smoke does have more "heavy stuff" than cigarette smoke. However cigarette smoke is a lot more harsh and a lot more toxic.
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: s240779]
#14159151 - 03/21/11 12:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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That is oil from the cannabis it self,but not tar.
Thc also helps kill cancer cells they discovered. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/04/070417193338.htm
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: henk600]
#14159213 - 03/21/11 01:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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henk600 said: That is oil from the cannabis it self,but not tar.
You basically completely ignored my post. I don't even know what you're trying to say.
First of all I said that "tar" may not be the most accurate word.
Second of all, the psychoactive chemicals in weed are called cannabinoids, and cannabinoids are oils (or at least something very similar).
Oils are "heavy" or 'dense" for lack of a better description and the smoke of combusted oils deposits more onto surface areas (like your lungs.)
Cigarette smoke is less dense than weed smoke because it simply doesn't have as much oil/resin/whatever.
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: LoveOverAll]
#14159238 - 03/21/11 01:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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it was an easy way to deport mexicans way back in the day. just like opium was an easy way to deport chinese.
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: Leanin]
#14159255 - 03/21/11 01:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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My excuses Superhigh, i readed it wrong. My english grammar sucks as my first language is dutch.
My excuses for that.
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: LoveOverAll]
#14159313 - 03/21/11 01:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Marijuana is illegal because the big drug companies can't make any money from it when Joe Blow can grow some in his basement.
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DrunkenAttempt said: Marijuana is illegal because the big drug companies can't make any money from it when Joe Blow can grow some in his basement.
Big drug companies ARE making money from it
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: henk600]
#14159337 - 03/21/11 01:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sure, cigarette smoke is more likely to cause cancer, but marijuana smoke has 3 times the tar per weight.
Sorry,but cannabis dont contains tar.
The propaganda even said 1 joint is like smoking 20 cigarettes, but cannabis with tar is impossible. They mix tabacco with tar,its not natural.
Smoking tabacco is much worst then smoking a pure joint.
Tar is a byproduct of combusting any type of plant material.
Cigarretes may have added tar to change burning speed, but all combusted plant matter will have tar in its smoke.
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: mikeisapro]
#14159354 - 03/21/11 01:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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mikeisapro said:
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Equipto said:
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smokesnugz said: What diseases can Cannabis cause?
I'm banking on sarcasm but you can never be to careful.
Well if you are smoking it, inhaling any kind of smoke into your lungs can put you at risk for cardiovascular diseases among other problems.
Troll? There is all kinds of info on this propaganda that "smoke is smoke" Some smoke will kill you in one lung full. Some smoke like cigarette smoke kills you very slowly over a looong period of time. By the way, cigarette smoke kills you because it has radioactive lead and polonium in it from the chemical fertilizers that are used. Lead 210 stays in your body and over time builds until you get the cancer.
Weed smoke is virtually harmless, not to mention THC protects the lungs against cancer anyway.
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: Equipto]
#14159367 - 03/21/11 01:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Marihuana is illegal because we didnt flood the streets in protests for days in all major cities.
If we would do like they are doin in middle east right now. Marijuana would be legal in no time.
We are just too busy/not motivated to go in the streets and protest.
If a group stood up long enough, it would create a hype and people would join the crowd just because the crowd is there.
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Re: Why is Marijuana Illegal? [Re: misterogerz]
#14161412 - 03/21/11 08:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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misterogerz said: http://www.chieftain.com/news/local/article_ba21ef7e-3563-11df-9d83-001cc4c002e0.html
"But one thing is clear: Marijuana was made illegal by subterfuge, racism, corporate greed and coercion."
that's by, not why.
I;m thinking like in a climatic scenario here where we people rush up in the congress government what have you, and demand to know why it is illegal and if they dont come up with something then they should have to uncriminalize it, after all it's what we the people want right?
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