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Offlineakira_akuma
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Re: Bombing Libya is Bullshit [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #14154014 - 03/20/11 01:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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EntheogenicPeace said:
From a legalistic perspective, yes. From an ethical perspective, no; I am only a citizen of the world.



well, that says it all.

see, pris you really aren't gonna change his mind, i think he'd practically agree with you, that morally, gadafi is wrong.

right, Peace? :shrug:

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We're only keeping Libyan forces from moving in on people that can't defend them selves.... so far..





what percentage of the people wanted a change in power, obviously not the
whole country since he rebellion toppled so quickly, so was it 10%, maybe 5%



sorry if i cut you off.
*quoted for relevence*


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Re: Bombing Libya is Bullshit [Re: akira_akuma]
    #14154027 - 03/20/11 01:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

by who's set of morals is Queerdaffi wrong


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Re: Bombing Libya is Bullshit [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14154050 - 03/20/11 02:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

why can't some people live communally; while some people live in capitalist society? without people from opportunistic governments and corperations and COUNTRIES going over to other countries and removing their rights, money, resources and way of life?
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by who's set of morals is Queerdaffi wrong



yours, appearntly? i don't know if i've read all your posts... but i saw alot of posts that were basically saying that Queerdaffi* was right to be getting killed. i assumed from what you were saying too, that you thought it was justified. :shrug:

* i see what you did there


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Re: Bombing Libya is Bullshit [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #14154067 - 03/20/11 02:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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We're not "at war" with Libya, so no approval is needed. We're targeting radar and missile sites.

brah




Really?  Because we've already killed over 60 innocent civillians according to accounts from inside Libya.

When you drop bombs on people it's war.

Sorry.  It just is.




No, in your opinion it's war, and your opinion doesn't mean much.




Oh please holy one, fucking enlighten me then, just what is war?


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Re: Bombing Libya is Bullshit [Re: amilibertine]
    #14154081 - 03/20/11 02:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

oh wait, so you want Queerdaffi out of power, so that we can help the people instill new government power?

is that it Prisoner? is that your contention?:stoned:


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Re: Bombing Libya is Bullshit [Re: akira_akuma]
    #14154098 - 03/20/11 02:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
why can't some people live communally; while some people live in capitalist society? without people from opportunistic governments and corperations and COUNTRIES going over to other countries and removing their rights, money, resources and way of life?
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Prisoner#1 said:
by who's set of morals is Queerdaffi wrong



yours, appearntly? i don't know if i've read all your posts... but i saw alot of posts that were basically saying that Queerdaffi* was right to be getting killed. i assumed from what you were saying too, that you thought it was justified. :shrug:

* i see what you did there





killing one is wrong but killing the other is just... see how convoluted hippie morality is



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Re: Bombing Libya is Bullshit [Re: akira_akuma]
    #14154108 - 03/20/11 02:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Gaddafi DOES need to die. We could save a lot of time, money and trouble by sending in the SAS/SEALs to fuck Gaddafi up personally. Why is assassination forbidden again? Ah, yeah, because it doesn't create such a good firework show.


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Re: Bombing Libya is Bullshit [Re: akira_akuma]
    #14154110 - 03/20/11 02:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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oh wait, so you want Queerdaffi out of power, so that we can help the people instill new government power?

is that it Prisoner? is that your contention?:stoned:





my contention is that I dont live there and it's not my fight, I could give
two shits who's in power in the region but I find it ironic that bush bombing
baghdad was evil and Obama bombing tripoli is justified


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Re: Bombing Libya is Bullshit [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14154117 - 03/20/11 02:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

don't wanan kill anybody. i hate killing. except when i see things that make me enraged. :crazy2:

so what is your point, Prisoner?

i mean, i think i got it... i was sorta playing devils advocate here.
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akira_akuma said:
oh wait, so you want Queerdaffi out of power, so that we can help the people instill new government power?

is that it Prisoner? is that your contention?:stoned:





my contention is that I dont live there and it's not my fight, I could give
two shits who's in power in the region but I find it ironic that bush bombing
baghdad was evil and Obama bombing tripoli is justified



ironic? how?

HOW IS IT IRONIC?

DAMN IT MAN, I WANT THE TRUTH!!


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Re: Bombing Libya is Bullshit [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14154123 - 03/20/11 02:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
oh wait, so you want Queerdaffi out of power, so that we can help the people instill new government power?

is that it Prisoner? is that your contention?:stoned:





my contention is that I dont live there and it's not my fight, I could give
two shits who's in power in the region but I find it ironic that bush bombing
baghdad was evil and Obama bombing tripoli is justified




Why do you find it ironic? I don't agree with either bombing (or any bombing for that matter) but the pretext for war with Iraq was utterly false. At least here the idea is to protect innocents rather than just the vague threat that a dictator "might" be creating WMDs.


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Re: Bombing Libya is Bullshit [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #14154125 - 03/20/11 02:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Gaddafi DOES need to die.





why?


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Re: Bombing Libya is Bullshit [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14154128 - 03/20/11 02:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Because he's utterly insane, a war criminal and most of all a POLITICIAN.


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Re: Bombing Libya is Bullshit [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #14154132 - 03/20/11 02:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
oh wait, so you want Queerdaffi out of power, so that we can help the people instill new government power?

is that it Prisoner? is that your contention?:stoned:





my contention is that I dont live there and it's not my fight, I could give
two shits who's in power in the region but I find it ironic that bush bombing
baghdad was evil and Obama bombing tripoli is justified




That's correct.  It's none of our fucking business who is killing who.  Fucking half the countries in Africa are ruled by insane people who kill civilians and what do we do about them?  Oh yeah, that's right, nothing (or at the very least we sell them the weapons to kill each other with).  The difference between Libya and most of the those other countries is that Libya is rich in oil and natural gas. 

We'll be building military bases there in no time.


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Re: Bombing Libya is Bullshit [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #14154136 - 03/20/11 02:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Because he's utterly insane, a war criminal and most of all a POLITICIAN.



i agree that he should not be... alive to do what he is doing... not saying that he should be dead entirely though.

take that however you will.


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Re: Bombing Libya is Bullshit [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #14154141 - 03/20/11 02:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Because he's utterly insane, a war criminal and most of all a POLITICIAN.




Wow, that narrows the list down. You could say that about almost American president of the last 35 years. Or the leaders of countless other nations.


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Re: Bombing Libya is Bullshit [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #14154145 - 03/20/11 02:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
oh wait, so you want Queerdaffi out of power, so that we can help the people instill new government power?

is that it Prisoner? is that your contention?:stoned:





my contention is that I dont live there and it's not my fight, I could give
two shits who's in power in the region but I find it ironic that bush bombing
baghdad was evil and Obama bombing tripoli is justified




Why do you find it ironic? I don't agree with either bombing (or any bombing for that matter) but the pretext for war with Iraq was utterly false. At least here the idea is to protect innocents rather than just the vague threat that a dictator "might" be creating WMDs.





well there you go looking at only one small portion of why we invaded
iraq, dont you recall that saddam was bombing his own people? this was a
result of saddam's wmds

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Anfal_Campaign


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Re: Bombing Libya is Bullshit [Re: akira_akuma]
    #14154151 - 03/20/11 02:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Well, I'm also in favour of him being tarred and feathered, strung upside down and possibly raped by numerous farm animals and/or camels.

@Pris, Touche.


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Re: Bombing Libya is Bullshit [Re: amilibertine]
    #14154154 - 03/20/11 02:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Because he's utterly insane, a war criminal and most of all a POLITICIAN.




Wow, that narrows the list down. You could say that about almost American president of the last 35 years. Or the leaders of countless other nations.




Exactly.


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Re: Bombing Libya is Bullshit [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14154161 - 03/20/11 02:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

he meant that all politians are THAT.

that which you just noted.
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Prisoner#1 said:
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oh wait, so you want Queerdaffi out of power, so that we can help the people instill new government power?

is that it Prisoner? is that your contention?:stoned:





my contention is that I dont live there and it's not my fight, I could give
two shits who's in power in the region but I find it ironic that bush bombing
baghdad was evil and Obama bombing tripoli is justified




Why do you find it ironic? I don't agree with either bombing (or any bombing for that matter) but the pretext for war with Iraq was utterly false. At least here the idea is to protect innocents rather than just the vague threat that a dictator "might" be creating WMDs.





well there you go looking at only one small portion of why we invaded
iraq, dont you recall that saddam was bombing his own people? this was a
result of saddam's wmds

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack




hmmm? why do you contend that other people be left to their own devices abroad the globe, yet feel like your own government is being run the same way, as the one's you feel not to protest?

why?


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Re: Bombing Libya is Bullshit [Re: amilibertine]
    #14154182 - 03/20/11 02:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack Date March 16–17, 1988


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Anfal_Campaign ; Date 1986 — 1989


looks like we got there just in time Pris:rolleyes:


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