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Kada
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Re: Bombing Libya is Bullshit [Re: Rebirtha]
#14152794 - 03/20/11 08:54 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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He was bombing civilians and killing anyone who opposed him. Haven't you watched any of his interviews? He's a fucking madman doing anything he can to stay in power.
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Re: Bombing Libya is Bullshit [Re: Kada]
#14152798 - 03/20/11 08:55 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Soon they will be as free as the Iraqis.
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Re: Bombing Libya is Bullshit [Re: Kada]
#14152804 - 03/20/11 08:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Kada said: War is necessary. Stopping insane leaders who are hell bent on murder SHOULD be the job of the people most capable of stopping him. That would be us.
And FUCK YES I would hope another nation would intervene in the US if our leaders started murdering civilians to keep their corrupted power. I would thank them not condemn them.
We are actually doing good by going after his forces.
Non-violent, innocent people in America are being sent to prisons where they are raped and tortured for owning plants. I guess we need foreign troops (maybe from Amsterdam) to save us. But if they're anything like our troops, while you're trying to thank them they'll be blowing up your house, stealing your shit, and probably raping your sister.
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He's fucking crazy and delusional. He brought it on himself with his words and actions. I dread to think what would go down over there if he was left alone.
He's been behind terror attacks in the past. fuck this guy.
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Agreed. We have no business being in there. France the UK and Canada surely can take care of that shit. No reason for us to poke our head in there so we can say...
FIRST.
I doubt we will only be involved in the first wave of attacks. God forbid Libya fights back.
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TheFakeSunRa said:
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Kada said: War is necessary. Stopping insane leaders who are hell bent on murder SHOULD be the job of the people most capable of stopping him. That would be us.
And FUCK YES I would hope another nation would intervene in the US if our leaders started murdering civilians to keep their corrupted power. I would thank them not condemn them.
We are actually doing good by going after his forces.
Non-violent, innocent people in America are being sent to prisons where they are raped and tortured for owning plants. I guess we need foreign troops (maybe from Amsterdam) to save us. But if they're anything like our troops, while you're trying to thank them they'll be blowing up your house, stealing your shit, and probably raping your sister.
Exactly. Isnt war just such a great and efficient way of solving problems?
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Re: Bombing Libya is Bullshit [Re: Mike_yy]
#14152819 - 03/20/11 09:01 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Mikeh said: He's fucking crazy and delusional. He brought it on himself with his words and actions. I dread to think what would go down over there if he was left alone.
He's been behind terror attacks in the past. fuck this guy.
Are you talking about Bush or Obama?
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Kada
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Re: Bombing Libya is Bullshit [Re: The_Ghost]
#14152823 - 03/20/11 09:02 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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It is actually. Violence DOES solve problems where peace has already failed.
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Rebirtha
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Re: Bombing Libya is Bullshit [Re: Rebirtha] 1
#14152827 - 03/20/11 09:03 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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The main problem I have is that the US loves to spread its democracy, and choose sides. It has a long history of supporting rebel groups and propping up a political leader. In many cases that political leaders have turned into dictators, who then bomb again! In 1989-1992 the U.S. conducted ops to bring down the government in Afghanistan, including using cluster bombs on civilians. Go back to 1984 and US-backed Afghan rebels are firing on a civilian airliner. In the same period, the US provided the weapons for the Sudanese Civil War in 1983-2005, which killed 2million civilians, and displaced 4million more to starvation and deprivation. But you know, we do this for humanitarian reasons and the weapons were necessary.
And who forget Mubarak who we have helped propped up in Egypt giving him over 70 billion dollars over 30 years, only to have him overthrown by his own people.
We enter civil wars, supply weapons, then prop up a leader. The citizens of a country should elect their own leaders. Just look at the history of Iraq, Iran, and Saudi Arabia. We prop up one country, and then when they turn 'evil' we support the other side.
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Re: Bombing Libya is Bullshit [Re: DeadHearts]
#14152832 - 03/20/11 09:04 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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i thought it interesting that Gaddafi invoked "the Crusades" in his response to the U.N. attacks. In the Muslim world, the Crusades are an immediate flash point and invoking them is a quick and easy way to send out a loaded message to the rest of the Muslim world.
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Re: Bombing Libya is Bullshit [Re: gerryjarcia]
#14152843 - 03/20/11 09:08 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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gerryjarcia said: i thought it interesting that Gaddafi invoked "the Crusades" in his response to the U.N. attacks. In the Muslim world, the Crusades are an immediate flash point and invoking them is a quick and easy way to send out a loaded message to the rest of the Muslim world.
People better not start fighting against the UN. Imagine a US plane being shot down. This could get nasty. But Im staying out of this shit. So sick of these pointless wars.
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Re: Bombing Libya is Bullshit [Re: gerryjarcia]
#14152858 - 03/20/11 09:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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gerryjarcia said: i thought it interesting that Gaddafi invoked "the Crusades" in his response to the U.N. attacks. In the Muslim world, the Crusades are an immediate flash point and invoking them is a quick and easy way to send out a loaded message to the rest of the Muslim world.
The rest of the Arab World is for the intervention.
The fucking Arab League voted for it.
The Arab League never agrees on anything.
The guy is a fucking pariah.
The only people who support him are his own family and ultra-liberals in the United States who think anything the US does is, by its very nature, wrong and criminal.
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Re: Bombing Libya is Bullshit [Re: DeadHearts]
#14152860 - 03/20/11 09:17 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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DeadHearts said: So sick of these pointless wars.
Not pointless, pretty clear cut.
To stop Ghadaffi from massacring the segment of his population engaged in revolt against his very long, very cruel, and very illegal rule.
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Madtowntripper said:
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DeadHearts said: So sick of these pointless wars.
Not pointless, pretty clear cut.
To stop Ghadaffi from massacring the segment of his population engaged in revolt against his very long, very cruel, and very illegal rule.
Pointless for us. Why do we have to be involved. We are spending billions in two other wars right now. What the fuck?
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Madtowntripper said:
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gerryjarcia said: i thought it interesting that Gaddafi invoked "the Crusades" in his response to the U.N. attacks. In the Muslim world, the Crusades are an immediate flash point and invoking them is a quick and easy way to send out a loaded message to the rest of the Muslim world.
The rest of the Arab World is for the intervention.
The fucking Arab League voted for it.
The Arab League never agrees on anything.
The guy is a fucking pariah.
The only people who support him are his own family and ultra-liberals in the United States who think anything the US does is, by its very nature, wrong and criminal.
So you support out past efforts to overthrow governments and install leaders... shah of iran, mubarak, RENAMO? "You support our war efforts of Sudan and the millions of lives we helped kill by choose the 'good' side... we obviously did more harm than good in that situation, and that is what people are afraid of. This isn't some stupid liberal government is evil bullshit, this is history repeating itself.
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Re: Bombing Libya is Bullshit [Re: DeadHearts]
#14152869 - 03/20/11 09:20 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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So seriously, you're worried about the money?
Who gives a fuck? They would have blown the money flying training sorties anyway.
But that's a real awesome attitude.
"Yeah, we could've saved the lives of tens of thousands of freedom-loving Libyans. But fuck, the economy and shit, ya know?"
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DeadHearts


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Madtowntripper said: So seriously, you're worried about the money?
Who gives a fuck? They would have blown the money flying training sorties anyway.
But that's a real awesome attitude.
"Yeah, we could've saved the lives of tens of thousands of freedom-loving Libyans. But fuck, the economy and shit, ya know?"
Listen. France the UK and Canada could easily do what we could ever do to Libya.
Someone else can do some of "the good deeds" of the world for once. We dont have to get in on everything. I dont know why you are defending it some much. Doesnt make sense.
What happens if there is a resistance of some sort?? Some US planes get shot down by ground forces. There is possibility for all out war that will cost lives and money.
Defend this shit all you want.
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I say we just blow up Qwadahfi's war infrastructure (tanks, planes, heavy artillery, etc...) and GTFO.
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Re: Bombing Libya is Bullshit [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#14152888 - 03/20/11 09:25 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Baby_Hitler said: I say we just blow up Qwadahfi's war infrastructure (tanks, planes, heavy artillery, etc...) and GTFO.
how bout France, Canada and the UK do it. And then they can GTFO?
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Re: Bombing Libya is Bullshit [Re: DeadHearts]
#14152897 - 03/20/11 09:28 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Either way.
Sooner is better than later.
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