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Level 5 trip
    #14152517 - 03/20/11 06:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I have been reading the trip reports sections and they sounds absolutely amazing. total ego loss contact with higher beings and self. sounds very much like an experience :smile:. My question is , is it possible to reach a level 5 trip on a mushroom such as p. cubensis? From what i have been told going on a cosmic space journey is only really achievable by ingesting cyans or azurescens , both having high amounts psilocybin.


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Re: Level 5 trip [Re: Blueflowers]
    #14152551 - 03/20/11 06:51 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I think there shouldn't be a problem.
I have never experienced a level 5 trip myself on B+ (the only strain I've grown till now.)
I'd say, start a grow because you'll need plenty of mushroom
and build up.
It think it's wiser to go with fresh mushrooms if you can handle them because at higher plateau trips the difference becomes noticeably bigger between dried & fresh. I find that fresh gives me something deeper; almost unexplainable but it certainly has it's impact on the trip. just start with 50 grams fresh. Still not where you want to be? Wait one or two weeks, and take 60.
I was able to handle 70 grams, in tea, without completely losing myself. [i was in my bed, lying down, look at my cushion, i was lying on a 6 meter deep cushion or something if i had to believe my depth perception] I don't have much trip experience but i think as long as you know what's going to happen to you and you're fine with it then you're safe to try this but still be careful and good luck!


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Re: Level 5 trip [Re: woutah]
    #14152772 - 03/20/11 08:45 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

If the amount of psilocybin/psilocin per mushroom is the issue, why wouldn't you just eat more cubes in order to equal the amount you would get from azures or cyans.

Now, that said, I think there are other active tryptophans at work here, and those are responsible for the "different" trip you may hear about from people eating azures or cyans.  Azures have a substantial amount of baeocystin and some norbaeocystin (when compared to cubes).  Cyans have somewhat less of those two additional tryptophans, but more still than cubes.  So there are quantities of those additional substances at work as well as (possibly) the ratio of all these substances to one another to think about.

I personally have had much more powerful experiences with cyans and cyanofriscosas, but I also haven't eaten cubes in about 3 decades, so my ability to compare is not a fair one.


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Re: Level 5 trip [Re: LanLord]
    #14152852 - 03/20/11 09:12 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah i was thinking from the beginning that azures and cyans would have some other chemical in them , if they didn't as you said you would only need to eat more cubes to get the same effect as azures or cyans, to achieve the same trip intensity. then again if you at 70 grams fresh cube like WOUTAH did you would probably have quite the ride:grin:


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Re: Level 5 trip [Re: Blueflowers]
    #14153304 - 03/20/11 11:26 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Blueflowers said:
I have been reading the trip reports sections and they sounds absolutely amazing. total ego loss contact with higher beings and self. sounds very much like an experience :smile:. My question is , is it possible to reach a level 5 trip on a mushroom such as p. cubensis? From what i have been told going on a cosmic space journey is only really achievable by ingesting cyans or azurescens , both having high amounts psilocybin.



Make sure your alone and have nobody else in the house cos you will come to, and you will think OMG what have i done. Your house will be a mess on total ego death......


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Re: Level 5 trip [Re: microdotty]
    #14153506 - 03/20/11 12:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Op... You can get to level 5 with any psilocybin/psilocin mushroom. But yes, there are other active compounds in mushrooms, and different levels and ratios of psilocybin/psilocin... Leading at least to the urban legend that different mushrooms or strains can lead to different experiences... Which seems reasonable....

Would say set and setting, preparation, other chemicals present in your body, method of ingestion, age and drying status, stomach contents, drying technique etc all potential to change the experience... And it seems that some people are more sensitive and some less to psilocybin/psilocin... So individual basis can be another factor....

Now... Not sure about the very weak mushrooms... P. Pelliculosa would be hard to physically ingest enough....


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Re: Level 5 trip [Re: HarryL]
    #14153548 - 03/20/11 12:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I would say make a tea out of them using limes or kool aid, and grind them up to a fine powder before you boil them. Good luck and happy shrooming.


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Re: Level 5 trip [Re: tonybeak]
    #14153553 - 03/20/11 12:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

And also remember to fast for at least 5 hours.


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Re: Level 5 trip [Re: tonybeak]
    #14153634 - 03/20/11 12:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Do total ego death with psilocybin but if your anything like me you'l regret it...... do 10 dried grams boil them up in a cup full of water and make a coffee out of it.... thats what i did last time i thought i'd died and smashed my house up.....


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