|
mushiepussy

Registered: 02/06/11
Posts: 1,198
Loc:
|
Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: Boheim]
#14152178 - 03/20/11 02:54 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Boheim said:
Quote:
superhigh said: Also by selling you provide them to people who wouldn't otherwise obtain them.
that is a decent point...but sharing them does as well.
making enough profit to keep the operation running is all that should be necessary IMO.
Well you obviously don't have bills to pay. Time isn't free in America. iluvfungi Why don't you just be a local dealer and sell to people you know? It works way better, but you have to have friends
|
Dosile Kouki
derp


Registered: 03/08/10
Posts: 14,963
Loc: Paradise
Last seen: 11 years, 7 months
|
Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: mushiepussy] 2
#14152180 - 03/20/11 02:56 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
dont break the law people.
being a criminal is not something that is cool or be looked up to.
none of you are desperate individuals with absolutely nothing else you can do in your life and thus resorting to selling drugs.
Dont be lazy and just take the easy option, because you will regret it later on when its too late.
--------------------
|
Boheim
Pondering Thangs



Registered: 06/12/10
Posts: 770
Loc: edge of the future
Last seen: 11 years, 7 months
|
Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: mushiepussy]
#14152190 - 03/20/11 03:00 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
mushiepussy said:
Quote:
Boheim said:
Quote:
superhigh said: Also by selling you provide them to people who wouldn't otherwise obtain them.
that is a decent point...but sharing them does as well.
making enough profit to keep the operation running is all that should be necessary IMO.
Well you obviously don't have bills to pay. Time isn't free in America. iluvfungi Why don't you just be a local dealer and sell to people you know? It works way better, but you have to have friends 
plenty of us pay bills and work before bothering with drugs...not every job is so low paying that one has to depend entirely on profit from sales.
if you have to do it,that's fine...but for some others,it is already risky enough growing,going out and selling bulk isn't always worth it.
-------------------- Není důležité co v životě děláš, hlavně že to dělaš. You can read books about mycology and taxonomy all your life, until you actually go out and hunt mushrooms you are nothing but a bloody n00b. Same goes for mushroom cultivation or any other subject. Theoretical knowledge is nothing without practical application of that knowledge. -German Kahuna
|
owls
just let go!


Registered: 02/22/09
Posts: 6,485
Loc: dancing
|
Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: Boheim]
#14152213 - 03/20/11 03:15 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
rofl
-------------------- i love you ♥ you are beautiful! COME TOGETHER, JOIN THE PARTY!! "what beith a man if he doth not enjoy cannabis?"
|
Bodhi of Ankou
*alternate opinion blocks path*



Registered: 06/02/09
Posts: 24,778
Loc: Soviet Canukistan
|
Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: Dosile Kouki]
#14152217 - 03/20/11 03:17 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
DosileFlynn said: dont break the law people.
being a criminal is not something that is cool or be looked up to.
none of you are desperate individuals with absolutely nothing else you can do in your life and thus resorting to selling drugs.
Dont be lazy and just take the easy option, because you will regret it later on when its too late.
dudes got a point, maybe a little supplementation but taking it up as a fulltime vocation is weak.
|
the spiral
Neuroscientist




Registered: 05/13/02
Posts: 1,769
Last seen: 8 years, 7 months
|
Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: Mello Kitty] 1
#14152242 - 03/20/11 03:33 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
ellenallien said: thou shall not profiteer off of psychedelics 
"Profiteer" is the right word; I think the statement deserves a little more explanation though.
I think it's sheer idealism rather than fact to think that the "family" , for example, who made acid so available for so many years on the dead circuit weren't turning a profit. Nor do I think there's anything wrong with making a little money for one's trouble and the risk and so on; I'm certainly not saying that profit was their motivation - I think its rather obvious that it wasn't. And you won't find me saying anything kind about folks who take advantage of people and are far less interested in sharing a wonderful experience than emptying people's wallets.
Personally, I say spread the love - but I'm not going to hold it against anyone for simply trying to earn back the money they had to invest in order to make psychs available to others in the first place. I do certainly agree with the sentiment that psychedelics should be offered as inexpensively as possible and that individuals who are just out to make a buck have no business peddling sacraments they neither understand nor respect as if they were nothing more than party favors.
--------------------
  "A celibate clergy is an especially good idea, because it tends to suppress any hereditary propensity toward fanaticism." - Carl Sagan
|
Johnny Depp

Registered: 04/01/10
Posts: 2,201
Last seen: 8 years, 10 months
|
Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: the spiral]
#14152348 - 03/20/11 04:32 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
.
Edited by Johnny Depp (12/19/14 04:02 AM)
|
Yrtlzmo

Registered: 02/17/04
Posts: 2,623
|
|
.
Edited by Yrtlzmo (02/03/13 10:25 AM)
|
the spiral
Neuroscientist




Registered: 05/13/02
Posts: 1,769
Last seen: 8 years, 7 months
|
Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: Yrtlzmo]
#14152412 - 03/20/11 05:30 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Yrtlzmo said: They're just fucking with your serotonin levels you guys.
And your consciousness, and everything that makes you "you", is "just" electrical and chemical (ie. serotonin) activity "fucking with" neurons and astrocytes in your head. Nothing special about that right?

|
Yrtlzmo

Registered: 02/17/04
Posts: 2,623
|
|
.
Edited by Yrtlzmo (02/03/13 10:25 AM)
|
propensity
۞̷ ̶۞̷ ̶



Registered: 01/06/10
Posts: 11,056
Loc: Bedrock America
Last seen: 3 years, 7 months
|
Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: Yrtlzmo]
#14152416 - 03/20/11 05:34 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
--------------------
۞̷̛̗̗͉͇̰̅͒ͯͩ̆ͯ̑͘ ̶̖̭ͧ͛ͬ͑ͣͦ̍ͧ͐͟͢ www.cactophage.com ۞̷̛̗̗͉͇̰̅͒ͯͩ̆ͯ̑͘ ̶̖̭ͧ͛ͬ͑ͣͦ̍ͧ͐͟͢ ̸ۨ͜۞̷̛̗̗͉͇̰̅͒ͯͩ̆ͯ̑͘ ̶̖̭ͧ͛ͬ͑ͣͦ̍ͧ͐͟Dolphins of Dank۞̷̛̗̗͉͇̰̅͒ͯͩ̆
|
Yrtlzmo

Registered: 02/17/04
Posts: 2,623
|
|
.
Edited by Yrtlzmo (02/03/13 10:25 AM)
|
the spiral
Neuroscientist




Registered: 05/13/02
Posts: 1,769
Last seen: 8 years, 7 months
|
Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: Yrtlzmo]
#14152429 - 03/20/11 05:43 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Yrtlzmo said: Hey if that's special then I guess so is prozac?
That's exactly where I think you're missing my point. It's not just about what the drug does quantitatively, what's in this case (IMO) more important is what it does qualitatively. While prozac may be a godsend for many with depression, I doubt most people would consider it capable of providing the kind of exceptional qualitative experience that psychedelics can.
Similarly, while the electrochemical activity in your brain can take on a variety of forms (many - if not most - of which would cause seizures), it's the qualitative experience of consciousness brought about by a specific coordinated mechanism of brain activity that we value and find a great deal of awe in. Psychedelics augment consciousness in a coordinated, fascinating way that results in a qualitatively powerful experience; yes, prozac affects serotonin in the brain, but is as comparable to the psychedelic experience as seizures are comparable to 'normal' waking consciousness. I think that example actually makes my point more accessible and salient; thanks
|
Bodhi of Ankou
*alternate opinion blocks path*



Registered: 06/02/09
Posts: 24,778
Loc: Soviet Canukistan
|
Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: Yrtlzmo]
#14152433 - 03/20/11 05:47 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
Reductionism hardly works when it comes to applying it to consciousness, and serotonin isnt affected in anyway by psilocin it only activates the same receptor as serotonin.
|
the spiral
Neuroscientist




Registered: 05/13/02
Posts: 1,769
Last seen: 8 years, 7 months
|
Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: Yrtlzmo]
#14152437 - 03/20/11 05:49 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Yrtlzmo said: The fact that mushrooms happen to alter our consciousness in the way that they do is a great coincidence, but it's nothing more.
The fact that we exist at all is the result of an enormous confluence of events that could easily be called 'coincidence'. Where you seem to think an amazing coincidence like the existence of the psychedelic experience (or the existence of you and me) somehow detracts from how awe-inspiring and valuable these things are, I find just the opposite: I think the "coincidence" of it all makes things such as these even more amazing and profound.
|
propensity
۞̷ ̶۞̷ ̶



Registered: 01/06/10
Posts: 11,056
Loc: Bedrock America
Last seen: 3 years, 7 months
|
Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: the spiral]
#14152439 - 03/20/11 05:50 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
the spiral said:
Quote:
Yrtlzmo said: The fact that mushrooms happen to alter our consciousness in the way that they do is a great coincidence, but it's nothing more.
The fact that we exist at all is the result of an enormous confluence of events that could easily be called 'coincidence'. Where you seem to think an amazing coincidence like the existence of the psychedelic experience (or the existence of you and me) somehow detracts from how awe-inspiring and valuable these things are, I find just the opposite: I think it makes these things that much more amazing.
This, I don't see how Yrtlzmo can think that way
Seems to make no sense
--------------------
۞̷̛̗̗͉͇̰̅͒ͯͩ̆ͯ̑͘ ̶̖̭ͧ͛ͬ͑ͣͦ̍ͧ͐͟͢ www.cactophage.com ۞̷̛̗̗͉͇̰̅͒ͯͩ̆ͯ̑͘ ̶̖̭ͧ͛ͬ͑ͣͦ̍ͧ͐͟͢ ̸ۨ͜۞̷̛̗̗͉͇̰̅͒ͯͩ̆ͯ̑͘ ̶̖̭ͧ͛ͬ͑ͣͦ̍ͧ͐͟Dolphins of Dank۞̷̛̗̗͉͇̰̅͒ͯͩ̆
|
Yrtlzmo

Registered: 02/17/04
Posts: 2,623
|
|
.
Edited by Yrtlzmo (02/03/13 10:26 AM)
|
Yrtlzmo

Registered: 02/17/04
Posts: 2,623
|
|
.
Edited by Yrtlzmo (02/03/13 10:26 AM)
|
Johnny Depp

Registered: 04/01/10
Posts: 2,201
Last seen: 8 years, 10 months
|
Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: Yrtlzmo]
#14152472 - 03/20/11 06:12 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
I have no idea what you guys are talking about now
|
the spiral
Neuroscientist




Registered: 05/13/02
Posts: 1,769
Last seen: 8 years, 7 months
|
Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: Yrtlzmo]
#14152481 - 03/20/11 06:15 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
I never claimed that human consciousness or the psychedelic experience are 'pinnacles' of existence; probabilistically I'd be quite surprised if this universe (and perhaps others, if there are others) doesn't hold mysteries, complexities, experiences, and possibilities beyond our wildest imaginations, to which comparing our small slice of existence would be akin to comparing the human experience to that of a moon rock. But the possibility of something 'greater' doesn't make our existence any less inspirational or awe-invoking, and our capacity to imagine and talk about the possibility of incredible things existing 'out there' - things we struggle to even conceive of - actually, in my opinion anyway, makes the human experience and the existence of the human mind and imagination more wonderful and amazing, not less so.
|
|