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FrankHorrigan
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Recycling cakes q
#13996216 - 02/20/11 03:33 PM (13 years, 12 days ago) |
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I have a paper bag containing the crumbled remains of 12 b+ pf cakes. It's the middle of winter and there's snow on the ground. What to do with them?
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FrankHorrigan
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Oops. They are the remains of b+ cakes past their third or fourth flushes.
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dmonkey1
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you should have left them in the cake form. If you want to psudo-fruit them. Next time, place them in a plastic bag and spray it with a little bit of water, tie it shut.
either that or make a compost pile
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Re: Recycling cakes q [Re: dmonkey1]
#13997435 - 02/20/11 07:26 PM (13 years, 12 days ago) |
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Will they fruit in the plastic bag? How does it work and how long does it take? Sounds interesting.
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So after the 3-4 flush on my substrates (before it contams) I place them in plastic shopping bags (the standard white kind). They usually have enough moisture to produce a few huge fruits from residual pins. It's usually %30-50 weight of your last flush in huge fruits. Not much light is required too since the pin/knoting have usually already formed
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Edited by dmonkey1 (02/20/11 09:59 PM)
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: Recycling cakes q [Re: dmonkey1]
#14004215 - 02/21/11 09:51 PM (13 years, 11 days ago) |
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That's awesome. I'm gonna go for it next time. Thanks!
Any other ideas as well?
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: Recycling cakes q [Re: dmonkey1]
#14126282 - 03/15/11 05:54 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
dmonkey1 said: So after the 3-4 flush on my substrates (before it contams) I place them in plastic shopping bags (the standard white kind). They usually have enough moisture to produce a few huge fruits from residual pins. It's usually %30-50 weight of your last flush in huge fruits. Not much light is required too since the pin/knoting have usually already formed
so, place them in a shopping bag and squirt some mist and tie it up and wait?
my 2nd grow is about to it's fourth and i think i'm going to do this.
do i just put them in a dark place at room temp? One cake per bag or multiple?
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Didn't know about this method being used, either.. I will definitely give it a shot before throwing my cakes into the compost pile!
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Re: Recycling cakes q [Re: Cynosure]
#14126466 - 03/15/11 06:32 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Spent cakes are spent. Toss.
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Re: Recycling cakes q [Re: Doc_T]
#14126471 - 03/15/11 06:34 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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By the time a cake is spent, I have a bunch more waiting to take its place. Why bother with them if they are spent?
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: Recycling cakes q [Re: esquaredx]
#14151872 - 03/20/11 01:03 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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i've heard i can crumble and bury them outdoors during certain times and see if anything grows.
how can i go about that?
or have i heard more misinfo?
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TheIndoCloud
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Well its still kinda cold where I am. I still buried them in backyard. I read they go into hibernate mode in low temps but not sure if the myc would die til it gets warm and starts to rain. Its supposed to be best to grow outdoors during June but I went for it anyways. We shall see.
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FrankHorrigan
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how do i set up the bed?
i've got no clue and haven't come across much relevant info.
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TheIndoCloud
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4 inch bed with a layer of unpasteurized cow manure on the bottom and on top, myc in the middle. I think the cow manure should be with water at its field capacity.
RRs notes from the pdf i posted 
*For an outdoor grow, all you need to do is gather up some of your field-aged manure and make a bed of it in a nice shady spot. Make the bed no more than about six inches deep. Dig a hole and put the manure in that, so the ground can help keep it from drying out. Wet the manure down well, but no pasteurization is required for outdoor grows. Obtain some spores and inoculate some pf cakes, made from brown rice flour and vermiculite. You can find the pf tek on here in the FAQ link at the top of the page. When 8 or 10 jars are fully colonized, you can spawn them into your manure outdoors, and the mycelium will jump off from the brown rice flour cakes into your manure. Lay a sheet of cardboard, or a few inches of straw over the top to shade and hold in moisture while the mycelium colonizes your manure. It will fruit later in the summer after heavy rains.
*If you're going to grow outdoors using bagged cow manure unpasteurized, put it in the ground, not in a Tupperware. It needs the organisms in the soil to prevent contamination. I'd also suspect your cake was contaminated prior to spawning to the manure if it was green within a week. I've stored bagged cow manure outdoors for months without it growing trich. If you spread the bagged cow manure out on a tarp in the hot sun, the ammonia is gone within hours. If it's cool weather, it might take a few days. OUTDOORS GROW
*Wait until June to plant them outdoors. If you put grains in the ground, the damn squirrels will dig up every single kernel to eat, and destroy your patch. Mix the grains with manure indoors, and then in June or July, bury them into a shallow hole with horse or cow manure spread all around the substrates you're planting. If you want to spawn directly to manure outdoors, use pf cakes, not grain. OUTDOOR
*Cakes can be grown outdoors, but those temperatures are at the extreme end of the scale. I would suggest to partially burying the cakes after full colonization, in the shade under some thick bushes. By burying the cakes half way, they can draw moisture from the soil, preventing them from drying out. It will help to run a lawn sprinkler in the area for several minutes, a few times per day. OUTDOORS
*You can pick up the cow pies and break them up into a compost pile or shallow manure bed in your yard. Mulch over the top with straw. This is how I originally started out in the early 70’s; when there was no Internet, no grow guides, nothing. OUTDOORS BED *Chop up the fruit into manure or compost. It should clone right into the new substrate, provided temperatures are still in the right range. OUTDOORS GROW
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biologys
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i throw all my contam'd jars/sub's, spent substrates, monotub's, etc all in a compost pile, where i throw some old straw, any left over manure or coir tha I have after making up a tub, and i got fruits all thru last year not alot at one time, but always a few coming up here and there.
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FrankHorrigan
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you guys are awesome. i've got so many cakes i should prolly make a couple beds and start a compost...
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Doc_T
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I just plant them like yard plugs.
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