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Why America Supports Israel
    #1415096 - 03/27/03 07:09 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Just an interesting article.Wanted to see how it gets cut up here.


Why America Supports Israel
By Irwin N. Graulich
IsraelNationalNews.com | December 20, 2002


Is it really the Jewish lobby that has hypnotized the United States Congress? Has the Zionist conspiracy infiltrated the White House? Have Jews managed to place "Love-Israel" bio-terrorism spores into the American water supply?

It certainly defies logic. George W. Bush supports Israel, yet his presidential opponent received 85% of the Jewish vote. While Bush was governor, Jews in Texas were even less supportive. Dick Cheney, a staunch hawk for Israel during his entire career, comes from the state of Wyoming, where Jews are as scarce as gold nuggets. Somehow, all 16 Jews in the state managed to form a powerful voting block that forced Cheney to become an Israeli pawn. And word is that Donald Rumsfeld had a secret Bar Mitzvah when he was 13 and occasionally is seen putting on tfillin in the bowels of the Pentagon.

Anyone who claims that the Jewish lobby controls American politics is more than just a fool; they are pure evil. It is the ultimate lie, akin to denying the Holocaust and Black Slavery.

Israel has no oil and the Arab nations have virtually all of it. Yet oil is blamed for support of Israel. The "Cold War" has ended and Israel is irrelevant to the geopolitics of the old USSR/Middle East relationship. Therefore, Israel is no longer a "necessary" Western outpost for the American military, which it had never been anyway. In fact, the American military is stationed exclusively in Arab countries throughout the Middle East, and yet America still favors Israel.

The reason for America?s support is clear. Israel is a democracy and happens to be the closest nation in the world to America in terms of values, capitalism, entrepreneurship, love of "moderate" religion, freedoms, an open/transparent press and a passion for enjoying life within guidelines. In fact, the ultimate proof that Americans love Israel for ideological reasons is that percentage-wise, more Christians are vehemently pro-Israel than Jews!

In the corrupt Arab/Muslim world, it seems inconceivable that a country would support another nation because of common values and ideals. To the rest of the Middle East, supporting Israel for moral reasons and not for financial gain, military expansion or other benefits, seems quite impossible. Therefore, since it cannot be morality driven, championing a Jewish state must be explained as much more insidious, like a Zionist plot or hidden conspiracy.

The double standard with regard to Israel runs quite deeply. Indeed, no rational rules apply. Throughout history, after a victory in war, the victor determines the terms of peace. However, when Israel is victorious in three consecutive wars, it must beg for peace and recognition of existence. For Israel, winning the battle only means the right to return everything and be nice to the enemy. In fact, the Jews seem to have become the new Christians of the world.

Israel humiliated all of the Arab countries in 1948, 1967 and 1973 by crushing them resoundingly in war. In addition, during that same period, Israel totally embarrassed the entire Arab/Muslim world by defeating them economically, technologically, intellectually, culturally, religiously, medically, socially and morally. Since America?s accomplishments are that much greater, it is no wonder that the Arab/Muslim nations feel totally frustrated. They subscribe to a religious belief that promises world greatness, strength and domination, while reality shows them trailing very far behind. Imagine a lifetime of prayer, practice and deep belief, now having to confront the reality of membership in a totally fraudulent guarantee. The only salvation left for fundamentalist Islam is to destroy the competition.

So, September 11th should not have come as a great surprise, except for the precise date. Once terrorism took hold in Israel, it was obviously destined to move on to its big brother across the Atlantic, who so closely resembles it. Because, as it goes with Israel, so it goes with America.


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Re: Why America Supports Israel [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #1415125 - 03/27/03 07:22 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Evangelical christians are the base of Israeli support in America. They believe it's their duty to support God's cosen people. These are the christian coalition "religious conservatives" I'm describing.


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Re: Why America Supports Israel [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1415143 - 03/27/03 07:30 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Is that all the reason? DOes this paragraph hold water?
"The reason for America?s support is clear. Israel is a democracy and happens to be the closest nation in the world to America in terms of values, capitalism, entrepreneurship, love of "moderate" religion, freedoms, an open/transparent press and a passion for enjoying life within guidelines. In fact, the ultimate proof that Americans love Israel for ideological reasons is that percentage-wise, more Christians are vehemently pro-Israel than Jews!
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If it is all because of the Evangelical christians support, it scares the shit out of me that those nuts can weild that kind of power.


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Re: Why America Supports Israel [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #1415149 - 03/27/03 07:33 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

That's one pissed off Heeb.


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Re: Why America Supports Israel [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #1415168 - 03/27/03 07:39 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Some people may support Israel because it's westernized as that paragraph describes, but IMO and IME that's not why the "christian conservatives" support Israel. It's simply that they believe that Israel was given to jews by God and they must support God's plan.

I have a bit of experience polling for the Israel Ministry of Tourism (part of the Irsaeli gov), I've interviewed hundreads of pastors and I have no doubt the grassroots support of Israel is from "christian conservatives."


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Re: Why America Supports Israel [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1415177 - 03/27/03 07:42 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I vote we rename "Israel" to "Kurdistan" and watch the sparks fly.


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Re: Why America Supports Israel [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1415275 - 03/27/03 08:20 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Why's everyone always wanna kill the fuckin Jews?


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Re: Why America Supports Israel [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #1415691 - 03/27/03 11:37 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

For the same reason the poor dislike the rich, the weak dislike the strong, the ugly dislike the beautiful.

For the same reason so many hate the US.

Success breeds envy.
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Great article by the way mntlfngrs .


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Re: Why America Supports Israel [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #1415744 - 03/28/03 12:44 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Israel are funded to the tune of millions per day from the US and its just because Israel is like the US? Get a grip.



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Re: Why America Supports Israel [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1415745 - 03/28/03 12:46 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Israel isnt successful they are just international beggars and the US keep filling their bowl. I thought you were against handouts and foreign aid anyway?


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Re: Why America Supports Israel [Re: GazzBut]
    #1415767 - 03/28/03 01:14 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I'd buy that for a dollar!


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Re: Why America Supports Israel [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1415769 - 03/28/03 01:16 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

More like how the rapees hate the rapists.


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Re: Why America Supports Israel [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #1415929 - 03/28/03 01:49 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Why America Supports Israel




America!?!  :shocked:

That's not an appropriate title and it's absolutely not accurate. A better title would have been 'Why American Administrations Support Israel'.

Mr. Graulich should not generalise.
 


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Re: Why America Supports Israel [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #1415930 - 03/28/03 01:57 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I stopped reading at
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Anyone who claims that the Jewish lobby controls American politics is more than just a fool; they are pure evil 



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Re: Why America Supports Israel [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #1415938 - 03/28/03 02:33 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

"every time we do something you tell me Americans will do this and will do that. I want to tell you something very clear, don't worry about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it."



Ariel Sharon October 3, 2001


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Re: Why America Supports Israel [Re: Rono]
    #1415948 - 03/28/03 03:03 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe comments like that have something to do with it


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Re: Why America Supports Israel [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #1416276 - 03/29/03 12:00 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

The Jews might control Hollywood but that is it. For you that might = America.


Gaz, why don'y you enlighten us as to the real reason then. Jewish lobby? NWO? what


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Re: Why America Supports Israel [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #1416290 - 03/29/03 12:18 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Israel is rather socialist than capitalist.
Israel gets money to support their military capabilities but since they get sooo damn much I can imagine it's used for elsewhere.
Israel is one of the best when it comes to huntin down terrorists.
Jews who're against the war with Iraq or any terrorism obviously hasn't lived in Israel.
WTC would've prolly never happened or Bin Laden would've been captured if fucking Clinton didn't FUCK UP THAT FUCKING SHIT, ARGH.

There's a Bob Marley quote "For every Zion killed, Babylon grows stronger"
It made me sick when I found this quote.


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Re: Why America Supports Israel [Re: Cracka_X]
    #1416392 - 03/29/03 02:32 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

For decades in Israel, the kibbutzim -- collective villages where no could own a radio or anything else until everyone owned the same thing -- were socialist dreams and directly linked to the Labor Party. But disastrous economic decisions and the lure of capitalism left them in dire shape. Now, they are turning to free-enterprise methods to survive.


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Re: Why America Supports Israel [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #1416400 - 03/29/03 02:49 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Now, they are turning to free-enterprise methods to survive.

They really are fucked then.


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