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Re: E-Prime: A Self-Experiment [Re: deCypher]
    #14149395 - 03/19/11 04:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I would say "that appears to be a gorgeous car" because I believe in subjectivity of perception, but what if the woman does not?  She really means that the car is gorgeous, NOT just that her perception of it deems it so.  How could we coherently translate any major work of fiction that uses the verb "to be"?




Using E-prime the woman couldn't say that because one of the motivations behind E-Prime tries to avoid invoking, hidden, metaphysical essences, or 'spooks.' Thus, when using E-Prime, you can only talk about how things appear to a specific oberserver. You cannot talk about how things objectively "are."

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Re: E-Prime: A Self-Experiment [Re: ShroomScape]
    #14149480 - 03/19/11 05:08 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Exactly, which is why it's impossible to translate certain material into E-prime.  I do agree that the world as we know it would be a better place if we used it, though.


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Re: E-Prime: A Self-Experiment [Re: deCypher]
    #14149486 - 03/19/11 05:08 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Agreed. :thumbup:

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