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Drug users being Anti Drugs
#14149351 - 03/19/11 04:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I can't fucking stand people that say Weed is bad. I don't get this forum, it's based on the interest of Psychedelic Mushrooms. How can you even find this site without searching for psychedelic mushrooms.
This one goes out to anyone who has ever been fucked with my police for drug use. If you have, fuck being negative about drug use. Don't let the 1% of junkie criminals and the 5% of irresponsible users fuck it up for all of us.
FACE IT. So many drugs are in the USA, it's like they ARE FUCKING LEGAL. If you can't score drugs your a fucking idiot. I mean, what is harder; finding a girl to have sex with you or scoring drugs?
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Re: Drug users being Anti Drugs [Re: iluvfungi]
#14149360 - 03/19/11 04:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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iluvfungi said: I mean, what is harder; finding a girl to have sex with you or scoring drugs?
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Scoring drugz is waaay harder than having sex  I would trade 3 times of having sex for a single joint.
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Re: Drug users being Anti Drugs [Re: iluvfungi]
#14149378 - 03/19/11 04:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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wut
who's being negative about weed here?
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I wouldn't suggest drug use to anyone; however i use them occasionally. I guess this puts me in the drug user being anti drug boat.
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Re: Drug users being Anti Drugs [Re: iamnotadream]
#14149387 - 03/19/11 04:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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iamnotadream said: wut
who's being negative about weed here?
this.. there is another thread that is about people that think pot is the devil but i have yet to find anyone talking bad about pot on this forum.
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Re: Drug users being Anti Drugs [Re: masterharf]
#14149399 - 03/19/11 04:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Im pro weed, pro mushrooms... But deep down I know cant be good... Were breathing smoke with thousand of chemicals in it... gotta be realistic here...
Mushrooms: Healthy, no chemical damage... but a bad trip can fuck someone up for awhile... So again, realistically speaking, they can potentially hurt someone mentally.
Addictive hard drugs: Im against. No positive has come out of cocaine and heroin since they hit the streets. You never hear something like 'heroin user cured her cancer with her drug use'
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Re: Drug users being Anti Drugs [Re: masterharf]
#14149400 - 03/19/11 04:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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masterharf said: I wouldn't suggest drug use to anyone; however i use them occasionally. I guess this puts me in the drug user being anti drug boat.
I don't think that's anti-drug at all.
I wouldn't recommend drugs to anyone because ultimately it's a choice that the person should make on his/her own... also some people don't react well with substances that otherwise react well for us, so it's not smart to "recommend" any drug in my opinion.
Psychedelics especially come to mind.
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SamuelLJackson said:
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iluvfungi said: I mean, what is harder; finding a girl to have sex with you or scoring drugs?

lol the key missions in life are all difficult endeavors. unless of course you are an attractive female with charisma
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Re: Drug users being Anti Drugs [Re: Patlal] 2
#14149455 - 03/19/11 05:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Patlal said:Addictive hard drugs: Im against. No positive has come out of cocaine and heroin since they hit the streets. You never hear something like 'heroin user cured her cancer with her drug use'
No, but you do hear "cancer sufferer got through their last days/treatment a little bit more comfortably because they had strong opiates to deal with the pain"
Not that that has anything to do with what's legal on the street. I'm just not against opiates, heroin is only demonized because it's illegal in most places, in reality it's no worse that oxycodone or morphine.
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Re: Drug users being Anti Drugs [Re: amilibertine]
#14149517 - 03/19/11 05:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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My point is, even if you are a drug user, please don't be anti drugs. Warn peeps about the dangers, that is awesome. Not like we want everyone to do drugs. It's our responsibility to favor legalization, while warning about the dangers of drugs to limit their usage.
The benefits outweigh the risks. If every intense drug user went to the damn high school and told all the kids why as a drug user, they wouldn't recommend it to others that would be a shit load more effective in preventing kids from using drugs.
We will always have criminal junkies, you aren't going fix that ever. But we can limit the amount of people using drugs. The only reason drugs are so popular is because they are illegal, because of D.A.R.E (specifically designed to increase drug usage).
The government and the police just love the drug war. Drugs cost lots of money, they always go for the big fish, for the MONEY! Figure it out man.
Anyone who is anti weed legalization on this forum shouldn't be here. Straight up. The benefits outweigh the negatives. Shit the benefits outweigh the negatives on legalizing drugs nationally, but lets start with weed. Anyone anti weed, just go away. This is a pro drug forum, come on.
To the due that thinks weed is bad in terms of burning, wtf tobacco is legal. Tobacco causes cancer not Cannabis. Educate yourself and stop posting bullshit.
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Re: Drug users being Anti Drugs [Re: iluvfungi]
#14149536 - 03/19/11 05:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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i've never heard of a drug user that is anti-drugs
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Re: Drug users being Anti Drugs [Re: Envix]
#14149551 - 03/19/11 05:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Envix said: i've never heard of a drug user that is anti-drugs
I've known many, many people who are pro-certain drugs and anti-other drugs. Stoners for instance: I'd bet 75% of the stoners I know would vote to keep crack, heroin and meth illegal.
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Re: Drug users being Anti Drugs [Re: deCypher]
#14149564 - 03/19/11 05:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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oh yeah i had a friend once who smoked pot every day, and did shrooms & dmt but thought acid gave u permanent brain damage 
happy birfdai decypher!! mine is in 18 days
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Re: Drug users being Anti Drugs [Re: iluvfungi]
#14149584 - 03/19/11 05:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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iluvfungi said: My point is, even if you are a drug user, please don't be anti drugs. Warn peeps about the dangers, that is awesome. Not like we want everyone to do drugs. It's our responsibility to favor legalization, while warning about the dangers of drugs to limit their usage.
The benefits outweigh the risks. If every intense drug user went to the damn high school and told all the kids why as a drug user, they wouldn't recommend it to others that would be a shit load more effective in preventing kids from using drugs.
We will always have criminal junkies, you aren't going fix that ever. But we can limit the amount of people using drugs. The only reason drugs are so popular is because they are illegal, because of D.A.R.E (specifically designed to increase drug usage).
The government and the police just love the drug war. Drugs cost lots of money, they always go for the big fish, for the MONEY! Figure it out man.
Anyone who is anti weed legalization on this forum shouldn't be here. Straight up. The benefits outweigh the negatives. Shit the benefits outweigh the negatives on legalizing drugs nationally, but lets start with weed. Anyone anti weed, just go away. This is a pro drug forum, come on.
To the due that thinks weed is bad in terms of burning, wtf tobacco is legal. Tobacco causes cancer not Cannabis. Educate yourself and stop posting bullshit.
Every time you respond to a post I make you assume I don't know what you do.
Schools have had drug users talk to students forever. I sat through at least 3 different speakers in my school years. Didn't stop me.
Also, who the fuck is to say who should or shouldn't be here? Freedom doesn't mean "everything I agree with is cool, everything else shouldn't be allowed". Don't you see how your attitude is exactly the same as the people you are so against?
You can't demand that other people do what you yourself aren't willing to do. That's bullshit.
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Re: Drug users being Anti Drugs [Re: amilibertine]
#14149729 - 03/19/11 05:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Alright man. I understand your point. It's just a little difficult to deal with these people who are even against Cannabis Legalization. Man we've fought so hard to get it almost legal in California and the fight continues for so many states.
A man who is 60 who seeks Medical Cannabis as an alternative to morphine should have that right.
Peeps who are Anti Cannabis are nuts man.
As for you and the drug talks, we are the exception. I don't care what someone does, I love drugs man. So do you. It's not us who are the problem. But the drug war makes us the problem.
I don't do anything wrong. I don't steal, I'm honest. I support myself and don't cause harm to the society. Ok I understand the dude that isn't like me, who steals from peoples cars because of meth is a problem, but I'm not. You aren't either right?
So why do we have to suffer. Gay people have more rights then you or I do. It's my body, my mind, my choice. Ironically drug users used to have more rights then homosexuals, but it sure seems like we are the enemy know. Don't believe me, read the damn history books.
To the poser who said LSD caused brain damage, prove it. Your just some wanna be, some hater. Regardless, when I tried oxycontin I was careful. I knew it was extremely dangerous. One time I played a little too hard a couple times. Once I puked for 3 days because of basically lightly overdosing on oxycontin. Oh and damn if drugs were actually legal actual medical testing would be valid and not the bullshit lies the US Government manipulates and the Medical Companies. The USA makes a lot of money off drugs being illegal and it creates a huge industry called the criminal justice system; ironically it's mostly related to drugs being illegal. Could you image Cannabis being legal nationally? We are talking billions of dollars revenue lost for Big Medical Companies; Pain Medications alone would be ridiculous.
That was my choice, my decision, my responsibility. If I would have died, that would have been my fault and no one else's.
I haven't tried crack, because honestly, straight up I don't think I can handle it. Same with PCP and Datura. Just like when I snowboard I don't go up the 50 foot rail, because I know damn well I can't handle it. I don't do back flips off a diving board because I think I'll snap my neck.
News loves to focus on negatives? Why? You tell me? Since you are so intelligent mr LSD kills people boy. Write me a report on the psychological aspect of negativity in the media. Obviously you haven't graduated college yet.
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Re: Drug users being Anti Drugs [Re: iluvfungi]
#14149747 - 03/19/11 06:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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The cannabis users who are against cannabis legalization usually have a financial stake in keeping it theoretically illegal, i.e. they don't want to pay goddamn taxes on the weed they sell. IMHO their greed has led them to betray everybody who has ever gotten in trouble for being a harmless potsmoker. They're also helping to fuck up the California economy. They are terrible people and I hope they have trouble sleeping at night, but I'm sure they don't.
There's that, and otherwise many stoners are too lazy and myopic to understand that simple legalization of weed is far bigger than the details of the bill itself, which can be revised over time provided they stay politically involved (too much to ask for, apparently).
Yes I'm for legalization, in case you couldn't tell.
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Re: Drug users being Anti Drugs [Re: iluvfungi]
#14149811 - 03/19/11 06:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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iluvfungi said: Alright man. I understand your point. It's just a little difficult to deal with these people who are even against Cannabis Legalization. Man we've fought so hard to get it almost legal in California and the fight continues for so many states.
A man who is 60 who seeks Medical Cannabis as an alternative to morphine should have that right.
Peeps who are Anti Cannabis are nuts man.
As for you and the drug talks, we are the exception. I don't care what someone does, I love drugs man. So do you. It's not us who are the problem. But the drug war makes us the problem.
I don't do anything wrong. I don't steal, I'm honest. I support myself and don't cause harm to the society. Ok I understand the dude that isn't like me, who steals from peoples cars because of meth is a problem, but I'm not. You aren't either right?
So why do we have to suffer. Gay people have more rights then you or I do. It's my body, my mind, my choice. Ironically drug users used to have more rights then homosexuals, but it sure seems like we are the enemy know. Don't believe me, read the damn history books.
To the poser who said LSD caused brain damage, prove it. Your just some wanna be, some hater. Regardless, when I tried oxycontin I was careful. I knew it was extremely dangerous. One time I played a little too hard a couple times. Once I puked for 3 days because of basically lightly overdosing on oxycontin. Oh and damn if drugs were actually legal actual medical testing would be valid and not the bullshit lies the US Government manipulates and the Medical Companies. The USA makes a lot of money off drugs being illegal and it creates a huge industry called the criminal justice system; ironically it's mostly related to drugs being illegal. Could you image Cannabis being legal nationally? We are talking billions of dollars revenue lost for Big Medical Companies; Pain Medications alone would be ridiculous.
That was my choice, my decision, my responsibility. If I would have died, that would have been my fault and no one else's.
I haven't tried crack, because honestly, straight up I don't think I can handle it. Same with PCP and Datura. Just like when I snowboard I don't go up the 50 foot rail, because I know damn well I can't handle it. I don't do back flips off a diving board because I think I'll snap my neck.
News loves to focus on negatives? Why? You tell me? Since you are so intelligent mr LSD kills people boy. Write me a report on the psychological aspect of negativity in the media. Obviously you haven't graduated college yet.
I think you underestimate by a large margin the amount of drug users who actually are addicts.
I'm a former IV heroin user.
I don't love all drugs, most of the biggest problems in my life are because of mine or other peoples drug use (including alcohol).
I don't think junkies are pieces of shit, I think they need mental help.
I believe in freedom.
I think our drug laws are a joke and do much harm and zero good.
I'm not trying to sound like a dick, I just think you assume too much and think you know more than you really do.
3 days of puking from oxycodone? I find that hard to believe unless you were allergic to it. Opiates are completely out of your system very quickly. Also, if you were so careful then how did this happen.
I've never puked from opiates.
Crack is nothing special and pretty much is a 15 minute coke buzz with a rush at the beginning.
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Re: Drug users being Anti Drugs [Re: iluvfungi]
#14149820 - 03/19/11 06:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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you do realize that no one stated that acid causes brain damage
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Re: Drug users being Anti Drugs [Re: masterharf]
#14149855 - 03/19/11 06:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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What's worse
lsd or mcdonalds
yeah
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Re: Drug users being Anti Drugs [Re: pfxtc]
#14150047 - 03/19/11 06:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well I was driving up from LA and snorting oxycontin like it was cocaine. I was getting tired on the drive up and oxycontin for me acts like speed, now. So I did a good amount, more then I usually do. Yah I puked for 3 days and couldn't eat. I only did oxy for a week or so.
Sorry to hear that your life is messed up because of drugs. When I was younger I destroyed part of my life because of partying too hard.
But it was your choice. It was your choice to choose to IV heroin. I wouldn't do it once, even if it was right in front of my face. I thought about it, tried to get the balls to do it, but couldn't. I knew I couldn't handle it or maybe my subconscious was holding me back.
Everyone knows IV'ing drugs is bad news. I mean come on it doesn't take much more then a quick internet search to see that IV'ing shit is a whole new level. TV documentaries on IV'ing meth are on the net.
My point is, you and Micky, the IV meth addict in Australia would have chosen to IV your drugs regardless of legality. I'm chicken shit to IV shit, lucky me. Just because someone like you can't handle your shit doesn't mean I can't man. That doesn't mean the stock brokers in New York can't handle cocaine.
I mean shit man, using your logic guns should be outlawed because someone is going to use them to rob a bank. You can't stop them. They want to rob a bank man. They made that choice. You made the choice to IV heroin.
We can go in circles all day man, but their is an obvious line with drugs. Their is the recreational user, their is the more enthusiastic user, then their is the fuck up. Just because you are a fuck up, and just because I fucked up a tiny bit, doesn't mean I haven't learned my lesson.
Drugs only fucked up my life because I was 19. I'm 29 now. I admit that I fucked up and it wasn't the fault of the drugs because I'm taking responsibility.
I remember this guy when I worked at the airport driving a shuttle. Somehow we ended up talking about how he did meth on the weekends. I was all 20 something at that point and replied in the trained fashion programmed by the US Government, "you have a problem." Man I regret that shit. Man doesn't have a problem, bullshit. If he can handle meth just on the weekends and live a productive life, more power to him.
If you gave me a pound of cocaine or a pound of meth, I'd have a really hard time just doing it every weekend. If cocaine and meth were legal I'd have to control my usage. I'd have to take even more responsibility then I do now, stop playing games. Drugs aren't that addictive man.
What the fuck I recently did meth for 2 entire months. After I stopped I slept for a week a little bit more. I was slightly depressed, but the whole cycle was fine after about a week. Ironically I quit smoking during that period, since meth is just so much more powerful.
Omg it was so bad, I stayed inside more then I normally do. For the first month I worked on music more then I ever have in my entire life. I literally played the piano, wrote songs, sang, for 15 hours or more a day. It was extremely productive. The next month I randomly switched up to learning more about my psychic powers and harnessing them. I felt like I was hurting my liver and therefore decided to stop, so I did.
I don't what is beneficial about opiates, but people like them a lot for extremely depressing situations. I'm sure Eric Clapton can describe in detail how heroin helped him deal with pain. I just described to you how extremely productive I was doing crystal meth for 2 months. How I just stopped; I actually threw away the rest of my stuff and pipe because I was just done with it. I've never worked so hard in my entire life on music. It was fucking amazing.
I'm sure Daft Punk can attest to you the power of crystal meth combined with music. "Better, Stronger, Faster." That is meth all the way man. Honestly if meth was legal, I'd be tempted to do it daily, but the lessons I've learned from it already were learned. I don't really need it anymore.
Man you are going tell me you don't like hit songs? I'm sure you can write them sober, but a whole lotta people have been high off their ass to write those songs you enjoy. The harder drugs make legends like Jimi Hendrix, Michael Jackson, Elvis, and I'm sure the Crystal Meth used I wonder what drug to write those amazing hit songs that are still popular today. As a musician its so easy to tell the amazing abilities some of these harder drugs give a human being.
Ah but I guess we don't need amazing musicians, we don't need legends. To me, your just some drop out who blames his problems on drugs. When hard drugs are used responsibly, they give amazing benefits. Sure, they shave a couple years off. Those men and women sacrificed longer life to give you something amazing. I don't know what your issues are, but if you focus on negatives, your life will suck. If you focus on positives your life is good.
Religion helps too man. Good luck dude. Hope my post helped you in some way.
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Re: Drug users being Anti Drugs [Re: pfxtc]
#14150091 - 03/19/11 07:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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pfxtc said: What's worse
lsd or mcdonalds
yeah
Really puts it all in perspective, huh?
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