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OfflineDosile Kouki
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Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: scienceguy]
    #14154351 - 03/20/11 02:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

No, i wouldn't give out legal advice for free. Nor would you work in your bikeshop (i think) for free, although im sure you have on occasion.


The distinction is that the work i hopefully will be doing in a legal capacity, and the work you do in your job, is Legal and deemed to be above board. Selling drugs is not (in most places in this world).

I'm not talking about morality. I like drugs. I'm just saying, what people are doing is illegal at the end of the day.


And alot of people are not the sharpest tools in the draw, not doing things carefully, doing things wrecklessly. And for what? as i said previously, it's not like people here are struggling to find food every day and resort to selling drugs to make ends meet.

They are putting themselves at jeapordy for a miniscule and unproportionate return.




At the end of the day its up to each individual to do their own risk analysis on the issue and make up in their own mind whether they think it is worth while or not. Me i think the answer is clear as day.....it's not, at all.


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Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: Dosile Kouki] * 1
    #14155608 - 03/20/11 07:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Part of me is really curious what you're going to do when you're put in the position of defending someone who's done something illegal...

"Well your honor, he had the appropriate tools to ascertain his own level of risk, and while I think that he shouldn't have grown the mushrooms, he did."



On a less related note, I'm curious how your own ethical concerns about right and wrong transcending legality weigh in when deciding to represent child molesters and murderers.

The point I'm trying to make is that what is legal is certainly not always right, and what is illegal is not necessarily wrong.  It's up to people to actively and nonviolently rebel against the injustices they perceive, whether it's on a large, overt scale or not.


Edit:  Good memory, but unfortunately the bike shop kinda went to shit.  The new owner ruined the awesome model of service and profitability that we'd established in favor of a business model that more closely resembles a wingless biplane from WWI plummeting to the ground.  I'm installing solar photovoltaic systems now, and loving it.


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OfflineDosile Kouki
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Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: scienceguy]
    #14155940 - 03/20/11 08:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I will do what any lawyer put in that position does...attempt to defend my client. When representing the client it has nothing to do with what i think. It's entirely cented around what the client thought and what the client did.



The first mistake you have made is stereo typing all lawyers as criminal lawyers, and assuming i am intending to pursue a career in criminal law. There are numerous different areas of law with which to pursue, and me personally i am leaning towards the commercial law field. However this field is highly competitive and i may struggle to get my foot in the door.

Secondly, there is a rule which Barrister's are bound by called " The First Cab Off The Rank Rule ". what this essentially means is that, if a client comes to a barrister and asks for their services in a professional manner, the barrister is bound to represent that client to the best of their abilities. It's not like lawyers choose to represent paedophiles, rapists and murderer's, but they are forced to. I would be just as disgusted as you if this occured.



As i stated previously i'm not talking about morals here, whats right and wrong. Thats a seperate issue. What i was saying is, the conduct whether its deemed good or bad, is at the end of the day deemed illegal. And illegal actions have serious repurcussions. The longer someone is exposed to criminality the greater the liability they expose themselves to.

Rebelling against in justice is great. In australia we have a constitutional right to protest and assembly. This is a great thing. If people do not like the current status of narcotics then they should start lobbying their governments and getting engaged in legal reform movements and whatnot.




ahhhh, sucks about the bike place. I remember you were saying you enjoyed it and stuff. Oh well. I have no idea what Solar photovoltaic systems are but it sounds complicated. A bit of a change every now and then is good anyway, keeps things fresh.


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Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14155958 - 03/20/11 08:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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don't get me started on the pointlessness of drug money and how it is bullshit money that can't even really be used in any significant way



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Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: Atheist]
    #14155976 - 03/20/11 08:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

do you want me to dive into that issue now and clarify what i mean by that statement? I get the sense you are not understanding what i meant by saying that.


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Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14155992 - 03/20/11 08:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

if i had one million $ worth of drug money, id find ways of getting shit with it.

quit bein silly


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Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: Atheist]
    #14155997 - 03/20/11 08:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You're naive. It doesn't work like that or as easily as you think.


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Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14156003 - 03/20/11 08:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

there are ways around it that you dunno about


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Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14156009 - 03/20/11 08:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

and if we are talking amounts more than $1 million, then i have to admit IDK how they do that shit..

but under that, shit, anythang is possible


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Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: Atheist]
    #14156027 - 03/20/11 08:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I know a few thangs too.


anythings possible, im just saying its not realistic.


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Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: Atheist]
    #14156522 - 03/20/11 09:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Atheist said:
there are ways around it that you dunno about




care to enlighten people?


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Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14156540 - 03/20/11 09:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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DosileFlynn said:
I know a few thangs too.


anythings possible, im just saying its not realistic.




Haven't you watched the Union?

It explicitly explains how to make tons of usable money with drugs


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Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: Boheim]
    #14156545 - 03/20/11 09:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Boheim said:
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Atheist said:
there are ways around it that you dunno about




care to enlighten people?




ya its called laundering

or FRONTS


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Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: Atheist]
    #14156619 - 03/20/11 10:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Atheist said:
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Boheim said:
Quote:

Atheist said:
there are ways around it that you dunno about




care to enlighten people?




ya its called laundering

or FRONTS




wow..a whole six word explanation to show us the error of our ways.

people still get caught with your ways around it.


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Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: Boheim]
    #14156634 - 03/20/11 10:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

NEVER front.


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Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: Boheim]
    #14156647 - 03/20/11 10:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Boheim said:
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Atheist said:
Quote:

Boheim said:
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Atheist said:
there are ways around it that you dunno about




care to enlighten people?




ya its called laundering

or FRONTS




wow..a whole six word explanation to show us the error of our ways.

people still get caught with your ways around it.




they get caught cause they are idiots


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Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: propensity]
    #14156649 - 03/20/11 10:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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propensity said:
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DosileFlynn said:
I know a few thangs too.


anythings possible, im just saying its not realistic.




Haven't you watched the Union?

It explicitly explains how to make tons of usable money with drugs




Making the money isn't the issue, i'm talking about how the money is not useable in any significant way. and so it makes it redundant to pursue illegal activities, because one is putting themselves in jeapordy from numerous threats to attain what is really only able to be used as living money, for the most part. (excluding high level things that are not realistic or relevant to anyones circumstances here)


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Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14156664 - 03/20/11 10:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Money is easily laundered and cleaned and if your big enough to be making so much to have to worry about making your spending legit then you should be making enough to run a front.


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Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14156685 - 03/20/11 10:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Strangers approaching me off the street trying to sell me shrooms is a little scary.


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Re: Trying to sell shrooms in the streets [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14156707 - 03/20/11 10:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

If some random, guy came up to me and asked hey would you want some mushrooms,
1: I would think your a :cop:
2: Really desperate to sell.
3: Crazy
4: Not that smart.
5: I wouldn't trust your mushrooms.
6: I would only buy mushrooms from sombody I trust, and know personally.
7: Don't go around downtown trying to sell some good mushrooms. Because you might eventually run into a :cop:
I don't know why I numbered this. I'm really :stoned:
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