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Drunken game of Russian roulette, 1 dead [AK]
    #14143235 - 03/18/11 01:34 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/03/soldier_accused_of_giving_nj_m.html
Man accused of giving N.J. soldier the gun he used to shoot himself pleads not guilty
Published: Friday, March 18, 2011, 12:55 PM    Updated: Friday, March 18, 2011, 1:41 PM



ANCHORAGE, Alaska — The Fort Richardson soldier accused of giving a fellow soldier the gun used to fire a fatal shot in a game of Russian roulette has pleaded not guilty to a manslaughter charge in Anchorage Superior Court.

Jacob D. Brouch had been at his Eagle River, Alaska, apartment drinking with his close friend Michael McCloskey on March 6 when the fatal shot was fired.

Several soldiers, including the company commander for the men, attended Thursday's court hearing, the Anchorage Daily News reported.

Capt. Brad Pietzyk said he was there to support all his soldiers and wasn't making a judgment on how civilian authorities should handle the case.

"These are both integral members of our team that we care very much about," Pietzyk said.

"All the troops have pulled together really well," Pietzyk said. "They are looking out for each other, taking care of each other. It's a shock to their system, to say the least. But it's a very strong and loyal team."

Both men served in the 84th Engineer Support Company, 6th Engineer Battalion, 3rd Maneuver Enhancement Brigade.

McCloskey, who was 26, served two tours in Iraq and was previously at Fort Leonard Wood, Mo., and Fort Bragg, N.C. He had been part of the 82nd Airborne All-American Chorus and performed at the rededication of the Statue of Liberty. The Beverly, N.J., native leaves behind a son, Connor, a sister, four brothers and his parents.

He had just been promoted to sergeant, Pietzyk said.

Brouch, 25, is being held on $250,000 bail.

A bail hearing is set for Wednesday.


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Re: Drunken game of Russian roulette, 1 dead [AK] [Re: fapjack]
    #14143247 - 03/18/11 01:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Wow, and their commander comes to court to talk about how great these guys are?

What a senseless fucking thing to do, Russian roulette.  Fucking idiots.


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Re: Drunken game of Russian roulette, 1 dead [AK] [Re: amilibertine]
    #14143293 - 03/18/11 01:46 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Playing Russian Roulette is about as stupid as playing, well...Russian Roulette.


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Re: Drunken game of Russian roulette, 1 dead [AK] [Re: syke]
    #14143306 - 03/18/11 01:48 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

The fact that this is criminal and now the career of someone is going to be thrown down the drain is fucking disgusting.

It's incredibly dumb but they CHOSE to do it. There is nothing criminal about being a dumbass.


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Re: Drunken game of Russian roulette, 1 dead [AK] [Re: withoutawire]
    #14143419 - 03/18/11 02:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Drinken game of Russian roulette, 1 dead [AK]

well i would hope so, it would be pretty crazy if there was more than one winner/loser


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Re: Drunken game of Russian roulette, 1 dead [AK] [Re: fapjack]
    #14143797 - 03/18/11 03:26 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Funny that they never attribute shit like that happening to the alcohol. Had they been high on some substance the headlines would read "CRAZY KILLER DRUG TURNS SOLDIERS INTO MINDLESS MANIACS".


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Re: Drunken game of Russian roulette, 1 dead [AK] [Re: German Kahuna]
    #14145078 - 03/18/11 07:35 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I think they should ban this mysterious "al-kuḥl" substance they speak of. It is clearly too dangerous for mortals to dabble in.


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Re: Drunken game of Russian roulette, 1 dead [AK] [Re: German Kahuna]
    #14145311 - 03/18/11 08:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Funny that they never attribute shit like that happening to the alcohol. Had they been high on some substance the headlines would read "CRAZY KILLER DRUG TURNS SOLDIERS INTO MINDLESS MANIACS".




I know. I guess it's perfectly acceptable to be a drunk to some, never mind the fact that alcohol is a drug too. A highly addictive and destructive drug to boot.

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Re: Drunken game of Russian roulette, 1 dead [AK] [Re: withoutawire]
    #14145757 - 03/18/11 09:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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The fact that this is criminal and now the career of someone is going to be thrown down the drain is fucking disgusting.

It's incredibly dumb but they CHOSE to do it. There is nothing criminal about being a dumbass.




Damaging military property is a crime.  If a bunch of guys are goofing off and one of them ends up breaking his leg or something (say playing football) they can be held liable for that.

The military is fucking dumb.  I couldn't think of many worse things to do with my life.


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Re: Drunken game of Russian roulette, 1 dead [AK] [Re: German Kahuna]
    #14145923 - 03/18/11 10:02 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Funny that they never attribute shit like that happening to the alcohol. Had they been high on some substance the headlines would read "CRAZY KILLER DRUG TURNS SOLDIERS INTO MINDLESS MANIACS".




It annoys me that they only mentioned alcohol in the title and once in the article and didn't try to demonize it AT ALL. Just like you said, if it was any other drug, it would have been a huge fear mongering, propaganda article.


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Re: Drunken game of Russian roulette, 1 dead [AK] [Re: fapjack]
    #14146154 - 03/18/11 10:45 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

those guys are badass


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Re: Drunken game of Russian roulette, 1 dead [AK] [Re: German Kahuna]
    #14146444 - 03/18/11 11:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I think anyone that isn't a complete moron can see that alcohol contributes a lot more problems to society than any other drug.  I've never been drunk enough to play Russian roulette though, I think you can chalk this whole situation into stupidity.  I don't think he deserves to be imprisoned for his friends stupidity though, its not like he aimed the gun at his head and pulled the trigger.


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Re: Drunken game of Russian roulette, 1 dead [AK] [Re: Humility]
    #14146479 - 03/18/11 11:54 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Quote:

withoutawire said:
The fact that this is criminal and now the career of someone is going to be thrown down the drain is fucking disgusting.

It's incredibly dumb but they CHOSE to do it. There is nothing criminal about being a dumbass.




Damaging military property is a crime.  If a bunch of guys are goofing off and one of them ends up breaking his leg or something (say playing football) they can be held liable for that.

The military is fucking dumb.  I couldn't think of many worse things to do with my life.





Last time I checked blowing a hole in your head isn't breaking military property.


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Re: Drunken game of Russian roulette, 1 dead [AK] [Re: withoutawire]
    #14146615 - 03/19/11 12:37 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Give these motherfuckers props.

They were playing Russian roulette son, they don't give a fuck.


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Re: Drunken game of Russian roulette, 1 dead [AK] [Re: saxx]
    #14146875 - 03/19/11 02:04 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

dude there are actually quite a few cases like this, its actually one of the first things I remember looking up on the internet back in the day. The one that I really remember was two kids who got drunk and did russian roulette WITH AN AUTOMATIC :facepalm:


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Re: Drunken game of Russian roulette, 1 dead [AK] [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #14147157 - 03/19/11 04:44 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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The one that I really remember was two kids who got drunk and did russian roulette WITH AN AUTOMATIC :facepalm:




They obviously didn't understand how to play the game...

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Re: Drunken game of Russian roulette, 1 dead [AK] [Re: Ojom]
    #14147911 - 03/19/11 10:58 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

The might have just been testing out quantum suicide.


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Re: Drunken game of Russian roulette, 1 dead [AK] [Re: fapjack]
    #14148300 - 03/19/11 12:51 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

yeah, if I remember correctly they were middle schoolers or some shit, got really drunk and filmed their russian roulette, and after the first kid shot himself in the head the other kid still took his turn:facepalm:but he ended up in the hospital and confirmed that they were playing russian roulette, but later he too died.

I just remember thinking, even if you were stupid enough to play russian roulette with an automatic...WHY THE FUCK would you go after your friend just shot himself in the head? there are some dumbass motherfuckers out there, darwin award shit (actually come to think of it this might have been a darwin award)


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Re: Drunken game of Russian roulette, 1 dead [AK] [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #14148553 - 03/19/11 02:01 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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yeah, if I remember correctly they were middle schoolers or some shit, got really drunk and filmed their russian roulette, and after the first kid shot himself in the head the other kid still took his turn:facepalm:but he ended up in the hospital and confirmed that they were playing russian roulette, but later he too died.

I just remember thinking, even if you were stupid enough to play russian roulette with an automatic...WHY THE FUCK would you go after your friend just shot himself in the head? there are some dumbass motherfuckers out there, darwin award shit (actually come to think of it this might have been a darwin award)




Link?


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Re: Drunken game of Russian roulette, 1 dead [AK] [Re: saxx]
    #14149006 - 03/19/11 03:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I'll look for one...but I haven't read it in about, let see...7 years I think. My friends and I used to look that stuff up and then it just kind of became the sort of thing was was brought up from time to time through the years at parties and shit. To be fair that could mean some of the details have distorted, but I do remember clearly that two kids played russian roulette with an automatic


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