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OfflineCiggybones
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Pains in Right Arm
    #14146324 - 03/18/11 11:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Alright, I'm just going to try to keep this short if I can.

I've tripped on mushies a few times. I can count...7 times. The first three were pretty great experiences, I had a great time. The forth was just, way too intense. I don't know what kind they were, but they were strong. I tripped waaay hard, so I only really ended up enjoying my trip after I peeked. And during this particular trip, my skin became really, really red. Like I was having an some kind of reaction to it.

The next time I ate mushrooms, I didn't trip nearly as bad. But after my comedown, I was walking home and I started having pains in my right arm. Mostly my pinky, but it was spread around.

Then, the next time I tripped after that, I ate an 8th home alone and had a pretty intense trip. Wasn't all that bad, but meh, not all that great either. The pain in my right arm came back though, after I was done tripping. It hurt man, like my nerves were fucked up or something.

Okay, now yesterday, I ate half an 8th. Now, I confidently say that I will NEVER consume mushrooms again. As soon as I started tripping I felt the pain, except this time it was on my arm and on the right side of my torso and underneath my arm pit. This made the trip extremely mad uncomfortable. It was only half an 8th, and I can handle these kinds of drugs, so it didn't freak out or anything. But the pain was getting worse, and my body felt like it might give out. I became really tired, but I really didn't want to fall asleep. So, I got a ride home, and for the next two hours or so, I paced around my house moving my arm around, hoping the pain wouldn't get worse. The thoughts going in my head were "man, if I have to go to the fuckin hospital because I ate magic mushrooms...I'm gonna be pissed and disappointed."

Eventually, the pain pretty much went away. I chilled on the computer for awhile, smoked a joint, and felt pretty good. Then I ate some food, and the pain in my arm came back. I didn't get to sleep until very early in the morning.

The thoughts in my head is, I honestly really don't know what's happening. Maybe the poison is settling somehow in my nerves? I don't know. All I know, is it's kind of fucking worrisome thinking that you may lose your arm. I think having my strong will power and being able to relax myself in this situation honestly helped me.

So, I'm asking YOU guys to please respond to this. Maybe this is happened before to someone you know, or yourself. Maybe you have your own theory or explanation of what happened. I'm hoping this problem never resurfaces, and to be sure of it I will never consume any kind of magic mushroom again. Which sucks, because I'm not comfortable with taking LSD all too much in my life, and it's mad hard to get a hold of where I live. I've never tried mescaline or DMT though. But, the thing is, I love tripping. I'd consider myself an apprentice psychonaut.


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Re: Pains in Right Arm [Re: Ciggybones]
    #14146369 - 03/18/11 11:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

My mom told me a couple years ago that when you get pains in your left arm and around the armpit/under its got to do with your heart or something. She told me this because i too had pains but i wasn't
into psychedelics back then so i couldn't relate it to your experience.

(pretty stoned, if it doesnt make sense ignore it :feelsgoodman:)


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Re: Pains in Right Arm [Re: Metchit]
    #14146408 - 03/18/11 11:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

are you right-handed or left-handed? do you drink?
anything other than pain? could you move your arm well? how sensitive was your armhand area to sensations before during and after?
how's your diet?
and what's this about poison?


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Re: Pains in Right Arm [Re: R2-D2]
    #14146490 - 03/18/11 11:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm ambidextrous. And I used to be an alcoholic, but I don't drink too often anymore. I could move my arm alright, but my pinky was stuck and when I compared my right hand with my left, my right one was faaar from sturdy.


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Re: Pains in Right Arm [Re: Ciggybones]
    #14146530 - 03/19/11 12:07 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

This is just stress and trauma of the musclature exaserbated by psychedelic use. Chances are when you begin to come up, you get tense in your scalenes, omohyoid, pectoralic minor and teres minor muscles.

Now write those down, and go to a massage therapist. Hand them the list.


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Re: Pains in Right Arm [Re: Azure Essence]
    #14146545 - 03/19/11 12:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Sounds like anxiety/stress.


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Re: Pains in Right Arm [Re: withoutawire]
    #14146684 - 03/19/11 12:58 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Sounds as if you could be allergic to tryptamines. I had a severe allergic reaction to sumatriptan which gave me severe angina. When it first happened I didn't know what was going on. I was wondering if I was having anxiety, a panic attack or a fucking heart attack. It felt as if someone was standing on my chest and I was being strangled or something.

I am fine when I take mushrooms although others I know get varying degrees of tightness in their chests when they have taken mushrooms.

Check out the side effects from sumatriptan. You might find that you are experiencing the same as psilocybin are sumatript

Serious cardiac events, including some that have been fatal, have occurred following the use of Imitrex Injection or Tablets. Events reported have included coronary artery vasospasm, transient myocardial ischemia, myocardial infarction, ventricular tachycardia, and ventricular fibrillation.

The most common side-effects[12] reported by at least 2% of patients in controlled trials of Imitrex (25, 50, and 100mg tablets) for migraine are atypical sensations (paresthesias and warm/cold sensations) reported by 4% in the placebo group and 5-6% in the Imitrex groups, pain and other pressure sensations (including chest pain) reported by 4% in the placebo group and 6-8% in the Imitrex groups, neurological events (vertigo) reported by less than 1% in the placebo group and less than 1% to 2% in the Imitrex groups. Malaise/fatigue occurred in less than 1% of the placebo group and 2-3% of the Imitrex groups.


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Re: Pains in Right Arm [Re: migraineur]
    #14146728 - 03/19/11 01:14 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Sounds as if you could be allergic to tryptamines. I had a severe allergic reaction to sumatriptan which gave me severe angina. When it first happened I didn't know what was going on. I was wondering if I was having anxiety, a panic attack or a fucking heart attack. It felt as if someone was standing on my chest and I was being strangled or something.

I am fine when I take mushrooms although others I know get varying degrees of tightness in their chests when they have taken mushrooms.

Check out the side effects from sumatriptan. You might find that you are experiencing the same as psilocybin are sumatript

Serious cardiac events, including some that have been fatal, have occurred following the use of Imitrex Injection or Tablets. Events reported have included coronary artery vasospasm, transient myocardial ischemia, myocardial infarction, ventricular tachycardia, and ventricular fibrillation.

The most common side-effects[12] reported by at least 2% of patients in controlled trials of Imitrex (25, 50, and 100mg tablets) for migraine are atypical sensations (paresthesias and warm/cold sensations) reported by 4% in the placebo group and 5-6% in the Imitrex groups, pain and other pressure sensations (including chest pain) reported by 4% in the placebo group and 6-8% in the Imitrex groups, neurological events (vertigo) reported by less than 1% in the placebo group and less than 1% to 2% in the Imitrex groups. Malaise/fatigue occurred in less than 1% of the placebo group and 2-3% of the Imitrex groups.



Sulfa drug allergies are very common; I doubt your sumatriptan reaction have to do with the tryptamine structure in the molecule. Have you taken sulfa drugs in the past with no reaction?

Ciggybones, are you truly ambidextrous or do you use them both for different things, showing slight preference sometimes, sometimes not? My roommate prefers different hands for different things, and he went all psychedelic infantile the first time he ate mushrooms, it was by far the craziest behavior I have seen from a human being ever. But we're both still sending good vibes to the mushrooms, even with all the craziness. I would like to encourage you not to blame the mushrooms but instead further investigate the physiology of your right arm and the ways you use it.

Sorry this isn't as coherent as I'd like, I'm a bit floppy atm


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Re: Pains in Right Arm [Re: Metchit]
    #14146828 - 03/19/11 01:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Metchit said:
My mom told me a couple years ago that when you get pains in your left arm and around the armpit/under its got to do with your heart or something. She told me this because i too had pains but i wasn't
into psychedelics back then so i couldn't relate it to your experience.

(pretty stoned, if it doesnt make sense ignore it :feelsgoodman:)





Lots of time I get pain all over my body. I manifest pain as an emotional response. For instance, I broke my rules for stock trading recently and have had horrible headaches and physical pain, because I'm punishing myself.

All the fucking time when I get nervous or scared I tighten up my left art pit and sometimes even my arm. Shit right now I feel some guilt or anxiety about something and my left peck is all tight.

Also you can't rule out that someone wants you dead for what you are feeling or thinking. You took the test, you took psychedelic's, now learn the difference between their reality and what is true.


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Re: Pains in Right Arm [Re: migraineur]
    #14147360 - 03/19/11 07:29 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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The most common side-effects[12] reported by at least 2% of patients in controlled trials of Imitrex (25, 50, and 100mg tablets) for migraine are atypical sensations (paresthesias and warm/cold sensations) reported by 4% in the placebo group and 5-6% in the Imitrex groups, pain and other pressure sensations (including chest pain) reported by 4% in the placebo group and 6-8% in the Imitrex groups, neurological events (vertigo) reported by less than 1% in the placebo group and less than 1% to 2% in the Imitrex groups. Malaise/fatigue occurred in less than 1% of the placebo group and 2-3% of the Imitrex groups.




This sounds exactly like what just happened to a friend of mine (tonight).  She said her limbs felt hot and cold at the same time and like something was trying to slice its way out of them.  She also described sensations of pressure across her entire body(various parts at different time).

I'm having trouble understanding exactly to what these side-effects are attributable. Consistent/repeatable reaction or intermittent one?

I'm wondering whether ethanol extraction might be beneficial if she wanted to try again someday.


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Re: Pains in Right Arm [Re: Fischer]
    #14147403 - 03/19/11 08:03 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

While I do lean towards the stress/anxiety idea... Go to a doctor

You want to rule out any heart or circulation issue... Heart attack is probably not the problem, but dude... Go to a doctor... Get checked out....


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