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    #14142303 - 03/18/11 09:36 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

So over the years I've had the chance to try loads of different illicit LSD batches from all different parts of the world.  Now i know LSD is LSD, but how come some batches feel SO much different than others?  As stated on erowid, "Anyone with a discernible mind, and good memory can tell purity in batches is very real."

Now what I've had always kicked in within 20-30 minutes and it all felt VERY similar, but small changes in batches were noticed.  Mostly in the difference in visuals VS. mental effects.

First couple times I did acid it always felt the same, it had a great amount of mental changes, along with all the typical effects such as tracers and the "melting" effect.

But speed up a few years and i am purchasing my first vial!!  It was an awesome vile, but i noticed it was EXTREMELY colorful with not as much head fuck as some of the other acid I had done.  I saw tons of rainbow colors over everything which i normally don't see all that much on LSD.  More visuals but less color usually. It kicked in super fast (ate 6-7 one time and within just a few minutes i was already tripping pretty hard.)

Then sometimes I've had batches where everything in my field of vision was moving/melting like liquid, but it just lacked colors.  Had super crazy tracers, and everything but no rainbows like that other vial.

This latest acid I took was liquid and I noticed a huge amount of mental changes, but not that much in visual aspect.  Things would move and whatnot, but no hardcore colors; not very many things moving when you look around.  But mentally it had more effect than some of the other cid I've done.

Whats the deal Shroomery???  Ive heard of LSD and Iso-LSD so im going to look them up and maybe find my answer.....whats everyone else think....


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Re: Why do batches of LSD feel different??? [Re: AZrooj]
    #14142333 - 03/18/11 09:45 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

maybe its not always lsd-25. maybe they use anlogues of it active in that range? :shrug:


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Re: Why do batches of LSD feel different??? [Re: damnyoumongorians]
    #14142354 - 03/18/11 09:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

go look up the entries on analogues of lsd-25 in tihkal. it could be cuz youve gotten older and youve changed youre perspective on things blah blah blah


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Re: Why do batches of LSD feel different??? [Re: AZrooj]
    #14142385 - 03/18/11 10:04 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i don't know possibly an RC? i know 2ci is very rainbow colored... but i doubt that someone could diluted it in liquid to make full doses in just a drop (its active at the mg and lsd is active at the ug...) i don't know man but i also had some dose on blotter that seemed weaker than anything i had ever because i did more 12+ hits in one night, and i can also recall some rainbow colors from that


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Re: Why do batches of LSD feel different??? [Re: SurReality]
    #14142412 - 03/18/11 10:12 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i don't think i've ever had real LSD only once have i hallucinated from taking LSD (or what i have been told was LSD) and it was very mild, sitting on a rock smoking a joint in a forest when i looked down the whole rock was made of ants. other than that its really mild feeling, laughing and so on. i figure because i live in small isolated city some 10 000km from the nearest decent sized city its all an anlogues. i could be wrong and just need to stop only taking 5 tabs at a time, up my does to 10 or more.


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Re: Why do batches of LSD feel different??? [Re: mexicanjewlucas]
    #14142422 - 03/18/11 10:15 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

set and setting
maybe RCs
and possibly impurities
that's all I can think of


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Re: Why do batches of LSD feel different??? [Re: R2-D2]
    #14142468 - 03/18/11 10:26 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

who knows?!

none of us make the stuff, so no one is going to be able to give a real answer.

LSD is just an incredibly WEIRD substance...


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Re: Why do batches of LSD feel different??? [Re: Ajaxx]
    #14142530 - 03/18/11 10:38 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah totally.  All the stuff I took kicked in way to fast to be an RC. (You know the feeling you get literally right after taking LSD that is NOT placebo.)  After researching LSD it seems the analogues of LSD are sometimes harder to make, so i have a very hard time thinking its ALD-52 or something.  And supposedly the impurity's have no psychoactive effect and wont change the trip, so that part confuses me also because they were defiantly different.

Very strange indeed.

My other friend who was dosing the same batches says the same thing about it also, so I know its just not me.  Maybe that one vial really was an analogue, and all the others were probably just different doses, so it left me wondering WTF???

Any experienced trippers notice this from LSD over the years.  Or does every batch feel the same to all of you??  As LSD degrades does that change the trip?


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Re: Why do batches of LSD feel different??? [Re: AZrooj]
    #14142555 - 03/18/11 10:44 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

No I agree, different batches feel different to me for some reason...


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Re: Why do batches of LSD feel different??? [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
    #14142567 - 03/18/11 10:49 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

for me, set and setting can make even several doses from the same batch "feel" radically different


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Re: Why do batches of LSD feel different??? [Re: R2-D2]
    #14142646 - 03/18/11 11:03 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

If the LSD isn't cleaned properly after synthesis there could be remaining precursor alkaloids that colour the experience. I get zero visuals if I smoke weed with any psychedelic but that's just me and my friends I guess, slows our minds down and makes our trips confusing. 2C-I won't fit on blotter but I've been burned with DOB before. I knew it wasn't lsd even though I'd never tried it, found out later I was right. Also like others have mentioned tihkal has some interesting lysergamides like pro-lad, eth-lad etc which have been described as almost LSD but not LSD. Set, setting, degradation of the drug, past trips, current life events and drug use are also all factors. It's tricky to say.
edit: since it's in a vial it could be a whole range of RC's is it bitter? There are a few RC's people have described as being lsd like that have a similar duration.


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Re: Why do batches of LSD feel different??? [Re: Ajaxx]
    #14142666 - 03/18/11 11:07 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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LSD is just an incredibly WEIRD substance...




This. Seriously, there's no rhyme or reason to LSD...every time you start to think you understand it, it pulls the rug right out from under you and the entire experience takes a 180 degree turn.  Other drugs like mushrooms just seem so much more straightforward, I just can't figure out how this shit works!


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Re: Why do batches of LSD feel different??? [Re: R2-D2]
    #14142676 - 03/18/11 11:09 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The weird thing though it setting has always been the same. Mentally i feel the exact same.  But totally different visuals and mental shit, and like stated my best friend notices the same exact thing.

He says the same thing about the batches. We both describe that vial/all of our sheets in the same way.  Super odd?=(


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Re: Why do batches of LSD feel different??? [Re: AZrooj]
    #14142740 - 03/18/11 11:24 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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The weird thing though it setting has always been the same. Mentally i feel the exact same.  But totally different visuals and mental shit, and like stated my best friend notices the same exact thing.

He says the same thing about the batches. We both describe that vial/all of our sheets in the same way.  Super odd?=(




Isn't it pretty widely accepted that different acid has different tendencies?  From my experience all acid can do the same things, but different batches definitely have very different tendencies.  I tripped around 10-15 times with some high doses out of this batch recently that just did NOT want to give me any visuals...weirdest shit, straightup headrape.  Every single trip the first thing I would notice as it set in was there would be writing on my wall, which would disappear in a few minutes, and then from there I would proceed to get headfucked for 12 hours straight with no visuals.  Same deal on 1 hit or 6...then at one point on a six hitter I "found the answer" to the sort of continuous trip my recent trips had taken me on and as I did so I watched the entire universe break down into layers and "dissolve" away as I completely lost my sense of self and forgot who/where/what I was in a matter of seconds.  I was on the phone and I literally just stood there frozen with the phone still to my ear, I think the person I was talking to was talking to me but sound/sight were so warped I basically just had no clue what the fuck was going on.  I don't remember it super well, but I do remember my foot melting down into the ground as it lifted up around me and then just falling onto my bed and dissolving.


Anyway, sorry about the long-winded story, point is even though certain acid definitely has certain tendencies, that's not to say it can't flip.


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Re: Why do batches of LSD feel different??? [Re: tokinman21]
    #14142755 - 03/18/11 11:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

What would cause LSD to be different though?  When people synth LSD can it have other alkaloids that are hallucinogenic?  Like would one batch be LSD-25; then the next batch LSD-25 but not made totally right giving it a little bit of a different alkaloid ?

Batch 1: LSD-25 :thumbup:

Batch 2: Not synthed as good = LSD-25 and ???-?? :whatdoyouthink:


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Re: Why do batches of LSD feel different??? [Re: mexicanjewlucas]
    #14142821 - 03/18/11 11:47 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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i ...just need to stop only taking 5 tabs at a time, up my does to 10 or more.




If you're takin 5 tabs and getting no visuals you may be gettin something else... my test is 2, if 2 doesn't confuse you and make the walls move/create patterns then its either very weak/degraded or its not acid... instead of takin ten try a new  source. Goto a hippy festival


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Re: Why do batches of LSD feel different??? [Re: AZrooj]
    #14142840 - 03/18/11 11:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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i ...just need to stop only taking 5 tabs at a time, up my does to 10 or more.




If you're takin 5 tabs and getting no visuals you may be gettin something else... my test is 2, if 2 doesn't confuse you and make the walls move/create patterns then its either very weak/degraded or its not acid... instead of takin ten try a new  source. Goto a hippy festival




That's not necessarily true in my experience though...I mean, a couple hits should be able to induce visuals, but that doesn't mean it will.  Acid's weird shit man, you never know what it's gonna do.  A super heady trip, like I described earlier, can easily pull you away from the visual aspects of the drug.  The tenstrip I ate of that recent batch, while obviously inifitely more intense, was less visual than 2 hits I once had from a different batch.


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Re: Why do batches of LSD feel different??? [Re: tokinman21]
    #14143064 - 03/18/11 12:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Set and setting.


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Re: Why do batches of LSD feel different??? [Re: TagoMago]
    #14143074 - 03/18/11 12:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

if there were other psychoactive chemicals that come out in the synth of LSD, it would be well documented. its not like LSD was never researched...

LSD is LSD

set and setting play a HUGE factor into it.


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