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Re: 3 Days Later! [Re: McDude]
    #14105355 - 03/11/11 06:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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My sig is Puerto Rican,Columbian Rust Spore and Costa Rican. The cakes were verm/brf as per the pf tek. They are either b+ or puerto rican, 2 I had to begin with and don't remember which they were. They sat in a regular SGFC for 2 weeks and did nothing. Then I rigged up something different and they sat in that for quite a while before doing anything.

You said you mix was wonky?? hah what does that exactly mean? They look like they are fine. Really think if you mist heavy then fan with your fan to evaporate and your humidity is ok in between then they should do something.




Thanks man!  I took your advice and started using a small electric fan to fan them last night... this morning about about 5 more pins popped up on various cakes!  How often do you fan them?  You said you mist 2 times a day and fan every hour?

Also, yeah, I didn't know about RR's videos when I first started, so I followed this other tek where the ratio of Verm:BRF was 3:1 instead of 2:1, so my cakes don't have enough BRF. :frown:

Do you think that could be the reason my pins are growing at all different rates?  From the pics of your cake you shared, all your pins seemed to have grown together.  Or is it a FAE matter?


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Re: 3 Days Later! [Re: Teemo]
    #14105383 - 03/11/11 06:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Oh, and another question for any who are reading: are my shrooms considered small (probably around the size of a lighter)?  They really shriveled up and are tiny now that they're dry.  I've seen photos with mushrooms with huuuge fat stems...

Is their small size because of my weird 3:1 ratio of verm:BRF?  Genetics, perhaps?  Or just luck?


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Re: 3 Days Later! [Re: Teemo]
    #14105642 - 03/11/11 07:42 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

My room is automated so it fans itself for 20 mins every hour. Doing what your doing I would mist heavy twice a day and hit them with your electric fan. To evaporate the moisture. Like you have been doing.

In addition fan with the lid for 30 secs a few times a day if possible. There is really no such thing as too much FAE as long as your humidity is staying up and things aren't drying out. Along with misting heavy twice you can give them a light mist if things should look dry. It's just all about finding that perfect balance of RH/FAE and moisture evaporation.

Genetics do play a good part in mush size etc...your brf mix being off also means less nutrients in your cakes which will effect things. I can't say really with any certainty what causes erratic pin formation. Maybe someone else will chime in on that. Back to genetics and environmental conditions probably.

I wouldn't say there is anything wrong with the size of your mushrooms. They are 90% or more water and shrink alot when dry. Always sad to see. I personally find smaller shrooms to be more potent, personal opinion yada yada. I know I trip harder from smaller ones..


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Re: 3 Days Later! [Re: McDude]
    #14107797 - 03/12/11 08:01 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Its a crap shoot with cakes and ms syringes, if you want big flushes try bulk grains or WBS.


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Re: First Grow with PICS - How am I doing? [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14116970 - 03/13/11 10:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Alright... I just have to say guys, McDude is a genius.  :bow2::bow2:

I've been using an electric fan on my shrooms a few minutes about every hour, and now there are pins EVERYWHERE!!  On all the cakes!!


:whoo: :dancer:

I've harvested 1.1g dry so far (which I know, it's not much, but for my first grow I'm stoked), and I can't wait to see how these new pins turn out.  Unfortunately, no signs of anything on the trays... I'm not sure why.  Again, these are trays cased with coco coir and vermiculite.



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Re: First Grow with PICS - How am I doing? [Re: Teemo]
    #14127037 - 03/15/11 08:14 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Just some more pics... nothing too drastic from last time. :P



I'm gonna pose the question again as to why I'm getting a lot of long, thin stems and small mushrooms whose veils break when they're still tiny.

I circled some examples in red.

I read that long, thin stems are a sign of not enough FAE, but I fan them every hour for a good 2-5 minutes.  And if the cakes seem wet in the photos, it's since I just misted them.  Fanning takes away a lot of the humidity (down to 60-70%), so I mist a lot to bring it back up.  Could my thin stems be because of my 3:1 Verm:BRF ratio instead of 2:1?  Genetics?  Too much misting?

Is there anything I can do to help them grow bigger?


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Re: First Grow with PICS - How am I doing? [Re: Teemo]
    #14127246 - 03/15/11 08:51 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

All the FAE you will ever need can be given by a properly built SGFC raised up with 4 jars, glasses, or similar spacers to raise the bottom up to expose the bottom holes,in an open room with a window cracked and properly hydrated perlite. The fanning is just ti stir up any carbon dioxide that is in the FC.

Either there is something wrong with your FC or you have a very dry house with stale air. Did you ever check the bottom by digging a hole and seeing if water pooled in the middle?


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Re: First Grow with PICS - How am I doing? [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14127961 - 03/15/11 10:51 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Hmm, I know the SGFC was perfectly designed for FAE, but I was under the impression that extra fanning couldn't hurt.  Here's my SGFC, see if it looks okay to you:



The drill bit I used was 1/4" and I even used a ruler to put them all exactly 2" apart.  It's raised on shot glasses (the cardboard under the shot glasses is just to keep them from slipping).  There are holes on all 6 sides, and about 4-5" of perlite.

Also, I don't think my house is very dry - it's an old single-walled house in Hawaii, so it's always pretty humid here.  The SGFC is in front of a window, but that one is closed - there's a window to the left (not pictured) which I always pull the curtain off so wind + sunlight comes through (sunlight doesn't directly shine on the SGFC).

The set-up is in my room, but I live in a house with roommates and it's the only place I could put it without fear of them fucking with it.  Does it look okay? :/  Anything I should do to modify it?

Edited by Teemo (03/15/11 10:52 PM)

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Re: First Grow with PICS - How am I doing? [Re: Teemo]
    #14127972 - 03/15/11 10:54 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Oh, and I haven't done that digging-a-hole thing - do you mean to dig a hole in the perlite to see if there's water pooled up in it?  I can't imagine there is... when I first put the perlite in, water freely dripped out the bottom.  At one point during the first few days of having my SGFC, I was worried about humidity so I poured a little bit of water on the perlite and it just drained right out.  But if that's what you mean, I'll go do that later tonight and see what's going on in there.


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Re: First Grow with PICS - How am I doing? [Re: Teemo]
    #14128268 - 03/15/11 11:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

never pour, spray, the perlite sticks together and hold the water in, blocking the bottom holes. Get some paper towels, raise th FC up on 4 glasses or something where you can look at it with a flash light. Tear the paper towels and tear them into 2 or 3 inch strips, twist the pieces into spiral wick shapes and put them in the lowest holes and let it drain until there is no more standing water. Your RH will go up if your bottom holes are working.


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Re: First Grow with PICS - How am I doing? [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14128274 - 03/15/11 11:44 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

put a bowl under it to catch the water.


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Re: First Grow with PICS - How am I doing? [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14131884 - 03/16/11 03:52 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Well, I dug around in my perlite and I definitely do not have any standing water in there, although it was nice to see that even the perlite on the bottom of the SGFC was still damp.  So no need for draining here!


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Time do dunk some cakes for second flush? [Re: Teemo]
    #14140380 - 03/17/11 11:02 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I've harvested 2.6g dry so far - my shrooms are really tiny!  Well, at least it's enough for me!  :rofl: I've probably got another gram or so drying on a fan right now.  Here's a photo of about the size of stuff I've been picking:


Small, but they're already sporulating, so. :frown:

My cakes have been constantly pinning, so I really don't know how to differentiate between flushes.  I've got one cake that barely had any pins on it, so I just dunked it to see if that'll make a difference, and to compare between that dunked cake and the other non-dunked second-flush cakes.  I have one other cake that could be a dunk candidate, what do you guys think?


Dunk or no?

I wouldn't have been able to dunk it sooner - it had some big pins just breaking their veils.  Picked those off today, so now I can consider it.  I've read a lot of conflicting info on dunking with pins.

I probably won't be able to dunk any of the others because they've got pins of all sizes and stages going on.


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Re: Time do dunk some cakes for second flush? [Re: Teemo]
    #14140573 - 03/17/11 11:34 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Looking good for your first go around and a "wacky" BRF cake :smile: McDude great idea with using a little electric fan rather than just fanning with the lid! Tis pure genius.


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Re: Time do dunk some cakes for second flush? [Re: freeskierpj]
    #14140612 - 03/17/11 11:40 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Looking good for your first go around and a "wacky" BRF cake :smile: McDude great idea with using a little electric fan rather than just fanning with the lid! Tis pure genius.




Absolutely! I probably would still be waiting for pins to form if I was still just using the lid. :tongue2:


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Re: Time do dunk some cakes for second flush? [Re: Teemo]
    #14140890 - 03/18/11 12:28 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I would at least top and bottom case with verm if you aren't going to do a 12 hour dunk.


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Re: Time do dunk some cakes for second flush? [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14141101 - 03/18/11 01:13 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Oh shit lol I forgot to dunk my African Traskei cake...it had some invitro pins and I just completely spaced on dunking or casing in...hmmm it's been in there 2 days should I take it out and dunk and roll?


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Re: Time do dunk some cakes for second flush? [Re: freeskierpj]
    #14141109 - 03/18/11 01:14 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

yep.

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Re: Time do dunk some cakes for second flush? [Re: biologys]
    #14141123 - 03/18/11 01:16 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

12 or 24 hour dunk?


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Re: Time do dunk some cakes for second flush? [Re: freeskierpj]
    #14141132 - 03/18/11 01:18 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i'd go ahead with 12, then mist few times in the first couple hours after you put back into the FC

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