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Re: Good Bye Click And Clank. [Re: jebustrist]
    #14164245 - 03/22/11 12:03 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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For all the NPR haters - can you honestly point to a better free(radio cost is negligible), widespread and objective source of news in the lower 48?





The internet?

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On a daily basis NPR does more than just provide a smattering of headlines with more Charlie Sheen coverage; they examine the deep causes which manifest themselves in a variety seemingly separate events. 




I heard a segment about how Ken is trying to get Barbie to get back together with him on NPR a few weeks ago.  I shit you not.

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You also don't have to put up with greedy mega-corporations selling you shit you don't need for problems you don't have.




Oh, but I do have to put up with advertisements for investment firms and banks.  NPR is not advertisement-free, at least where I live.

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Re: Good Bye Click And Clank. [Re: ChuangTzu]
    #14164259 - 03/22/11 12:05 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

NPR accepts advertising for groups and companies I could never support in good conscience. 

Personally I don't care much if they survive or not.  I would just quit listening to radio altogether.

Anyone want to buy a Tivoli Audio Model Two radio with separate base and stereo speakers? Sounds better than the Bose and costs less.


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Re: Good Bye Click And Clank. [Re: Icelander]
    #14164266 - 03/22/11 12:07 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Reality has a well-known progressive/liberal bias(using the american political definitions of those words).

For all the NPR haters - can you honestly point to a better free(radio cost is negligible), widespread and objective source of news in the lower 48?  MSNBC, Fox, CNN, etc. are all controlled by mega-corporations who only have an interest in shallow sensationalist coverage at best and cynical political objectives at worst.  On a daily basis NPR does more than just provide a smattering of headlines with more Charlie Sheen coverage; they examine the deep causes which manifest themselves in a variety seemingly separate events.  You also don't have to put up with greedy mega-corporations selling you shit you don't need for problems you don't have.




I have zero interest in any in depth reporting and analysis by a bunch of biased commie hacks.  If they can survive on their own then let them.  Otherwise, fuck them.  And anybody who turns to radio or television for "in depth analysis" is as shallow as a piece of paper.





Commie hacks? :lol:  Can you provide evidence of this claim?  (I mean real evidence and not one of your silly rants)



NPR?  Are you fucking joking?  They are admittedly massively liberal.


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Re: Good Bye Click And Clank. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14164276 - 03/22/11 12:09 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Liberal no more = commie than Conservative = ignorant ass hole although one might want to make the claim.

Evidence please?


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Re: Good Bye Click And Clank. [Re: jebustrist]
    #14164284 - 03/22/11 12:11 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Who cares if they're Nazis as long as they don't let it affect their reporting(spoiler: they don't)?  I'm guessing you haven't spent much time listening to NPR if you think that it's somehow 'shallow'...Where do you get your information O Wise One?



I read things.  Lots of things.  The NY Times cover to cover every day.  National Review.  Many blogs with links.  There is no depth in TV or radio.  There really can't be.  Those media are by definition shallow.  Since you love NPR so much be sure to send them money.  Thankfully I won't have to any more.


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Re: Good Bye Click And Clank. [Re: Icelander]
    #14164306 - 03/22/11 12:13 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Liberal no more = commie than Conservative = ignorant ass hole although one might want to make the claim.

Evidence please?



Bullshit.  Liberal most certainly is relevant to commie.  "Ignorant asshole" is more relevant to liberal than it is to conservative.  Consider myself the archetypical conservative.  Consider Annapurna the archetypical liberal.  'Nuff said.


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Re: Good Bye Click And Clank. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14164366 - 03/22/11 12:28 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

It's hard to take anything you say seriously anymore. 

Remember I asked for proofs and not silly rants.

I don't take either you or her seriously. Unfortunately imo you both represent most of humanity. :lol:


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Re: Good Bye Click And Clank. [Re: Icelander]
    #14164425 - 03/22/11 12:38 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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It's hard to take anything you say seriously anymore. 

Remember I asked for proofs and not silly rants.

I don't take either you or her seriously. Unfortunately imo you both represent most of humanity. :lol:



OK, trustafarian, you're real special.  Am I correct that you are unaware NPR is riddled with liberals?  Because if you are I find it hard to take anything you say seriously.  Because you aren't paying attention.  I don't really think I need to prove the sun comes up for you, do I?


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Re: Good Bye Click And Clank. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14164663 - 03/22/11 01:33 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Just because there may be liberals who work at NPR doesn't mean that their coverage is biased.  Indeed every independent assessment of their coverage finds it to be reliably nonpartisan and accurate.

I find it hilariously predictable that you list the national review as one of your reliable sources :rolleyes:

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I heard a segment about how Ken is trying to get Barbie to get back together with him on NPR a few weeks ago.  I shit you not.




What percentage of their content is made up of such stories.  Obviously anyone can find an outlier and present it out of context.  Pieces like the ones you have mentioned are typically presented later in the broadcast and add a bit of levity to what could otherwise be a very depressing parade of bad news(embroiled in two wars, high unemployment, rich getting richer by stealing from the rest of us, enabled by morally and intellectually bankrupt politicians and the idiots who vote for them).  I actually think it's important to maintain an interest in a variety of topics, cultural as well as political and economic.

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Re: Good Bye Click And Clank. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14164913 - 03/22/11 02:22 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Icelander said:
It's hard to take anything you say seriously anymore. 

Remember I asked for proofs and not silly rants.

I don't take either you or her seriously. Unfortunately imo you both represent most of humanity. :lol:



OK, trustafarian, you're real special.  Am I correct that you are unaware NPR is riddled with liberals?  Because if you are I find it hard to take anything you say seriously.  Because you aren't paying attention.  I don't really think I need to prove the sun comes up for you, do I?





Liberals are not (always) commies just as conservatives are not always greedy fear driven assholes.  And of course I know NPR is a very liberal news media. That's not relevant to them  being commies as you claimed. :crazy2:

You seem to resent the fact that I retired early (mostly due to skillful investing and saving)  Not my problem. If you're not capable of it don't be envious of those that are.  Not everyone is skillful in managing money. Besides you're really old and you won't have long to wait to be on the dole.  :satansmoking:


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Re: Good Bye Click And Clank. [Re: Icelander]
    #14165182 - 03/22/11 03:11 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Icelander said:
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zappaisgod said:
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Icelander said:
It's hard to take anything you say seriously anymore. 

Remember I asked for proofs and not silly rants.

I don't take either you or her seriously. Unfortunately imo you both represent most of humanity. :lol:



OK, trustafarian, you're real special.  Am I correct that you are unaware NPR is riddled with liberals?  Because if you are I find it hard to take anything you say seriously.  Because you aren't paying attention.  I don't really think I need to prove the sun comes up for you, do I?





Liberals are not (always) commies just as conservatives are not always greedy fear driven assholes.  And of course I know NPR is a very liberal news media. That's not relevant to them  being commies as you claimed. :crazy2:




1.  Liberals are commies.

2.  Who is more driven by fear?  Liberals or conservatives.  Your premise that conservatives are is stupid.  Liberals are so fear driven that they can't accept responsibility for themselves.  They need gummint nanny.
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You seem to resent the fact that I retired early (mostly due to skillful investing and saving)  Not my problem. If you're not capable of it don't be envious of those that are.  Not everyone is skillful in managing money. Besides you're really old and you won't have long to wait to be on the dole.  :satansmoking:




I don't resent anything, I live a good life, probably better than yours.  None of it was handed to me, either.  What I find disgusting is your dismissal of the vast bulk of humanity as somehow beneath you.  Nice pompous seat you have created for yourself. 

By the way, who is more fearful than you with your endless death anxiety nonsense?


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Re: Good Bye Click And Clank. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14165367 - 03/22/11 03:48 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Once again with the whiney pointless rants.

Show some proof that liberals are commies or STFU.

Your assertions from the pulpit are worthless. :satansmoking:
http://www.watchblog.com/republicans/archives/002969.html
http://www.differencebetween.net/miscellaneous/difference-between-communism-and-liberalism/


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Edited by Icelander (03/22/11 04:16 PM)

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Re: Good Bye Click And Clank. [Re: Icelander]
    #14166401 - 03/22/11 06:43 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Icelander said:
Once again with the whiney pointless rants.

Show some proof that liberals are commies or STFU.




What's the diff?  Seriously.
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Your assertions from the pulpit are worthless. :satansmoking:
http://www.watchblog.com/republicans/archives/002969.html
http://www.differencebetween.net/miscellaneous/difference-between-communism-and-liberalism/




Nice links.  Too bad thy don't understand the difference between "Classical" liberalism and liberalism as it is used today.


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Re: Good Bye Click And Clank. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14166433 - 03/22/11 06:47 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Prove to me with some solid evidence that liberals are commies. That's all I've asked of you and you have ignored that request with every post you've made.  It's a very simple and straight forward request based on your statement.


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Re: Good Bye Click And Clank. [Re: Icelander]
    #14166557 - 03/22/11 07:05 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2011/03/somebody-has-written-workers-of-world.html

"Workers of the world unite" is straight out of the communist manifesto.  That is the face of liberalism today.


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Re: Good Bye Click And Clank. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14166649 - 03/22/11 07:18 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Good Bye Click And Clank. [Re: Icelander]
    #14166804 - 03/22/11 08:09 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

He knows what he's talking about and is well-informed, he reads the national review!

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Re: Good Bye Click And Clank. [Re: jebustrist]
    #14166874 - 03/22/11 08:32 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

And he calls me a troll and now is over in the Philosophy forum trolling and name calling  cause he's all pissed off.


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Re: Good Bye Click And Clank. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14168629 - 03/23/11 07:27 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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Icelander said:
Once again with the whiney pointless rants.

Show some proof that liberals are commies or STFU.




What's the diff?  Seriously.
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Your assertions from the pulpit are worthless. :satansmoking:
http://www.watchblog.com/republicans/archives/002969.html
http://www.differencebetween.net/miscellaneous/difference-between-communism-and-liberalism/




Nice links.  Too bad thy don't understand the difference between "Classical" liberalism and liberalism as it is used today.




As it is used today by who? The fearful, bleating right or people who know what words mean?

Communism speaks to the ownership of the means of production.

Liberalism speaks to the degree of egalitarianism society holds as a goal (Industrial "classical" liberals and modern "social" liberals actually do hold this common belief, after all)

conservatism speaks to a society's willingness to change and the value it places on the status quo

None of these things are opposites, and none of these terms are being used correctly by society at large; particularly in the current american political climate the so called "conservative" right is actually a regressive movement, the so called "small government" movement is actually a pro police-military hegemony movement, and the entire right seems to be actively invested in the destruction of truth.

Likewise, it doesn't matter what "liberalism" meant a few hundred years ago for purposes of this discussion - liberalism hasn't meant "libertarian" for a century, just as republican and abolitionist have ceased to be synonyms.

Their response when questioned? "Well, the 'other side' is 'just as bad'" ... except there is no one other side, there's just everyone else, and there's no "just as bad" there's really just "doesn't agree with us."

I concur with you and Al Franken that broadcast media is essentially short attention span and shallow, however NPR is perhaps the single entity attempting exception to this rule.


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Re: Good Bye Click And Clank. [Re: JohnnyConverse]
    #14169319 - 03/23/11 10:58 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Yet another who thinks he wrote the dictionary.

"Fearful" right?  Mary, most of the calls of doom and gloom come from the left.:facepalm:


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