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Re: Is it just me, or is Eckhart Tolle kinda a tool? [Re: ZenXi6]
#14143039 - 03/18/11 12:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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ZenXi6 said: Seriously...
Yeah, he has some ideas... that pretty much all of us have, and that people have had for decades.. centuries... millenia.
Yet, he speaks slowly, as if it's some new concept, speaks about it as if it's all new... and sells it all at a schmiko, well branded, well marketed PRICE!
I can't help but feel that this is exactly where we go wrong with things... from good idea to dogma, from individual to idol, from sharing to profiteering. It creates hierarchy.
and he has small eyes. don't trust a man with small eyes.
Eckhart Tolle
Bingo! Each generation has their crop of guru's that they worship. Yet they aren't saying anything the old guru didn't. I say go with the first guru and forget the one's you have to pay to see.
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Re: Is it just me, or is Eckhart Tolle kinda a tool? [Re: Icelander]
#14143061 - 03/18/11 12:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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What if meeting one in the flesh is kinda the point of it? 
Im not saying that's the point for everyone, but for a lot of people it is. It's about surrender & you either gotta be very humble & or very stupid to surrender to another human being (depending on who that human is)
I do agree that you should just look to see all these guys are saying essentially the same thing, and to focus on that rather than nitpicking about the teachers themselves.
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Re: Is it just me, or is Eckhart Tolle kinda a tool? [Re: Chronic7]
#14143153 - 03/18/11 01:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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ken wilber is getting older and the shit he is saying is much...less good 
i think he's somebody who really should've stayed out of the public eye. By his own admission he does still have "shadow" elements, and i get the sense he's up in his head quite a bit. Still a very wise being though, and some of his older videos where he's really in it are terrific. But yeah, he's very into the whole "constructive criticism" thing
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Re: Is it just me, or is Eckhart Tolle kinda a tool? [Re: g00ru]
#14143515 - 03/18/11 02:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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In how many new ways can one describe the timeless? And to what effect can one speak to eternal space? Are the monks who chant and pray to an empty room any different from the show man who clacks at a full house? Is it an evolving balance we must maintain and practice or more simply a diversity arising out of the ineffable?
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Re: Is it just me, or is Eckhart Tolle kinda a tool? [Re: Chronic7]
#14143686 - 03/18/11 03:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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The Chronic said: What if meeting one in the flesh is kinda the point of it? 
Im not saying that's the point for everyone, but for a lot of people it is. It's about surrender & you either gotta be very humble & or very stupid to surrender to another human being (depending on who that human is)
I do agree that you should just look to see all these guys are saying essentially the same thing, and to focus on that rather than nitpicking about the teachers themselves.
I met Ram Dass in the flesh. Not impressed.
or very stupid
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Re: Is it just me, or is Eckhart Tolle kinda a tool? [Re: Icelander]
#14144015 - 03/18/11 04:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey Icelander,
Can you put into words what would impress you? What qualities would someone have to have to pass your sniff test?
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Re: Is it just me, or is Eckhart Tolle kinda a tool? [Re: Cups]
#14144085 - 03/18/11 04:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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eckart tool
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Re: Is it just me, or is Eckhart Tolle kinda a tool? [Re: foliocb]
#14144124 - 03/18/11 04:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Fuck heroes anyway. Find someone to worship within yourself.
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Re: Is it just me, or is Eckhart Tolle kinda a tool? [Re: circastes]
#14144132 - 03/18/11 04:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just how many people you got in there circastes?
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Re: Is it just me, or is Eckhart Tolle kinda a tool? [Re: ZenXi6]
#14144572 - 03/18/11 06:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Eckert Tolle always bring to my mind the following passage from The Restaurant at the End of the Universe by Douglas Adams
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Ford's technique seemed to consist mainly of standing still for a while and smiling. After a while an animal - a deer perhaps - would appear from out of the trees and watch him cautiously. Ford would continue to smile at it, his eyes would soften and shine, and he would seem to radiate a deep and universal love, a love which reached out to embrace all of creation. A wonderful quietness would descend on the surrounding countryside, peaceful and serene, emanating from this transfigured man. Slowly the deer would approach, step by step, until it was almost nuzzling him, whereupon Ford Prefect would reach out to it and break its neck. "Pheromone control," he said it was, "you just have to know how to generate the right smell."
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Re: Is it just me, or is Eckhart Tolle kinda a tool? [Re: Cups]
#14144590 - 03/18/11 06:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Cups said: Hey Icelander,
Can you put into words what would impress you? What qualities would someone have to have to pass your sniff test?
Well they'd have to be like Don Juan from the Castaneda books.
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Re: Is it just me, or is Eckhart Tolle kinda a tool? [Re: I AM SWIM]
#14144733 - 03/18/11 06:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I AM SWIM said: Cmon' Small eyes? never trust a man with small eyes? LOL

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Re: Is it just me, or is Eckhart Tolle kinda a tool? [Re: Icelander]
#14144945 - 03/18/11 07:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Icelander said:
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Cups said: Hey Icelander,
Can you put into words what would impress you? What qualities would someone have to have to pass your sniff test?
Well they'd have to be like Don Juan from the Castaneda books.
thats retarded nobody is gonna try to impress you, unless you are actually in some crazy desert situation. Your reaction to Ram Das is dissapointing to say tha least
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Re: Is it just me, or is Eckhart Tolle kinda a tool? [Re: g00ru]
#14145047 - 03/18/11 07:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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No your reaction to Ram Dass is disappointing to say the least.
I have friends that make no special claims about themselves that do impress me a lot from time to time.
You seem confused.
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Re: Is it just me, or is Eckhart Tolle kinda a tool? [Re: Icelander]
#14145098 - 03/18/11 07:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Icelander said: No your reaction to Ram Dass is disappointing to say the least.
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Re: Is it just me, or is Eckhart Tolle kinda a tool? [Re: Icelander]
#14145103 - 03/18/11 07:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Icelander said: No your reaction to Ram Dass is disappointing to say the least.
I have friends that make no special claims about themselves that do impress me a lot from time to time.
You seem confused.

i am confused but not about Ram Das
you're judging him mad unfairly
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Re: Is it just me, or is Eckhart Tolle kinda a tool? [Re: g00ru]
#14145118 - 03/18/11 07:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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And how pray tell would you know if I was judging him unfairly?
I never mentioned how I judged him. Seems like you are biased in his favor. Have you ever even met him?
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#14145126 - 03/18/11 07:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Is it just me, or is Eckhart Tolle kinda a tool? [Re: deff]
#14145225 - 03/18/11 08:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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You need to get off the sauce.
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Re: Is it just me, or is Eckhart Tolle kinda a tool? [Re: Cups] 1
#14145297 - 03/18/11 08:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Cups said: Just how many people you got in there circastes? 
It's an army by now.
Sometimes it takes over and I lash out at trees.
I end up with shifted knuckles and green shit all over my face, spitting out a leaf just as Community Mental Health rolls by and I have to call in alien air support.
Fucking trees...
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