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The exclusionary rule does not apply during grand jury proceedings.
    #14139345 - 03/17/11 08:42 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Why is this so? Why do they refuse to dismiss evidence before a grand jury? Do they submit the evidence, but you still have a chance to have it dismissed and the case thrown out, or what? I have an indictment before a grand jury coming up in a few months, and I was hoping to have the evidence and the case dismissed due to illegal search and seizure. Am I screwed here, or would I still be able to pull it off?

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For example, the exclusionary rule does not apply to evidence presented to a grand jury; the exclusionary rule states that evidence obtained in violation of the Fourth, Fifth or Sixth amendments cannot be introduced in court.




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Re: The exclusionary rule does not apply during grand jury proceedings. [Re: destructo_low]
    #14139454 - 03/17/11 09:00 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I would seriously consider a lawyer.

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Re: The exclusionary rule does not apply during grand jury proceedings. [Re: destructo_low]
    #14139468 - 03/17/11 09:03 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Yes I believe that is accurate since the grand jury does not determine guilt, only whether a crime has been committed.  (" A grand jury proceeding is not an adversary hearing in which the guilt or innocence of the accused is adjudicated. Rather, it is an ex parte investigation to determine  whether a crime has been committed and whether criminal proceedings should be instituted against any person. HN1The grand jury's investigative power must be broad if its public responsibility is adequately to be discharged." US v. Calandra, 414 U.S. 338, 343, 344.

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Re: The exclusionary rule does not apply during grand jury proceedings. [Re: destructo_low]
    #14139483 - 03/17/11 09:05 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

"The purpose of the Fourth Amendment is to prevent unreasonable governmental intrusions into the privacy of one's person, house, papers, or effects. The wrong condemned is the unjustified governmental invasion of these areas of an individual's life. That wrong, committed in this case, is fully accomplished by the original search without probable cause. Grand jury questions based on evidence obtained thereby involve no independent governmental invasion of one's person, house, papers, or effects, but rather the usual abridgment of personal privacy common to all grand jury questioning. Questions based on illegally obtained evidence are only a derivative use of the product of a past unlawful search and seizure. They work no new Fourth Amendment wrong. Whether such derivative use of illegally obtained evidence by a grand jury should be proscribed presents a question, not of rights, but of remedies."

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Re: The exclusionary rule does not apply during grand jury proceedings. [Re: shroomer8er]
    #14139550 - 03/17/11 09:17 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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shroomer8er said:
I would seriously consider a lawyer.




I've got one.


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Re: The exclusionary rule does not apply during grand jury proceedings. [Re: destructo_low]
    #14142107 - 03/18/11 08:34 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Then why are you asking us idiots?


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Re: The exclusionary rule does not apply during grand jury proceedings. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14142716 - 03/18/11 11:19 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Then why are you asking us idiots?




Because this way, sooner or later, he'll get the answer he WANTS to hear.

Won't matter if it's right or not. It'll satisfy his preconceived notion of what's right or wrong.


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