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Ginto
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Anything more powerful then DMT or Ayahuasca?
#14138776 - 03/17/11 07:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I couldn't even imagine something more intense. I wouldn't try it but am curious, maybe some obscure drug or something? Does anyone know?
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stranger_danger
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Re: Anything more powerful then DMT or Ayahuasca? [Re: Ginto]
#14138857 - 03/17/11 07:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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to my knowledge DMT is the most powerful hallucinogen out there
you find something better u let me know, cause i am DOWWWWWWWN
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Re: Anything more powerful then DMT or Ayahuasca? [Re: stranger_danger]
#14138928 - 03/17/11 07:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just some 45 calibur Hollow-pointicybe bulletus.
You're trip fucking DICKS forever.
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Re: Anything more powerful then DMT or Ayahuasca? [Re: Azure Essence]
#14139128 - 03/17/11 08:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I heard an experience of somewhat who took Belladona seeds and tripped for three days straight, hallucinated his balls off, and ended up being put in a straight jacket for the last two days of his trip. I don't know if the visual experience in itself is more intense but i'd certainly say the overall experience would be more intense. i wouldn't recommend it though because i hear the seeds are poisonous
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Re: Anything more powerful then DMT or Ayahuasca? [Re: JacksonMetaller]
#14139168 - 03/17/11 08:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah I believe Belladonna is called Deadly Nightshade for good reason..
Salvia extract is as strong IMO, just nasty and confrontational rather than enjoyable.
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Re: Anything more powerful then DMT or Ayahuasca? [Re: JacksonMetaller]
#14139170 - 03/17/11 08:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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LOVE IS THE MOST POWERFUL DRUG OK
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Re: Anything more powerful then DMT or Ayahuasca? [Re: ManyAk]
#14139196 - 03/17/11 08:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Maybe a severe K-hole would compare in terms of weirdness. But.... FUCK KETAMINE IT KILLS PEOPLE.
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Re: Anything more powerful then DMT or Ayahuasca? [Re: ManyAk]
#14139199 - 03/17/11 08:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Anything more powerful then DMT or Ayahuasca? [Re: Austrip]
#14139251 - 03/17/11 08:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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5meo-DMT is 10x as potent as NN-DMT.
Also look into Ibogaine. Theres nothing more powerfull than that.
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Re: Anything more powerful then DMT or Ayahuasca? [Re: cpw1971]
#14139288 - 03/17/11 08:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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If you need something more powerful than DMT, you arent doing DMT right.
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Re: Anything more powerful then DMT or Ayahuasca? [Re: cpw1971]
#14139333 - 03/17/11 08:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ginto said: I couldn't even imagine something more intense. I wouldn't try it but am curious, maybe some obscure drug or something? Does anyone know?
have u tried either of them?
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cpw1971 said: 5meo-DMT is 10x as potent as NN-DMT.
Also look into Ibogaine. Theres nothing more powerfull than that.
that's not true
5meo-dmt is completely different experience.
and the ibogaine bit is false as well
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Austrip
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Re: Anything more powerful then DMT or Ayahuasca? [Re: Azure Essence]
#14139337 - 03/17/11 08:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Azure Essence said: If you need something more powerful than DMT, you arent doing DMT right.
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Ginto said: I couldn't even imagine something more intense. I wouldn't try it but am curious, maybe some obscure drug or something? Does anyone know?
Doesn't really sound like he's looking for some more powerful then DMT to try. What he did ask is if anyone knows of something more powerful.
I personally think that there are several trips that are more profound and powerful then DMT even at breakthrough level, and I also believe there is a new/undiscovered psychedelic either that exists in nature or is waiting to be synthesized in a lab, which will blow the DMT experience away.
I definitely don't think DMT is as far as we can go, it's as far as most will care to venture though. But when you take into account the world of REAL hallucinations like datura/meth psychosis/madness, I think there is definitely deeper realms of visionary experience that the mind is capable of producing then the DMT experience.
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Re: Anything more powerful then DMT or Ayahuasca? [Re: Austrip]
#14139388 - 03/17/11 08:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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ive never done dmt. i plan to within the next year or two though. tryin to broaden my horizons so to speak.
but i have a really hard time imagining anything being more intense than my hippy flip + nitrous experience.
then again, i had a hard time believing anything could be more intense than hippy flipping prior to that.
i would say that we will never really know just how far the psychedelic experience can go, because we will always feel like the furthest we have gotten is as far as it goes. but thats only because we havent gone further yet.
maybe hippy flipping + nitrous + dmt is more intense than dmt. yeaaaa.
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Re: Anything more powerful then DMT or Ayahuasca? [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
#14139401 - 03/17/11 08:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ive actually heard of people taking a master blaster DMT hit and then snorting a moderate line of K and laying down to go into god knows what area of mental space....
been wanting to try this for a while, but ketamine is scarce in this area and I have only done it once
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Austrip
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Re: Anything more powerful then DMT or Ayahuasca? [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
#14139479 - 03/17/11 09:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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i would say that we will never really know just how far the psychedelic experience can go, because we will always feel like the furthest we have gotten is as far as it goes. but thats only because we havent gone further yet.

I smoked DMT at the peak of an incredible LSD experience and I'm still convinced the mind could go further. Even at that level there was still mysteries, more questions, and unknown truths that no amount of DMT could open up to me. It was like a locked box that would show you everything it was entirely, but the real secret behind why it was there was never revealed.
It's all just about reaching that next plateau of the experience.
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Austrip
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Re: Anything more powerful then DMT or Ayahuasca? [Re: stranger_danger]
#14139491 - 03/17/11 09:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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stranger_danger said: Ive actually heard of people taking a master blaster DMT hit and then snorting a moderate line of K and laying down to go into god knows what area of mental space....
been wanting to try this for a while, but ketamine is scarce in this area and I have only done it once 
whoa that is an awesome combo idea, I think I'd have to snort the line first though, the idea of racking up something AFTER smoking deemsters is almost impossible to me.
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Re: Anything more powerful then DMT or Ayahuasca? [Re: Austrip]
#14139536 - 03/17/11 09:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Make some Salvia-DMT soaked weed and smoke it while you're on mescaline-shrooms shortly after taking a bump of k.
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Ginto
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Re: Anything more powerful then DMT or Ayahuasca? [Re: Austrip]
#14139772 - 03/17/11 09:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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SamuelLJackson said: But when you take into account the world of REAL hallucinations like datura/meth psychosis/madness, I think there is definitely deeper realms of visionary experience that the mind is capable of producing then the DMT experience.
What do you mean real hallucinations? The ones on DMT seem real.
As for the main subject I hear Diphenhydramine is messed up
Edited by Ginto (03/17/11 10:01 PM)
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Samuel L Jackson
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Re: Anything more powerful then DMT or Ayahuasca? [Re: Ginto]
#14139814 - 03/17/11 09:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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that post confused me so much. you quoted me and then put someone elses quote in my quote box.
i was all "WHEN DID I SAY THAT?!"
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Re: Anything more powerful then DMT or Ayahuasca? [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
#14139944 - 03/17/11 10:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think he means hallucinations like shadow people raping your soul in a sanskrit palace
As opposed to geometric shapes and colours and shit.
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