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weiliigod
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Ieponumos said:
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that no one said anything like that before?...
I don't know. It could be as they have been found at this time of year, but I'd love to remain hopeful and potentially add another species to the list in this state. As soon as some microscopic work on the gills and spores gets done, the data will point in one direction or another.
Little too hopeful lol. Just because they were by a creek, and fruited in march does not give any evidence of them being ovoids! Weilii fruit in march and I've seen it first hand. Plus I know the weather has been PERFECT latley, (because I live there!) and it does not suprise me that there would be some finds! I highly doubt it's ovoids, that's just too good to be true. -- Either way, would love to see the habitat pics. Wouldn't surprise me at all if there were beetle infested pine trees all around -
Would love to be wrong though ... would be awesome to see such a cool find in GA .
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weiliigod
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gooberhack said: Hrmm good point weiliigod! Still would like to get the spores under a microscope just to be 100%
Defiantly do.. I don't know why the ti's jumped all over it being an ovoid in mid Georgia? I don't know if it's because you said they were by a creek, or what?
They look like plenty of weilii i've seen before. Especially with this differance in shape on pic.2 Also, weilii will always "sun bake" and turn white exactly like that. (which ovoids, and almost all psilo's do anyways) . I'm just saying it's North.Ga we're talking about here, the weather has been perfect, the mushroom is heavily bruising, they have no distinct shape... they must be.....
Edited by weiliigod (03/17/11 08:03 PM)
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Bobzimmer
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weiliigod said:
that no one said anything like that before?...
I didn't suggest Psilocybe weilii because as far as I know they don't leave this much of an annulus, dry to darker colors, and the habitat didn't seem right. Was there any Loblolly Pine or Sweet Gum growing around? Red clay soil?
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weiliigod
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Bobzimmer said:
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weiliigod said:
that no one said anything like that before?...
I didn't suggest Psilocybe weilii because as far as I know they don't leave this much of an annulus, dry to darker colors, and the habitat didn't seem right. Was there any Loblolly Pine or Sweet Gum growing around? Red clay soil?
They come in so many differant shapes and sizes and they can and often will leave this much of an annulus, it's not super common but not unlikely either. Weilii will come in all differant shapes & sizes, sometimes showing different characteristics. (What i'm saying, is it's not like Id'ing a a liberty cap. ) they really have no 100% distinct factor due to the way they grow.. some look so different it really is quite amazing!
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There was no pine needles or red clay. Pine trees were scatted but not abundant. The soil was almost black and mud like. It was mostly privet understory with oaks and Osage.
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Bobzimmer
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Stating three times that weilii comes in many shapes and sizes isn't a particularly compelling argument. Ovoids come in a variety of shapes and sizes as well and with a persistent annulus in two separate shots, and a caramel cap color drying to white, I still think they more strongly resemble ovoids at this point.
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avidpicker
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Could be,I've never seen any weilli in person so i cannot say how and if they ever bare any resemblance to Ovoideocystidiata,but i can say that yours definitely look like good ol ovoids for sure.Patiently awaiting results of microscopic work.Awesome find whatever it turns out to be!
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Bobzimmer said: Ovoids come in a variety of shapes and sizes as well and with a persistent annulus in two separate shots, and a caramel cap color drying to white, I still think they more strongly resemble ovoids at this point.
^ Agree
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 VERY neat habitat - and VERY neat finds!!!
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weiliigod
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Haha sorry I did not even realize I typed that so many times. Those look like your' average weilii to me, the fact that they're in North Georgia makes it very hard to believe the ovoid thing.. but I do see where you are going with the hints point its way. But, weilii can look exactly the same & have many differant habitats. Would just be odd that the first ovoid found in the history of GA came all of asudden, by a poster that hasn't been around much. IDK though man, it's gonna be impossible to tell without microscopy -- Ovoids and Weilii look almost exactly alike
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Ieponumos
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weiliigod said:
Little too hopeful lol. Just because they were by a creek, and fruited in march does not give any evidence of them being ovoids! Weilii fruit in march and I've seen it first hand. Plus I know the weather has been PERFECT latley, (because I live there!) and it does not suprise me that there would be some finds! I highly doubt it's ovoids, that's just too good to be true. -- Either way, would love to see the habitat pics. Wouldn't surprise me at all if there were beetle infested pine trees all around -
Would love to be wrong though ... would be awesome to see such a cool find in GA .
I know weilii have been found in March (I thought I said that) and the weather has been good (and I live here in GA, too), but new things are being discovered all the time. Weilii are rarely found on hardwoods to my recollection and love more acidic things such as pine debris and red clay.
Regardless, it's all good. Let us celebrate for we have more data on actives.
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weiliigod
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Bobzimmer
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weiliigod said:
Haha sorry I did not even realize I typed that so many times. Those look like your' average weilii to me, the fact that they're in North Georgia makes it very hard to believe the ovoid thing.. but I do see where you are going with the hints point its way. But, weilii can look exactly the same & have many differant habitats. Would just be odd that the first ovoid found in the history of GA came all of asudden, by a poster that hasn't been around much. IDK though man, it's gonna be impossible to tell without microscopy -- Ovoids and Weilii look almost exactly alike
I can't argue with the NorthGeorgia logic. I would definitely be interested in seeing some microscopy. Either way, nice finds, Goob.
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Edited by Bobzimmer (03/17/11 08:54 PM)
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St. Chibes
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Nice photos gooberhack!
Soooo....
Who's doing the microscopy?
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Ieponumos
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St. Chibes said: Nice photos gooberhack!
Soooo....
Who's doing the microscopy?
I'm hoping Workman or Alan. They are more than qualified.
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Ieponumos said:
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St. Chibes said: Nice photos gooberhack!
Soooo....
Who's doing the microscopy?
I'm hoping Workman or Alan. They are more than qualified.
Yeah...
Gooberhack, do you have a scope?
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Oreganic
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gooberhack said: There was no pine needles or red clay. Pine trees were scatted but not abundant. The soil was almost black and mud like. It was mostly privet understory with oaks and Osage.

Awesome habitat shot!! It looks like it may be a hefty producer too. It's fun seeing how many caramel caps you can count... I have to say that they look more like Ovoids than they do Weilii to me.. 
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Re: First find? [Re: Oreganic]
#14143276 - 03/18/11 01:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Spring psilocybes
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amilibertine
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weiliigod said: the fact that they're in North Georgia makes it very hard to believe the ovoid thing..
I dunno what these are but I do know that we have expanded the range for ovoids way beyond what we originally though. There have been finds in southern Kentucky, I wouldn't think it too much of a stretch to think they could be in Georgia?  Occurrence Map for Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata
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