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felixopolus
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does light help colonization?
#14137289 - 03/17/11 03:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I wonder if exposing my substrate jars to some amounts of light is good? does it speed up growth or slow it? or does it make any difference?
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Adam553
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Re: does light help colonization? [Re: felixopolus]
#14137336 - 03/17/11 03:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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i think staments said incubating in complete darkness isn't necessary but too much light is a bad thing. maybe use just 1 jar to see what happens after a few days? worst case scenario use lose 1 jar....
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Re: does light help colonization? [Re: Adam553]
#14137370 - 03/17/11 03:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I colonize my bulk & jars w/ a 6500k light on a 12/12 schedule. No problems here. I've actually noticed an decrease in colonization time due to the light being on. RR talks a lot about this with others on the forum. I'm sure you'll find that colonizing w/out light is old/bad info.
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Yeah I've colonised all my jars on a shelf in full daylight/artificial light for a few years. Direct sunlight may be a bad idea, though that is more due to temp fluctuations I imagine.
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felixopolus
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if you've noticed a decrease in colonization time due to the light being on then why do you do it? did you mean the opposite?
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Re: does light help colonization? [Re: felixopolus]
#14137746 - 03/17/11 04:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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A decrease in colonization time is good. An Increase would be bad...I went from 4 weeks to 3 that would be a decrease in time but an increase in speed. 
Sorry, I just realized the confusion. I meant a decrease in waiting time for colonization to me...lol
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felixopolus
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oh i see now... yes i would love to achieve 3 weeks for my pint jars, some of them been sitting for well over a month and still aren't fully there, it take forever for the bottom to get covered.
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Re: does light help colonization? [Re: felixopolus]
#14138054 - 03/17/11 05:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Mine are usually done in 2-3 weeks maximum. But I play them very cool music, they love bluegrass. 
Light definitely won't hurt, well worth a try. In fact why not move half your jars somewhere light and leave the other half and let us know the results. Nothing speaks like results.
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Re: does light help colonization? [Re: egodeathflux]
#14138115 - 03/17/11 05:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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mabachko is testing this to find out.
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egodeathflux
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Re: does light help colonization? [Re: yessir]
#14138143 - 03/17/11 05:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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yessir said: mabachko is testing this to find out.
A link would be perfect here.....
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Re: does light help colonization? [Re: yessir]
#14139986 - 03/17/11 10:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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yessir said: mabachko is testing this to find out.
Yessir, your signature is absolutely awesome!
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Re: does light help colonization? [Re: fbi365]
#14140072 - 03/17/11 10:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Low levels of ambient light will speed up colonization slightly. In my colonizing room, I have shiitake substrates on solid shelves, stacked 4 deep. The ones near the hallway where they get a bit of light always colonize faster than the ones behind, that are shielded from light. RR
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Re: does light help colonization? [Re: felixopolus]
#14140189 - 03/17/11 10:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I can fill this:)
Higher temperatures IMO (and this is from my own experience so far) will speed up colonization (depending on the substrate, quality etc etc) slightly but one thing you should not miss is this.
Coffee:)
Yes, regular old "South American then hastily imported in large bags Coffee".
It speeds up the growth of jars (I guess it speeds up whatever, but Ive only used jars) violently and I mean this.
Work hard with your substrate mix and make sure its good and perfect and add coffee to that and you can race any Nascar of the shroom world easy...
I filled 13, 125 ml jars. Time from inoc. to full col. ???
2 weeks. I am not shitting you here, I sat like a dumbass watching those jars saying "heeeyyy..." thinking it was deadly white mold from mars or something, the shit grew like a mothafucka and in LESS than 3 weeks I had ready to birth cakes...
:)
Try it..
Its fun!
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Re: does light help colonization? [Re: kdmmontana]
#14140377 - 03/17/11 11:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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As requested. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14109639
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fbi365 said: Yessir, your signature is absolutely awesome!
Thank you!
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Re: does light help colonization? [Re: yessir]
#14142034 - 03/18/11 08:10 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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yessir said: As requested. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14109639
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fbi365 said: Yessir, your signature is absolutely awesome!
Thank you!
Cheers man. Your sig is pretty fucking cool.
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felixopolus
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Re: does light help colonization? [Re: kdmmontana]
#14142920 - 03/18/11 12:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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you mean freshly ground coffee beans in the substrate mix? how much do you add? 50%? and is this affordable?
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egodeathflux
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Re: does light help colonization? [Re: felixopolus]
#14143054 - 03/18/11 12:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think coffee is generally used in similar quatities/ratios to gypsum (about 1:10 for me).
You can also soak/simmer your grains in weak coffee for added zip. I use about 1:6 coffee to water.
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Re: does light help colonization? [Re: felixopolus]
#14143086 - 03/18/11 12:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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About coffee TS:)
When you are mixing up your Verm/Water you simply add some weak coffee to it. To my knowledge, one doesnt use coffee grounds for BRF Jars, Theyre better suited for other growing techniques I think.
I searched around for coffee information and was told that coffee leads to a healthier mycelium and I cant stress that enough. It grows/colonizes faster, seems happier and stronger. Coffee is standard in all my BRF Cake grows:)
I really think coffee should be added to the PF TEK as standard. Its easy to add and doesnt hurt the process and its great!
Edited by kdmmontana (03/18/11 12:59 PM)
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Re: does light help colonization? [Re: kdmmontana]
#14230726 - 04/03/11 11:16 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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i tried once with light and it doesnt work
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Re: does light help colonization? [Re: JALESIO]
#14230757 - 04/03/11 11:28 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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JALESIO said: i tried once with light and it doesnt work
i used to preach that it will slow it down.. i have never said it it would stop it, though..
light will not hurt colonization, and apparently it can help.. the tests that I did before were flawed, as they were MS inoculations..
after being corrected by the old-hands here, i did some reading.. just goes to show, there is ALWAYS more to learn, and nothing wrong with being schooled.. especially by the gentlepersons here.. lol..
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