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psyphr
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9th day-no signs of pinning or new growth, low temp..heat bomb?
#14136134 - 03/17/11 10:48 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hello everyone,
First time grower, long time reader. I studied for months before deciding to go for it. Wanted a solid understanding of all issues and concerns before i started to avoid any dumb mistakes. Inoculation went great, little longer than expected but the temp was around 74˚: 4 weeks, including the extra week for full colonization.
Shotgun fruiting chamber following a BRF Pf-Tek to the "T", Dunked and rolled after 20 hour dunk (maybe that was a lil too long, I've seen different opinions on it. Cakes looked good at birth BTW, minimal amount of water on the walls of the jars, not too dry not too wet or slick.
Within days saw fluffy myc form and knots? start:


however for close to a week.... no change, no new growth except some more fluffiness towards the bottoms of the cakes:

I'm Currently unemployed, so there's a pretty solid schedule of fanning every hour or so, with decreased misting being the Rh is holding well. In the beginning i may have been over-misting, worried about the Rh.
SO, here's the Question... THE TEMP. The apartment is at 65˚ on average. I had an insulated, somewhat sterile (Lysol/alcohol wipe down-doesn't get into the FC) spot in the closet set up... keeps it closer to 70˚; but I'm concerned about the airflow.

SO i moved it to a shelving unit top:

Should I consider a heat bomb? Would the temp be stalling any pin growth? I know the main pinning triggers FAE, light, RH... all good, the only variable out of the proper range is the temp. I also know us beginners are impatient, but this temp issue has always been a worry for me. Even if i crank up the thermostat, it doesn't always stay where it needs to be.
Thanks for any insight everyone...
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Re: 9th day-no signs of pinning or new growth, low temp..heat bomb? [Re: psyphr]
#14136145 - 03/17/11 10:51 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I dont see any problem, Give it a few more days and you should see pins.
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Re: 9th day-no signs of pinning or new growth, low temp..heat bomb? [Re: shr00m3r]
#14136170 - 03/17/11 10:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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they look good i bet they will pin within a week or so. if you followed the pf tek to the T its pretty much fool proof.
the only time i had any cakes not pin was when i got stroma, but it dosent appear like thats the problem here. i think they are fine but its impossable to tell from a picture. id say just give it a week
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psyphr
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Re: 9th day-no signs of pinning or new growth, low temp..heat bomb? [Re: Genesis311]
#14136218 - 03/17/11 11:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wow.. thanks for the quick responses.
So you don't think the temp is as big of an issue as i'm worried it is?
I had considered building a heat bomb today.. but I hate the idea of adding a new variable on a first attempt. I'd rather correct issues on future grows than screw something up that i'm not sure needed 'fixing' now.
Thanks again.
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Re: 9th day-no signs of pinning or new growth, low temp..heat bomb? [Re: psyphr]
#14136342 - 03/17/11 11:46 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
psyphr said: Wow.. thanks for the quick responses.
So you don't think the temp is as big of an issue as i'm worried it is?
I had considered building a heat bomb today.. but I hate the idea of adding a new variable on a first attempt. I'd rather correct issues on future grows than screw something up that i'm not sure needed 'fixing' now.
Thanks again.
having an optimal temprature is ideal but your temps being at that level shouldent cause a problem.
i use no ac in the house i grow in and sometimes in the winter it gets below 50 in the grow room. the low temprature seems to slow down the growth but not enough to make a notable diffrence.
iv had tubs pin in 45degree tempratures no problem.
getting the temprature right will help but it wont make all the diffrence if u know what i mean
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psyphr
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Re: 9th day-no signs of pinning or new growth, low temp..heat bomb? [Re: Genesis311]
#14168702 - 03/23/11 08:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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thought i'd give the smallest update...
i've got one little 1/4 inch (5mm) pin growing. no other signs of growth... more knots that last post... lil white balls at the base of the cakes and some on the walls.
i'm going to set up a space heater in the area of the FC to bring up the temp from 65˚ to low 70˚s... just going to need to keep a closer eye on the RH and FAE.
i was super excited to see the one.. but nervous about no signs of others for him to hang out with.
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Re: 9th day-no signs of pinning or new growth, low temp..heat bomb? [Re: psyphr]
#14168803 - 03/23/11 08:50 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't see any knot. I only see mycelium growth. Next time dunk for 24 hours. Also you need more perlite in your FC. 65F is ok for cubes, although 70F will give you faster growth. Keep fanning and misting and you will see knots soon enough.
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Edited by LeopardMan (03/23/11 08:56 AM)
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psyphr
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Re: 9th day-no signs of pinning or new growth, low temp..heat bomb? [Re: LeopardMan]
#14169111 - 03/23/11 10:19 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah.... what i thought were knots were just little spires of fluffy myc... once the actual knots developed i realized i was wrong.
i just checked on the cake with the little pin when i fanned and misted and saw another little starting about a cm away from it. just that one cake though. i've got the heat inside the fc up to 71 or so.
i just keep checking on the temp and the Rh like it was a sleeping baby.
the process has taken a lot longer than most people report so i've gotten antsy..
thanks for the reply LeopardMan. Much appreciated.
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Re: 9th day-no signs of pinning or new growth, low temp..heat bomb? [Re: psyphr]
#14182413 - 03/25/11 02:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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sooo... this is killing me. they were placed in the SGFC on 3/8/2011, 17 days and all i got is:
this lil guy, for 3 days.. barely growing too:

theres another little one down to the left but barely visible in the pic, and another cake has a little one started, but nothing else.
i'm hoping/thinking the blue/green visible at the top is from misting.. its only on the tops for the most part and it just started showing up.
so yeah...
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Re: 9th day-no signs of pinning or new growth, low temp..heat bomb? [Re: psyphr]
#15038039 - 09/06/11 01:12 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well i have the exact same problem now !
If i showed you my cakes you wouldn't be able to differentiate them from the pics you uploaded .. they are in the SGFC for almost a week no sins of pins .
It was 100% colonized in the jar and i waited 4 days after .. the jars i colonized from the same syringe all pinned in the jar and i just dunked them now ( 100 colonized + 8 days)
Could there be something wrong in the FC technique !
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