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Re: memory function in dreams [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #14156819 - 03/20/11 10:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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IMO dreams are unimportant and is why they are often forgotten.  IMO you never lose the memory of an event or experience, but you can lose the ability to recall it.




IMO dreams are accurate reflections of emotions in the form of metaphorical experiences. IMO they are very important.


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Re: memory function in dreams [Re: mushiepussy]
    #14156839 - 03/20/11 10:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I disagree:shrug:  I think they prove little importance from a biological POV.


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Re: memory function in dreams [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #14157104 - 03/20/11 11:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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IMO dreams are unimportant and is why they are often forgotten.  IMO you never lose the memory of an event or experience, but you can lose the ability to recall it.




If you learn to control your dreams, you can do whatever you want in your dreams. That is a very luring possibility.


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Re: memory function in dreams [Re: Joolz]
    #14157386 - 03/21/11 12:49 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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IMO dreams are unimportant and is why they are often forgotten.  IMO you never lose the memory of an event or experience, but you can lose the ability to recall it.




If you learn to control your dreams, you can do whatever you want in your dreams. That is a very luring possibility.





What is the difference between losing a memory and not being able to recall it...

Would you say that some "events" form impressions? Maybe not all dreams are as emotionally packed as others, and that is why they are forgotten. Studies by Bohanan on flashbulb memories show that if an event is very emotional, it is more readily able to be recalled; however, most of the info that is recalled in a flashbulb memory can be inaccurate.

Maybe a significant enough emotional state triggers a memory sequence, and that's why some dreams (such as gouging out the eyes of a demonic infant) "stick" more than others.


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Re: memory function in dreams [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #14157471 - 03/21/11 01:13 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I disagree:shrug:  I think they prove little importance from a biological POV.




Lol yeah ok, when you look at them that way then I agree. I'm just saying I think there is more to dreams than just random pics in your head, I think they can give insight to your life if you know how to look.


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Re: memory function in dreams [Re: mushiepussy]
    #14158157 - 03/21/11 06:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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.... and it is a process that uses the entire brain organ.




I realize functions carried out by the brain are not localized to one particular area but are done using predictable combinations of various sectors.

My question is this, does the dream state also use a specific combination of various sectors every time, does it utilize the sectors randomly, or is it a selective process based on the using sectors with the highest levels of resonant experience augmentation? Surely it could not use every sector simultaneously and equally(that would require too much energy for sleep to be effective), so how does it specify which particular ones it uses?




as far as sections turned on or off, dream state is naturally invoked globally in the cerebrum as a mode with longer resonant fading. if the dream content has hands then that area of the cortex will be activated (middle of somato-sensory arch... like where a baby bonnet is worn), if it is visual, the visual cortex (back of cortex) will be active.
In Sleep (but not necessarily with drugs) the medulla oblongata generally is cut off by the reticular formation to stop live body sensation and reduce twitching or prevent walking.

The timers in the cerebellum are not directly affected. prefrontal (decision making) and frontal (conceptual) areas are variously active all depending on content.


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Also, how do you explain dreams that vividly project scenarios that the mind has never experienced? Last night I had an extremely vivid dream where I ended up jumping through the penthouse window of a massive skyscraper in the middle of a sea, where it seemed like a flawless rendition of what it would actually be like to experience this(there where absolutely no gaps in the imaging throughout the dream, I even saw the roof of the lower level of the building with extreme detail, and the fall was in real time). I remember the images very, very well because they seemed very, very real. I even remember the reasons for me jumping, I just wanted to see if I would live. Also, something that has never happened to me in a falling like dream before happened, I hit the water. I don't remember what happened after I hit the water (think I just started another dream) but I specifically remember hitting the water. I felt the impact(in the dream), but no pain.

It was an amazing dream. Normally falling dreams are experienced with fear, without control, and I don't experience such detail and vividness. This one was the opposite, the jump was facilitated by my own accord, I experienced no fear, and the image quality was like actually doing this. It felt sooo real. Sorry, I got a little off topic :crazy:

So how does the brain create scenarios like these with such accuracy?
It clearly uses little resonant experience augmentation as I have never seen or experienced anything like this. In the words of Kickle, what gives?




you may walk away from a dream and carry the story of sequential events.
much of the sequence is infilled afterwards or developed through serial dream regeneration (much lucid dreaming is this - reconstructive - dream and re-dream play).

not withstanding how many times you dream or  re-dream your sequence, each frame of the dream experience, however, is a resonant elaboration that continues forming (due to extended fade out of signals) and any glance will be rewarded with richness filling in - more so than in real 3-d (one timeline) life. the richness or resplendence is from apparent time freeze-up with overlapping of multiple timelines - many threads extending longer and more elaborately, and converging cascades of resonant inspirations.


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