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Re: should steroids be ok in professional sports.... [Re: Asante]
    #14294914 - 04/15/11 10:31 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Wiccan_Seeker said:because sports is also something spiritual, about being the best man you can be with the tools nature traditionally gave you.




Yeah, but ELITE competition has nothing to do with being spiritual and shit. You compete at an elite level to motherfuckin win. Thats the difference between professional and amateur competition.


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Re: should steroids be ok in professional sports.... [Re: Kamoopstinoops]
    #14295163 - 04/15/11 11:40 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Wiccan_Seeker said:because sports is also something spiritual, about being the best man you can be with the tools nature traditionally gave you.




Yeah, but ELITE competition has nothing to do with being spiritual and shit. You compete at an elite level to motherfuckin win. Thats the difference between professional and amateur competition.




yes but that means that if you can't naturally compete, then you aren't good enough! If you need steroids to compete, then you aren't a superstar.

Steroids give an unfair advantage to those taking them, and also put everyone else around them at a disadvantage. You can't compete with a batter like barry bonds who hits 70+hrs in a season and has a slugging % over .750. It's cheating, plain and simple.

I don't care how ELITE the competition is. You use what mother nature gave you and if you can't compete at that elite level then you just aren't good enough. You don't need to juice to play.


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Re: should steroids be ok in professional sports.... [Re: Anthony917]
    #14295769 - 04/15/11 01:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

What if mother nature gave you three vials of nandrolone decanoate?

I agree that roid monkeys shouldnt pretend to be naturals, that WOULD be cheating. But they should have their own class of competition.


By your logic, the Shroomerites who use Adderal to study up for a big exam should be kicked out of college for "cheating".
I disagree. Steroids are used as a tool to train harder not a magic cure all that makesw your muscles pop out like airbags just by shooting up.


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Re: should steroids be ok in professional sports.... [Re: Asante]
    #14295785 - 04/15/11 02:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'd say fuck this gimme some tren.  :lifter:


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Re: should steroids be ok in professional sports.... [Re: Eminence]
    #14295790 - 04/15/11 02:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You must be pretty far down the road if you consider trenbolone.


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Re: should steroids be ok in professional sports.... [Re: Eminence]
    #14295797 - 04/15/11 02:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'm not gonna read through the thread, but my personal opinion is that they should not be allowed because it forces all athletes to use them just to compete.

The steroid/non-steroid leagues seems like a fantastic idea


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Re: should steroids be ok in professional sports.... [Re: Asante]
    #14295800 - 04/15/11 02:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I've done 5 cycles. But I got carried away and used it on my first :lol:


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Re: should steroids be ok in professional sports.... [Re: sajahand]
    #14295811 - 04/15/11 02:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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do you think that the pro-sports should allow the use of steroids for the amusement of the fans?
do you think it would be more competitive and interesting to watch?
i love hockey, and think it would give me a giggle if some players would just
wig out on each other more.
yes i understand that they (steroids) are dangerous, but so is driving a car drunk,
and eating at mac & dons in my town.




Yes, 'roids should be allowed. In MMA especially. "But what about the children?" they ask. The children would agree with me that athletes should have to compete against steroid users for the amount of $ they're paid. Fans need to start demanding the best show possible, one pumped up with syringes of hormones.


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Re: should steroids be ok in professional sports.... [Re: uber_aj]
    #14295814 - 04/15/11 02:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Fuck yeah.


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Re: should steroids be ok in professional sports.... [Re: Eminence]
    #14295822 - 04/15/11 02:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

*eyes your avatar*

Are you that bear? :lol:

trenbolone is so androgenic, it'd turn you in a furry animal with a voice like Satan. Its for cattle, not men.

At your fifth cycle testosterone could still be all you really "need" (mind your PCT), its only much later that the big boys need to be whipped out as auxiliaries.

When that day comes, look into that nandrolone, its safe to say thats the king of hardcore steroids, trem may give bigger initial gains but its so unbalanced.

I myself very occasionally use steroids, minute doses of stanozolol, not for athletic performance but to increase bone density, tissue quality etc and to recover from things like lower back pain that come with my physically demanding "sport" (being obese)

In very low, non performance enhancing doses steroids are AMAZING in recovering from sprained ankles, lower back pain etc. Theres NOTHING like it because at those doses (that correspond with more robust but still somewhat normal testicular testosterone output) you actually heal from such injuries faster and with better quality tissues.

Its only when you use higher doses that tissue quality gets sloppy, tiny doses actually benefit health.


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Re: should steroids be ok in professional sports.... [Re: Eminence]
    #14295823 - 04/15/11 02:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I say let the mongoloid retards of Major League Baseball juice up and crack 550 ft dingers over the gawk-eyed, dim witted heads of american baseball fans. Thats what they want to see.  Nobody wants to see a fucking bunt-off.


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Re: should steroids be ok in professional sports.... [Re: Asante]
    #14295828 - 04/15/11 02:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah exactly. So many people think people on steroids are pussies in the gym, when really, most of them train like animals and go forever in there.


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Re: should steroids be ok in professional sports.... [Re: sajahand]
    #14295836 - 04/15/11 02:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

In all honesty, I think that it's your body. Nobody should be able to tell you what to do with it. But the reason their banned, is because atheletes that do, use performance enhancers, excel beyond expectations. (Don't get me wrong, I don't use them, it just taking it from out side the box.) The normal "regular" athletes wouldn't be able to keep up with a person who uses an enhancer. I think that it should be your choice. Not the league, or the organization to tell you what you can and can't do with your body. Some people might actually need some extra boost. Because they have a dissability, other than that, if your fucking Berry Bonds, and are hitting 20 home runs ever 5 games, then you shouldn't be using fucking performance enhancers, because then your just a lazy douche..
In my opinion.


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Re: should steroids be ok in professional sports.... [Re: Asante]
    #14295848 - 04/15/11 02:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Haha yeah I know. But they have made pharmaceutical grade trenbolone. But yeah I grew some hair and my voice did get pretty deep.

I do love test though that is the main thing I would use if I went again. But tren had the best gains of them all so far, I have tried deca but at a lower dose, it was good but too much bloat.

And a couple of my cycles were cutters. Tren is amazing in cutting cycles. Oh and yeah I know everything about PCT. I looked into it so much before I started.

Definitely, I've used winny for the same reason. I've pushed myself a little too hard even with them and had some minor injuries, then just threw in a low dose of it to help. Winstrol's another one of my favorites.


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Re: should steroids be ok in professional sports.... [Re: Asante]
    #14295894 - 04/15/11 02:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I just prefer shorter esters. Quicker gains, and if you're not reacting nicely to them  there's less time to deal with sides if you want to quit that particular drug.


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Re: should steroids be ok in professional sports.... [Re: Eminence]
    #14295954 - 04/15/11 02:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Any ADULT MALE who talks down on steroids and who should have the misfortune of really busting their knee or their back should try adding 1-2mg stanozolol (Winstrol) once or twice daily to however they choose to recover for 1-3 weeks.

They'd be instant believers.

Its a few dozen times less of the steroid load an athlete like you takes on, so you'd perhaps think it won't do anything at all (its still almost like having a third nut for a few weeks though) but for the recovery of a regular joe the results are compelling. You recover faster and more complete, AND get a bit of analgesia AND you feel better.

This drug, in this dosage, in this duration, is completely benign in most adult males and depending on your physical robustness and how you treat your injury it may cut a quarter or one half off your recovery time if you aren't an athlete.

For an athlete it wont do much at that dosage because their androgenic turnover is higher but for a regular or somewhat elderly but otherwise healthy adult its AMAZING.


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Re: should steroids be ok in professional sports.... [Re: eloC]
    #14295964 - 04/15/11 02:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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eloC said: if your fucking Berry Bonds, and are hitting 20 home runs ever 5 games, then you shouldn't be using fucking performance enhancers, because then your just a lazy douche.
In my opinion.




I think that's just reefer madness projected on steroids. You don't inject steroids and suddenly become strong and a precise batter. You spend your whole day eating and working out, having to do recovery cycles and shit.

Athletes should be allowed to do what is best for them, so they can perform their best and earn that grossly inflated paycheck. I don't think any drugs should be tested for. Nick Diaz got high and out boxed one of the best lightweight boxers in MMA a few years back, so they reversed the win, despite it being a one-sided fight. Prohibition ruins sports, too.


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Re: should steroids be ok in professional sports.... [Re: uber_aj]
    #14296052 - 04/15/11 02:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I think that's just reefer madness projected on steroids.





The shroomery is an amazing community...

We have people with no pain whatsoever using painkillers, and thats cool.
We have healthy people with no need for surgery going halfway under anesthesia and returning with the answers to life and death, and thats cool.
We have college students who are lazy stoners all year suddenly going on adderal binges to make sure they pass exams on the the last minute, and thats cool.

But!

If you use a drug to enhance your body, all of a sudden you're a douche.

Strange logic here.


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Re: should steroids be ok in professional sports.... [Re: Asante]
    #14296071 - 04/15/11 02:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:congrats:


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Re: should steroids be ok in professional sports.... [Re: fissionchips]
    #14296077 - 04/15/11 02:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Wiccan_Seeker said:
What if mother nature gave you three vials of nandrolone decanoate?

I agree that roid monkeys shouldnt pretend to be naturals, that WOULD be cheating. But they should have their own class of competition.


By your logic, the Shroomerites who use Adderal to study up for a big exam should be kicked out of college for "cheating".
I disagree. Steroids are used as a tool to train harder not a magic cure all that makesw your muscles pop out like airbags just by shooting up.





No because college isn't a competition.

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I say let the mongoloid retards of Major League Baseball juice up and crack 550 ft dingers over the gawk-eyed, dim witted heads of american baseball fans. Thats what they want to see.  Nobody wants to see a fucking bunt-off.




This is retarded. You obviously don't understand baseball, but I love the game. There are so many aspects to baseball that you probably don't even understand. The mental game that occurs every at bat between batter & pitcher. Working a count, stealing bases, using outs and BUNTS productively to advance runners...sometimes the the pitches get called from the dugout!
Not to mention hitting a fastball is the hardest thing to do in all of sports, the game is incredible.

People do not simply watch to see HR's get hit. They are exciting, but some people actually love the game. Steroids RUIN the game.
Listen to what Bob Costas said in response to the bonds verdict
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=13752981

he says some very intelligent things


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