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Fist attempt at GTLC, 4 pint jars, 1 quart jar of grain, might noc the Qt with chitwan for a LC
    #14135774 - 03/17/11 08:58 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I have four lids that I am about to put hight temp RTV on for self healing holes. I forgot to make them yesterday and started soaking my grains.

My question is, can I leave my grains to soak another 24 hours or can I just let the RTV set up for till tonight and pc them then? Did I just waste a pound of grain or what?


I was thinking that I should finish the lids and just let the grain soak another day while the RTV dries, would that screw up my grains?


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Re: Fist attempt at GTLC, 4 pint jars for grains, RTV inoc hole question [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14135785 - 03/17/11 09:00 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You can put wet silicone on your jar, load the jar then PC. The heat from the PC will cure the silicone quickly. No need to wait for the silicone to dry on the lid, unless you have time, which you don't.


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Re: Fist attempt at GTLC, 4 pint jars for grains, RTV inoc hole question [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14135805 - 03/17/11 09:06 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Leaving grains for longer then 24 hours in water will cause them to start germinating which is not a good thing


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Re: Fist attempt at GTLC, 4 pint jars for grains, RTV inoc hole question [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14135808 - 03/17/11 09:08 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks for the quick response TL, I will boil my grains now then I guess. After I am finished with my lids.

For these jars since I am going to use for GTG LC and GTLC, should I only fill em about halfway so I can get more water in there and they will colonize faster?


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Re: Fist attempt at GTLC, 4 pint jars for grains, RTV inoc hole question [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14135827 - 03/17/11 09:12 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

If you are going to use LC just use a bit, A little goes a LONG WAY. You dont want to hose the grains down with it (you might cause grains to get too wet and stall growth)


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Re: Fist attempt at GTLC, 4 pint jars for grains, RTV inoc hole question [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14135838 - 03/17/11 09:15 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You're doing a G2G w/ them or a GLC w/ them? I'm confused.

If you're going to put colonized grain into the jar, then 1/2 way. If you're going to dump out the colonized grain from the jar to other jars later on, the normal amount.

As for the GLC, I'd do 1/2-2/3 full for that. I normally just toss whatever left over grains I have in a pint jar for my GLC's. Normally they're in that range that I gave you above.


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Re: Fist attempt at GTLC, 4 pint jars for grains, RTV inoc hole question [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14135890 - 03/17/11 09:32 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Well I was going to just fill the 4 jars 3/4 full with sterile water after the grain is 100% colonized through the inoc hole with a used PCd syringe and shake them, draw up some myc filled liquid, noc up some more grains and some cakes with two of them, and make some LC jars with the other two.

I have a magnetic stirrer I built and I want to test it out on some LC when I do my next bulk.


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Re: Fist attempt at GTLC, 4 pint jars for grains, RTV inoc hole question [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14135930 - 03/17/11 09:45 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

So the 4 pint jars going into the PC right now are: (2) for GLC & (2) for standard LC? Correct?

You're going to need some ELME or LME or some type of nutrient in the 2 jars for the LC then.

The GLC jars are fine w/ sterilized water, but GLCs stay good for about 2 weeks then need to be refrigerated.


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Re: Fist attempt at GTLC, 4 pint jars for grains, RTV inoc hole question [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14136002 - 03/17/11 10:12 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I am going to follow one of the LC teks for the two LC jars, probaby the extra light brewers malt and raw sugar LC(not sure of exact ingredients, got plenty of time b4 grain is 100%), but the other two I was just gonna draw up some sterile myc filled liquid and inoc some grain, and pf tek BRF jars(for the SGFC).


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Re: Fist attempt at GTLC, 4 pint jars for grains, RTV inoc hole question [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14136053 - 03/17/11 10:27 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:kenthumbup: Just making sure we're on the same page. Why are you PCing 4 jars then? You just need 2. The other 2 should be for your standard LC, which you haven't made yet. Don't add sugar to the ELME. It's not necessary.


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Re: Fist attempt at GTLC, 4 pint jars for grains, RTV inoc hole question [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14136120 - 03/17/11 10:47 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I was just going to make 4 grain jars, PC them, and then use them to make LCs when they were fully colonized so I know that the LCs are contam free. I wasn't going to shoot spores into an LC I was going to shoot myc into LC jars and use the other two to noc up new jars.


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Re: Fist attempt at GTLC, 4 pint jars for grains, RTV inoc hole question [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14136147 - 03/17/11 10:51 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

This is weeks away when I am going to noc LC jars. The lids for them still have no holes lol, I am going to use quart jars noced from fully colonized pints for my two LCs.


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Re: Fist attempt at GTLC, 4 pint jars for grains, RTV inoc hole question [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14136188 - 03/17/11 11:02 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

ahh...IC now. It's all falling into place. You're actually doing what I've been wondering why no one else has done? I mean. You know that LC's are a crap shoot & you know that a GLC is good. So, why not combine the two? I kinda did the same thing w/ my GLC that I wanted to extend.

I had a good GLC, made an LC jar. Shot in 60cc of LC into my GLC jar, then did another GLC, but did it to the LC jar instead of sterile water.


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Re: Fist attempt at GTLC, 4 pint jars for grains, RTV inoc hole question [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14136199 - 03/17/11 11:07 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Exactly what I was going to do, except I am doing a few other jars to spawn.


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Re: Fist attempt at GTLC, 4 pint jars for grains, RTV inoc hole question [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14136224 - 03/17/11 11:13 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

This is what I was planning on doing to two of the pints into my grain and cake jars. Then the other two I was planning on using the same method to make two quart LC jars with uncontaminated myc...

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11533629#11533629


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Re: Fist attempt at GTLC, 4 pint jars for grains, RTV inoc hole question [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14136230 - 03/17/11 11:15 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yup, that's a GLC & the other one would be a modified GLC or LC using grain culture...IDK... I wish I could beat ya to making a tek on this one, but I don't see that happening unless :strokebeard: nm, haha. I might be able to beat ya on the tek.


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Re: Fist attempt at GTLC, 4 pint jars for grains, RTV inoc hole question [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14136241 - 03/17/11 11:18 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

LOL I want no TEK glory, everything I have learned has been from you or someone else on here. My teks are going to be modified SGs and monos. GO FOR IT! lol


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Re: Fist attempt at GTLC, 4 pint jars for grains, RTV inoc hole question [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14136252 - 03/17/11 11:20 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I think I have seen this already done on here just havn't seen the tek for it.


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Re: Fist attempt at GTLC, 4 pint jars for grains, RTV inoc hole question [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14136259 - 03/17/11 11:22 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yea, it's a simple tek...make an LC, put water in quart jar. do a GLC but instead of shootin' the myc laden solution into the water jar shoot it into the LC jar.

Done, just made my tek :wink: haha :trolldance: :laugh2:


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Re: Fist attempt at GTLC, 4 pint jars for grains, RTV inoc hole question [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14136270 - 03/17/11 11:24 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

LOL, going to check mail for filter disks, hope my drunk ass don't get pulled over on way to mailbox...


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