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Strongest mushies?
    #14135191 - 03/17/11 03:33 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

So in your opinion , what would you say the most potent mushrooms you have ever had?. I am talking about cosmic journeys to other dimensions potency :wink:


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Re: Strongest mushies? [Re: Blueflowers]
    #14135203 - 03/17/11 03:40 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Psilocybe Cyanescens. 3g will send you deep into a trip.
I want to try azures...but I just haven't had the time to make it to the coast to hunt them :crankynoweed:


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Re: Strongest mushies? [Re: Anthony917]
    #14135208 - 03/17/11 03:46 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I herd azures pack a powerful punch. ill be sure to pick up a print sometime soon.


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Re: Strongest mushies? [Re: Blueflowers]
    #14135226 - 03/17/11 03:59 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I haven't had strong ones :frown:.  At-least not allot of them. 

My first trip was on 2 grams dried.  Well I think someone down the line took out all the caps leaving me with stems.  Still was amazing though. 

At a rave I ate a gram after I had taken a .3 pill of molly and snorted another .3 split with my friend.  Triped bad for the first time, It was definatly something from the shrooms but its hard to tell.  I would be starring off into space and forget what I'm even looking at.  I got so scared of oding and collapsing then the er show up and find my shrooms so I gave away what I had left. a good cap and stem or more to a random guy.

And theres my shrooms.  They gotta be 1/4 as potent as any other shrooms that I've tried.  Drying some now so I can really tell. 

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Re: Strongest mushies? [Re: tospace]
    #14135261 - 03/17/11 04:42 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ahh shrooms at a rave sounds great , i have dropped acid at a rave and let me tell you , it was bloody intense! i was sitting up the back and suddenly everyone turned around and they were all looking at me with a large golden eye! :eek: . your own shrooms? as in growing them yourself? How did that go.


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Re: Strongest mushies? [Re: Blueflowers]
    #14135267 - 03/17/11 04:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Strongest mushies? [Re: Eminence]
    #14135323 - 03/17/11 05:27 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

the strongest mushies i've ever come across were some psilocybe azurescens that were ironically by far the cheapest ones i've ever payed for. got a halfoz for 30$!
ate 2g dried the night i got em and tripped about as good as i would on 4g of cubes. the azures were also just generally an all around amazing trip. i felt full of euphoria the entire time and from the moment i felt them coming on i was in a pure state of bliss where nothing could bring me down. i'm pretty sure i didn't stop laughing for more than 5 mins that whole trip. and all i was really doing was blazing bowls/drawing/blasting music and playing video games.
this was months back and i still haven't tripped since then cause i think it'll be hard to top that trip :lol:


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Re: Strongest mushies? [Re: blazenn]
    #14135340 - 03/17/11 05:45 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Psilocybe Azurescens

Psilocybe Cyanescens

Psilocybe Semilanceata

Panaeleous Cyanescens

many other lesser known Psilocybe and Panaeleous varieties

Cubensis all on the bottom of the list (regardless of strain or origin unless grown on a tryptamine containing substrate)


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Re: Strongest mushies? [Re: GGTBod]
    #14135402 - 03/17/11 06:27 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Stamets in PMotW lists
P. Azurescens
P. Bohemia
P. Semilanceata
P. Baeocytis
P. Cyanescens

In that order, but also mentions that potency varies...

To answer the question... P. Cyans


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Re: Strongest mushies? [Re: HarryL]
    #14135423 - 03/17/11 06:35 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Right, I officially wanna try Psilocybe Azurescens now!! I always thought Semilanceatas were the stongest :noob:


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Re: Strongest mushies? [Re: Abuse]
    #14135513 - 03/17/11 07:20 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

This is probably all very individual, but I find the order of those that I have tried to be (most to least):

Ps. cyanofricosa
Ps. cyanesens
Ps. cubensis

Many people will state that friscosas and cyans are exactly the same, but not to me, not by a long shot.  I get much greater visuals and mental feelings are way different with friscosas).

Again, your mileage may vary.


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Re: Strongest mushies? [Re: LanLord]
    #14135540 - 03/17/11 07:30 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Are Friscosas very common in the wild?


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Re: Strongest mushies? [Re: Abuse]
    #14135731 - 03/17/11 08:42 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Are Friscosas very common in the wild?



They are here in the SF Bay area.  They grow anywhere that cyans grow (which is one reason most people think they are pretty much identical).

Their season seems to start a bit later and continue a bit later, but otherwise, if cyans grow there, friscosas will grow there.

BTW, Inski has stated on several occasions that his research indicates fricosas are macroscopically and microscopically identical to Ps. subaerugunosa.  I guess there is some DNA research in process.  I believe that being in the "sub" family is where the visual difference happens (maybe more baeocystin?).


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Re: Strongest mushies? [Re: LanLord]
    #14135750 - 03/17/11 08:47 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Strongest mushies? [Re: Blueflowers]
    #14137251 - 03/17/11 03:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Ahh shrooms at a rave sounds great , i have dropped acid at a rave and let me tell you , it was bloody intense! i was sitting up the back and suddenly everyone turned around and they were all looking at me with a large golden eye! :eek: . your own shrooms? as in growing them yourself? How did that go.



That sounds crazzy. 

Yeah the shrooms that I grow are like impossible to trip on.  Always do dxm or something so it will be somewhat of a trip.  Most Ive had was intensified colors, and things moving around plus cev's, and that was with dxm.  I felt super happy when taking just my shrooms alone and things were interesting in the dark.

I drying my self a nice big pile maybe for tonight so I can really compare it to all the other times I did dry shrooms.  Should atleast be an eighth.


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Re: Strongest mushies? [Re: tospace]
    #14143034 - 03/18/11 12:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I had some really crazy wild panaleous cyanescens yesterday, about 1.5 grams dried and I was spacebound. But I lemon teked them so that might have had something to do with it, either way I was :eek:.


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Re: Strongest mushies? [Re: mushiepussy]
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Re: Strongest mushies? [Re: Sanguine]
    #14143163 - 03/18/11 01:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Cubensis of any variety are hardly active compared to the cyans or azures, ive had more of a kick from 1 gram dried cyans then 7 dried grams of PES Amazonian Cubes and the cubes had been grown with phalaris arundinacea as part of the substrate so that they would produce more psilocybin than normal


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Re: Strongest mushies? [Re: GGTBod]
    #14143209 - 03/18/11 01:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

That just means that those cyans must've been ridiculously strong. There's no way cyans can consistently be over 7 times as strong as cubes. :shrug:


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Re: Strongest mushies? [Re: Eminence]
    #14143259 - 03/18/11 01:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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That just means that those cyans must've been ridiculously strong. There's no way cyans can consistently be over 7 times as strong as cubes. :shrug:



I would agree.  The difference is percentage points, not multiples.  That said, some individual mushrooms can be ridiculously potent.  So if you got a batch of potent strong cyans, they might just boot your can.


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Re: Strongest mushies? [Re: Eminence]
    #14143331 - 03/18/11 01:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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That just means that those cyans must've been ridiculously strong. There's no way cyans can consistently be over 7 times as strong as cubes. :shrug:




not 7 times as strong, but my cyanescens are at least twice as strong as any cubes I've ever had


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Re: Strongest mushies? [Re: LanLord]
    #14143332 - 03/18/11 01:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I agree but the intensity of the comeup can not be matched by cubensis, i have ate 4 grams at once to try and match the cyans hit and it was great but still no where near the intensity of the experience with cyans and i ended up eating another 3 grams to chase the hit once i was up on the 4.

I used to have a great source for cyans and they were rediculously potent, most people I gave them to could not handly 1 gram dried without totally loosing the plot and tripping harder than they ever had, people who were good trippers stopped joining us on trips because they were too much, 1 gram led to ego death and psychedelic bliss with no choice in the matter, well as long as you didnt fight the ego death you got the bliss


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Re: Strongest mushies? [Re: GGTBod]
    #14143910 - 03/18/11 03:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

In my experience cubensis is more of an acid like trip where cyans are not as clean but much more intense.


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Re: Strongest mushies? [Re: mushiepussy]
    #14144790 - 03/18/11 06:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

psilocybe semilenceta.. are the strongest ones i've had.. i pick them every year i've got a bag full of them dried out at home but i aint had them for over 6 months... i have access to LSD now so i leave the mushrooms alone and sell them to mates... there too messy i've done some really strange stuff while on semi's ... tho i dont do a trip unless i go overboard.. no mater what i take to hallucinate i always always have to take lots..... thats just my personallity.. most dried semi's i've ever taken in one night was 14 gram..... i thought i had died ... total ego death....


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Re: Strongest mushies? [Re: microdotty]
    #14144857 - 03/18/11 06:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I dont think I've had cyan's yet(first time was with a trusted friend, but I didnt know enough to care about strain, I just knew they were psychadelic), but Azurescens are fucking incredible. That is my hardest trip to date, and the most eye opening to my life and the world. Also my first 'bad trip' that allowed me to realize there really arent such a thing as a 'bad trip', atleast not without an external element, like if your parents just died then you had to talk to the cops or something. That shit would suck

I had a full on breakthru and ego death on those, it was incredible.


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Re: Strongest mushies? [Re: microdotty]
    #14146572 - 03/19/11 12:19 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Man I love liberty caps..My parents live around 3 big cow fields so we get a ton. When I was like 14 I would pick them every time they grew, and cubes. I did that til I moved out but one time I got 2, 1 gallon bags full of cubes and 3 and a half 1 gallon bags full of liberty caps. I still make sure to visit home every time they grow.


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Re: Strongest mushies? [Re: Eminence]
    #14146687 - 03/19/11 12:59 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I would have to say fresh P. cyanofibrillosa. Ate about 15 of them when I first discovered a patch, and holy shit!!! I've had doses of 4g and more of Psilocybe cyanescens, but the fresh cyanofibs are something special (at least the ones I found were). Super clean, beautiful visuals (not that cartoon kinda visuals), and lasted for about 8 hours. One of the best times in my life:tongue2:


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Re: Strongest mushies? [Re: Blueflowers]
    #14146937 - 03/19/11 02:20 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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So in your opinion , what would you say the most potent mushrooms you have ever had?. I am talking about cosmic journeys to other dimensions potency :wink:




Kinda a silly question. It's pretty well known that the strongest ones are cyans and azures. The real question is it just the psychedelic compound in higher percentage that makes it stronger or is it something else. I'm sure veteran trippers can confirm the obvious, X amount of cubes in terms of Y psilocybin vs. Z amount of cyans with Y psilocybin are highly different. Or are they? Each trip is so unique it's hard to tell.

I firmly believe each and every mushroom is unique. Even where they grow adds to the trip. Take some HBRW grown in the USA vs another country. An awesome test would be to grow the precise same mushroom or other psychedelic plant in two places on the globe, then have a group of people take the different ones and correlate the differences between the groups based on the geographical location of where the plant/fungi was grown.


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    #14153071 - 03/20/11 10:29 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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So in your opinion , what would you say the most potent mushrooms you have ever had?. I am talking about cosmic journeys to other dimensions potency :wink:




Take some HBRW .




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    #14153080 - 03/20/11 10:33 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Psilocybe Ovoideocystidiata was very very intense at low does


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So in your opinion , what would you say the most potent mushrooms you have ever had?. I am talking about cosmic journeys to other dimensions potency :wink:




Take some HBRW .




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Re: Strongest mushies? [Re: Eminence]
    #14155744 - 03/20/11 07:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Strongest mushies? [Re: SummerDaisies]
    #14156913 - 03/20/11 10:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Strongest trip I've ever had was 4 grams of Azures in tea. Incredible body high and visuals. Trees looked just like a mass of swirling fractals, moving patterns on the ground/walls, floating colorful lines, rainbows everywhere in the sky, vivid colors. The body high was so good I actually was laying with my foot pressed up against the hot glass of an electric fireplace and didn't notice it until my friend pointed it out and was shocked that I was able to do that without feeling pain. Also my body would contort sort on it's own and I would get stuck in awkward positions for several minutes at a time, though it remained incredibly pleasant. My face muscles would also contort and I could feel my face warping.

Second strongest was probably off 4 grams of liberty cap tea. Lost concept of time felt like I had entered another reality and was inside of a story book and had no control over what would happen. Visuals much like the Azures.

Third was 4 grams gold cap cubensis dried and eaten. This trip was relatively mild with visuals in comparison but had an awesome body high. At one point I "left my body" so to speak, I could not move whatsoever and could not see anything and could only faintly hear things as though they were far away and had no concept of time or how long this was happening for. When I came out of it my friend said I had been sitting there frozen for 10 minutes.

On a separate note, I once ate 7 grams of Azures with lemon juice on them and after consuming alcohol(mistake) and the affects were not at all like tripping.  All that happened was I was unable to focus my eyes on anything like I had a fixed double vision which was incredibly irritating, had to close my eyes to avoid it. And it felt like my head turned into a ton of bricks, literally felt like my head outweighed my body significantly. I would stand up and try to walk only to be thrown off balance by the weight of my head and nearly fall over. Worst "trip" I've ever had. I'm thinking the mushrooms were either bad or the vodka and milk I had prior messed it up. Not sure If I will do Azures again or not, but I definitely won't be drinking alcohol with mushrooms ever again.


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Re: Strongest mushies? [Re: Abuse]
    #14159859 - 03/21/11 03:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Right, I officially wanna try Psilocybe Azurescens now!! I always thought Semilanceatas were the stongest :noob:




Nah, LCs are the strongest IME.  But they have to be picked at the right phase of the moon.  :lol:

Still, I'll take Ps. cyans any day over cubes, though (no offense to my happy cube babies).

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