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Lotus_444
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I find it hard to believe..
#14134183 - 03/16/11 10:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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So I talked to this guy. He starts telling me that he made a BRF and vermiculite casing. He said all he did was mix up the traditional BRF and verm as you would for jars, put all the mixture in a small tupperware container, and inoculated it with B+, then covered it with sterile moist coarse verm, put it up, and had a bountiful fruit...i called bullshit, but the dude swears to me it worked.....being a newbie myself, I'd like to hear some other opinions.....thanks.
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Masticore
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Re: I find it hard to believe.. [Re: Lotus_444]
#14134185 - 03/16/11 10:50 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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He didn't pressure cook it?
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Re: I find it hard to believe.. [Re: Lotus_444]
#14134192 - 03/16/11 10:50 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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No sterilizing? I call B.S., and if it did work it wont the next 99 times he tries it.
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Lotus_444
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Re: I find it hard to believe.. [Re: Masticore]
#14134202 - 03/16/11 10:52 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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no, he said he pressured cooked it in jars, then dumped the jars into a tupperware container to get a better harvest?! IDK...sounds fishy to me...i just gave him a rashion of shit, but moral of the story is, he wants to place a wager, however i want to know if he was BSing me or what? is this really possible?
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biologys
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Re: I find it hard to believe.. [Re: Lotus_444]
#14134232 - 03/16/11 10:58 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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you can crumble up cakes and case, and get fruits..but you wont get no more then if you would a cake.
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Lotus_444
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Re: I find it hard to believe.. [Re: biologys]
#14134249 - 03/16/11 11:02 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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yea, thats how this conversation started in the first place. I had indeed crumbled up cakes into tupperware, and am in the middle of my first flush. This guy is trying to tell me i can "skip the middle man" middle man being the inoculation of the jars, and just "squirt my spores" straight into the mixture when its in the tupperware...think he's just talking shit ya know?
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biologys
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Re: I find it hard to believe.. [Re: Lotus_444]
#14134284 - 03/16/11 11:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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well, as long as he sterilized it, then he could do it in the tupperware containers.
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Masticore
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Re: I find it hard to believe.. [Re: biologys]
#14134291 - 03/16/11 11:10 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sounds plausible. Not the best way to do things though.
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Lotus_444
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Re: I find it hard to believe.. [Re: Masticore]
#14134334 - 03/16/11 11:16 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I was thinking the same...probably not the best way...While i am here tonight, i do have an important question myself...I have a syringe of Golden teach, And one of B+. How would you folks recommend me growing them? I probably want what everyone else wants man, a good harvest, but also a successful grow....damn Newbies..
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biologys
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Re: I find it hard to believe.. [Re: Lotus_444]
#14134378 - 03/16/11 11:22 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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stick with pf cake, its more fool proof then grains and spawning to bulk.
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Re: I find it hard to believe.. [Re: Lotus_444]
#14134408 - 03/16/11 11:28 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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outgrow.com by rye bags compost bags a brick of coir, do a monotub. sticking a hot needle in something that comes garenteed sterile to your door is fool proof serisouly. his products = noob heaven.
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Lotus_444
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Re: I find it hard to believe.. [Re: biologys]
#14134423 - 03/16/11 11:30 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thank you. I Will. A quick question...why is it important not to inoculate a jar with too much spore solution? why stick with the 1/4cc per hole or 1cc per jar? i promise ill get a book soon!:0 speaking of, could you recommend a good mushie grow bible?
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Lotus_444
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Re: I find it hard to believe.. [Re: Grungeman17]
#14134438 - 03/16/11 11:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I Need A Book. Seriously. I want To get serious about this, but am far to undereducated...
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BlindBat
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Re: I find it hard to believe.. [Re: Lotus_444]
#14134442 - 03/16/11 11:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Edited by BlindBat (04/29/12 12:14 PM)
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biologys
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Re: I find it hard to believe.. [Re: Lotus_444]
#14134445 - 03/16/11 11:34 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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i'd get the video's instead of a book, RR's video's will teach you anything ya need to know. mushroomvideos.com
and the more spores you shoot into a jar, the more strain's you're going several strains battling over the food...it only takes 2 spores to match and begin colonizing..
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Re: I find it hard to believe.. [Re: biologys]
#14134466 - 03/16/11 11:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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There was one occasion when I first started growing where I transferred a partly colonized cake to a zip lock bag of pf cake mix in open air it colonized and fruited without contaminates.....At first I thought that it could be done but soon found out I was just extraordinarily lucky that one time.
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Lotus_444
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Re: I find it hard to believe.. [Re: biologys]
#14134477 - 03/16/11 11:41 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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i Would Love to do the video's, buuttt...for some reason, my sound on the computer doesn't work....i even bought a plastic storage shed and put stainless shelving, and humidity/ temp control unit in. thats how serious i am...its like my little laboratory...now i just need experience, and knowledge...
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Lotus_444
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Re: I find it hard to believe.. [Re: HybridprX]
#14134518 - 03/16/11 11:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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LISTEN, IM SURE IT'S BEEN SAID BEFORE, BUT..." I AM SURE GLAD I FOUND THIS SIGHT.!!!" WHAT A GREAT BUNCH OF PEOPLE HERE. FULL OF KNOWLEDGE, AND HELPFULL TO BOOT... THANK YOU EVERYONE...
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biologys
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Re: I find it hard to believe.. [Re: Lotus_444]
#14134584 - 03/17/11 12:03 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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i ment, order the 2 disc dvd set, and watch it lol instead of buying a book
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Re: I find it hard to believe.. [Re: Lotus_444]
#14134825 - 03/17/11 01:15 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Why is it that when some wierd question pops up all of a sudden 100 + people are there to answer it:P:P And when I ASK SOMETHING..its like ...*beep* you got..0..answers today..and..two..bad ratings..*beep* Every time I tell ya...
hehehe...
About that question.
Unsterilized substrate will contaminate for sure. Substrate grown in sterile cond. and then chucked into containers may not. Interesting tough, since I have been thinking of trying that myself...
Good thread..good show...
:P:P Allright..see ya soon:)
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