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Have psychedlics made you spiritual?
#14133638 - 03/16/11 09:01 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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In this thread Anon 1 says
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[my boyfriend has] never tripped and he doesn't understand the collective consiousness vibe. In fact, he's really big on evolution and thinks souls don't exist, and neither does an afterlife. He's scientific about everything...
I'm wondering, how many of you were turned spiritual by psychedelics? By spiritual I mean, believing that there is an afterlife, believing in reincarnation, believing in the soul or spirit etc. Personally I am like her boyfriend, I consider myself as reasonable and rational as is realistic for a human. I don't believe in god, the soul or an afterlife. I have taken MDMA, mushrooms, salvia, weed, DMT (oral and smoked), and mescaline. Though many times the experiences were extremely enjoyable or interesting they didn't change my view on spirituality.
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Re: Have psychedlics made you spiritual? [Re: crazyboy25]
#14133651 - 03/16/11 09:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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DMT showed me the spirit world. I'm not really sure if I live my life as a spiritual person though.
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Re: Have psychedlics made you spiritual? [Re: crazyboy25] 3
#14133656 - 03/16/11 09:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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no they made me gay.
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Re: Have psychedlics made you spiritual? [Re: crazyboy25] 2
#14133660 - 03/16/11 09:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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No, if anything they've helped push my viewpoints in the opposite direction.
I don't believe in a soul or an afterlife either.
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Re: Have psychedlics made you spiritual? [Re: crazyboy25]
#14133664 - 03/16/11 09:04 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Not really but they did help convert me from being an atheist to an agnostic. All I know is that we don't know shit, and won't until we die. So I just don't question it anymore. Anybody who thinks they know what is going to happen or why we are here is fooling themselves.
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Re: Have psychedlics made you spiritual? [Re: LoveYourLife]
#14133675 - 03/16/11 09:05 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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sorry charlie
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Re: Have psychedlics made you spiritual? [Re: crazyboy25]
#14133677 - 03/16/11 09:06 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes. I mean, I used to believe in the religious god I guess, then a few years ago I took lsd, and i haven't really looked back since. Not saying LSD made me not religious but i think it slowly over time made me a lot more open minded. I am older now too I guess but I give credit to Lucy for showing me what could be.
I consider- inner self to be spirituality, so have psychedelics made me more spiritual i'd say yes. but spirituality to me has nothing to do with religion .
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Re: Have psychedlics made you spiritual? [Re: crazyboy25]
#14133678 - 03/16/11 09:06 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Mushrooms made me more spiritual, but I discovered their existence while researching religion with the intent of experiencing it's original form, so in retrospect I see how my bias filtered the experience.
Many years later, after taking a break from psychs and then returning to big doses, I see it differently.
I practice mindfulness meditation and enjoy yoga, but don't consider myself spiritual. I've lately taken to describing myself as an atheist, too. Done all the DMT, LSD and shrooms in the world.
They're hallucinations!
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Re: Have psychedlics made you spiritual? [Re: uber_aj]
#14133746 - 03/16/11 09:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I used to be a strong believer in God. I was raised christian, and never had any reason to doubt it. I tripped one time with friends, and loved it. I searched around, found this site, and started growing. I had more shrooms than I knew what to do with, and I was tripping every weekend, and sometimes during the week (tolerance anyone?) This went on for maybe a year.
At first I felt like the shrooms brought me closer to God. It was like it put me on a different plane of existance... Like I wasnt a mortal human anymore, but a spirit. However, the more and more I tripped, the more I began to question if God was real. It prompted me to do some research, and I stumbled onto THIS website. After reading much of what his website had, and talking to almost all my friends about God, I am convinced that he is NOT real. He is something made up by man because we are afraid of dying.
I think that shrooms helped to open up my mind, they helped me to think for myself, and not just believe what people tell me. Its easy to think something is true if your parents tell you its true from the time you are born. If you were born blind, and your parents told you the sky was red, there would not be a doubt in your mind that the sky was red. Sure there would be people that told you the sky was blue, but what do they know? Who are you gonna believe, a complete stranger, or you parents who obviously love you, and have your best intrests at heart?
This is my oppinion of course, and I am not trying to push it on anyone. I respect whatever anyone wants to believe in. I am simply trying to share my experience with you.
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Re: Have psychedlics made you spiritual? [Re: uber_aj]
#14133770 - 03/16/11 09:26 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I was a hardcore athiest. Dismissed anything supernatural as "silly" and actively sought out such things just for the purpose of denying they existed.
Then I took some shrooms and had many other psychedelic journeys.
I think I've just realized that going around seeking to disprove everything is a nasty way to live. God is just a mental place that one can strive to get close to (or maybe even reach if buddhists are right) The important thing is to get in touch with it (him if you'd prefer). To really try to grasp the holiness of true reality. IMO to seek truth in reality is to seek closeness with god. Every religion does this (if followed honestly and not misguided by extremists). I just have an anti-establishment personality, so this "alternative" way of knowing god works best for me. I feel like it's more honest. But really every religion will take you to a state of knowing god. They all lead to the same place.
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Re: Have psychedlics made you spiritual? [Re: StaleShrooms]
#14133793 - 03/16/11 09:32 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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actually, they've made me less spiritual....
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Re: Have psychedlics made you spiritual? [Re: crazyboy25]
#14133820 - 03/16/11 09:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Psychedelics gave me a +4 Spirituality modifier.
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Re: Have psychedlics made you spiritual? [Re: Brugman]
#14133955 - 03/16/11 10:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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nope, wasn't spiritual, tripped balls and it made me feel more comfortable in my own skin, more OK with who I am, still not spiritual
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Re: Have psychedlics made you spiritual? [Re: Brugman]
#14133968 - 03/16/11 10:05 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I would have considered myself an athiest before my interests in psychedelics began. But reading about psychedelics and peoples spiritual experiences with them made me more open to ideas of spirituality and concepts such as panthiesm. I would say that my first time tripping was just the solidifying factor in my opinion of spirituality.
I don't beleive in an all knowing, self concious supreme entity, the traditional view of god.
But through psychedelics and philosophy i have been able to come about a more open minded universal spirituality.
I beleive that "god", and the universe are the same thing. That on a very basic level all of existence exists as a single entity which we are a part of.
There is a universal "soul" and our individual conciousnesses are extensions of that concious entirity, though we may not be aware of our being a part of it.
We are all apart of a supreme love, we are one with it. There is no path other than love.
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Re: Have psychedlics made you spiritual? [Re: PreparationH] 1
#14133974 - 03/16/11 10:07 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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nope.
Was always "spiritual" since I was a little kid. My mom was good about finding subtle ways to work a real sense of magic and spirituality into everyday thangs. Made my childhood beautiful and my later psychedelic use colorful to say the least.
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Re: Have psychedlics made you spiritual? [Re: crazyboy25]
#14133992 - 03/16/11 10:10 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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well i was always really introspective and pondered the nature of the universe, but i thought of myself as an atheist.
but now i keep up a daily spiritual practice after tripping so...YES
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Re: Have psychedlics made you spiritual? [Re: collinZzZz]
#14133996 - 03/16/11 10:11 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Atheist --> LSD --> Mushrooms --> Atheist.
Unless you count being in total awe of nature and the cosmos to be considered "spiritual". But i don't think theres anything like a 'soul' or afterlife and the like.
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Re: Have psychedlics made you spiritual? [Re: ShockValue]
#14134002 - 03/16/11 10:13 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Spirituality in my opinion has nothing to do with religion
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Re: Have psychedlics made you spiritual? [Re: twighead]
#14134024 - 03/16/11 10:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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wasnt before.. still not.
i definitely have spiritual type feelings while in the trip and right after but the next day im back to normal..
the only place i go when i die is in the ground.
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Re: Have psychedlics made you spiritual? [Re: ShockValue]
#14134039 - 03/16/11 10:20 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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ShockValue said: Atheist --> LSD --> Mushrooms --> Atheist.
Unless you count being in total awe of nature and the cosmos to be considered "spiritual".
its the first step
if you started meditating a bunch you'd probably get spiritual
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