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Re: how about some enlightenment? [Re: andrewss]
    #14129104 - 03/16/11 04:14 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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maybe i just need to stop going to the pub and otd lol




Dude this is not the pub...

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Re: how about some enlightenment? [Re: durantz]
    #14129857 - 03/16/11 10:04 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

You don't have to consider psychedelics "enlightening" in order to use them. They're fun.

WTF is "enlightenment" supposed to be, anyway? Magically having all the answers to Life, the Universe, and Everything? Sorry, but no such state exists.


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Re: how about some enlightenment? [Re: deCypher]
    #14129890 - 03/16/11 10:13 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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There's some quality people in the S&M forum.








YOu mean besides you and me?:whoa:

Oh yeah there's Cups and Ithink and a few others, my bad.


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Re: how about some enlightenment? [Re: Icelander]
    #14131194 - 03/16/11 01:57 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Don't forget the Mexican (i.e. me!). :mexican:


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Re: how about some enlightenment? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14131753 - 03/16/11 03:30 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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My request was straight-forward based on your OP. Ducking just makes you look weak and uncertain.

My motivations here are irrelevant.





well, i didn't mean to look weak and uncertain. i guess now i'm supposed to understand that i'm supposed to care what you think, and fucking impress you or something, and care that you think i look weak and uncertain. well guess what, lol i don't:shrug:


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Re: how about some enlightenment? [Re: imachavel]
    #14131769 - 03/16/11 03:32 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Dude, this is a debate forum...


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Re: how about some enlightenment? [Re: NetDiver]
    #14131771 - 03/16/11 03:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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You don't have to consider psychedelics "enlightening" in order to use them. They're fun.

WTF is "enlightenment" supposed to be, anyway? Magically having all the answers to Life, the Universe, and Everything? Sorry, but no such state exists.





how would you know if such a state exists or not? how would anyone know? i mean that's like saying you know what is beyond Pluto. maybe in death a person is enlightened and knows everything, who knows. i mean i don't believe it myself, but i'm not knocking it til i've tried it. and once i'm dead, i can't report back anyway.


and honestly if you like taking psychedelics just because they are fun, that is kind of sad. they get you really fucked up, to appreciate a state like that i'd imagine you'd want to understand SOMEthing about yourself you didn't before. who would want to get THAT fucked up JUST for the hell of it?


but it's your choice:shrug:


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Re: how about some enlightenment? [Re: Poid]
    #14131788 - 03/16/11 03:35 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Dude, this is a debate forum...




hey, as a detective you offered no constructive advice, how can i listen to your advice and trust you now? :kingcrankey:



as a debate forum why should people be insulting each other if i just asked a question?


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Re: how about some enlightenment? [Re: imachavel]
    #14131816 - 03/16/11 03:41 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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You don't have to consider psychedelics "enlightening" in order to use them. They're fun.

WTF is "enlightenment" supposed to be, anyway? Magically having all the answers to Life, the Universe, and Everything? Sorry, but no such state exists.





how would you know if such a state exists or not? how would anyone know?


Educated guess much?


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i mean that's like saying you know what is beyond Pluto.


It is quite like it--we know it's highly likely that an "enlightened" state does not exist, similarly to how we know that it's highly likely that asteroids exist beyond Pluto.


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maybe in death a person is enlightened and knows everything, who knows.





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and honestly if you like taking psychedelics just because they are fun, that is kind of sad.


Because we all know how tragic fun is. :crying:


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they get you really fucked up, to appreciate a state like that i'd imagine you'd want to understand SOMEthing about yourself you didn't before. who would want to get THAT fucked up JUST for the hell of it?


Because it feels good, and it's fun--not everyone experiences drugs in the same way, just because you felt "fucked up" on a certain drug doesn't mean that everybody else will.


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Dude, this is a debate forum...




hey, as a detective you offered no constructive advice, how can i listen to your advice and trust you now? :kingcrankey:


:lol:, I hardly participated in that game, and have already expressed how I feel sort of bad about it.


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as a debate forum why should people be insulting each other if i just asked a question?


I didn't see him making any insults, you must be on that new hallucinogenic crack. :awedrugs:


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Re: how about some enlightenment? [Re: Poid]
    #14131874 - 03/16/11 03:51 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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You don't have to consider psychedelics "enlightening" in order to use them. They're fun.

WTF is "enlightenment" supposed to be, anyway? Magically having all the answers to Life, the Universe, and Everything? Sorry, but no such state exists.





how would you know if such a state exists or not? how would anyone know?


Educated guess much?


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i mean that's like saying you know what is beyond Pluto.


It is quite like it--we know it's highly likely that an "enlightened" state does not exist, similarly to how we know that it's highly likely that asteroids exist beyond Pluto.


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imachavel said:
maybe in death a person is enlightened and knows everything, who knows.





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and honestly if you like taking psychedelics just because they are fun, that is kind of sad.


Because we all know how tragic fun is. :crying:


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they get you really fucked up, to appreciate a state like that i'd imagine you'd want to understand SOMEthing about yourself you didn't before. who would want to get THAT fucked up JUST for the hell of it?


Because it feels good, and it's fun--not everyone experiences drugs in the same way, just because you felt "fucked up" on a certain drug doesn't mean that everybody else will.


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Dude, this is a debate forum...




hey, as a detective you offered no constructive advice, how can i listen to your advice and trust you now? :kingcrankey:


:lol:, I hardly participated in that game, and have already expressed how I feel sort of bad about it.


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as a debate forum why should people be insulting each other if i just asked a question?


I didn't see him making any insults, you must be on that new hallucinogenic crack. :awedrugs:




i'm not on any hallucinogenic crack. he said i look insecure and whatever else blah blah i just quoted him


also, there is no BASIC evidence that enlightenment doesn't exist. a guy a long time ago started meditating and said a million times he had reached an enlightened state, his name was sidhartha ghotama, also known as the buddha. what proof do we have that it doesn't exist? what 'likelyness?'


there is none, we have NO idea what happens beyond death, or that there is any cycle of like and death that you can transcend by meditating, or that there ISN'T a cycle of life and death that we can transcend by meditating. we don't know at all in any way shape or form. and who says that enlightenment is a state of knowing everything.

if someone says, "well the gravity on the moon is etc. etc." and you reply "i am enlightened" that means you are now knowing of a subject you didn't know about previously, how is that mean you know everything? also, understand 'enlightened' is an english translation of a word spoken in india, actually long before india, spoken in pali, a language now non existent in india, about as existent as latin is today in the world, known only be few who study it. how do we know what they called 'enlightened' is what they really meant in that language.


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Re: how about some enlightenment? [Re: imachavel]
    #14131927 - 03/16/11 03:57 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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i'm not on any hallucinogenic crack. he said i look insecure and whatever else blah blah i just quoted him


He said "Ducking just makes you look weak and uncertain", he's just asking you to address him.


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also, there is no BASIC evidence that enlightenment doesn't exist.


Kind of like how there is no basic evidence that humans have souls; it's still most likely a bunch of bullshit, though. :holyshit:


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a guy a long time ago started meditating and said a million times he had reached an enlightened state, his name was sidhartha ghotama, also known as the buddha. what proof do we have that it doesn't exist? what 'likelyness?'


I'm not sure if there are any reliable historical records on the Buddha's life; we don't have proof that enlightenment doesn't exist, but there is a lot of evidence to suggest that it is an unattainable, imaginary state.


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and who says that enlightenment is a state of knowing everything.


Many.


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how do we know what they called 'enlightened' is what they really meant in that language.


We can use an Indian-English dictionary. :ghandi:


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Re: how about some enlightenment? [Re: Poid]
    #14131961 - 03/16/11 04:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

:lol: indian-english dictionary isn't going to translate pali, a language not spoken in india for 3000 years + some. honestly, buddhism in the years has been taken by people and turned into their own definition of it like a million times, nobody knows that when he said enlightenment that translates into knowing everything. no one person can know everything, it's not possible. creativity is infinite.


and i did address him, i wasn't ducking him at all. i should go re read this post, to make sure i addressed 'EVERYTHING' he stated, i was pretty sure i answered him


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Re: how about some enlightenment? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14131998 - 03/16/11 04:11 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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i thought lsd was supposed to enlighten the mind




Please explain why anyone here is responsible for YOUR false assumption(s).





no one here is responsible for MY false assumptions. just as no one here is responsible for YOUR false assumptions. enlightenment is a state of mind based on the individual. no one can tell me my assumptions are false, and i'm not even going to be an asshole and tell you your assumptions are false.


it's false to imagine that every person can attain the same thing from a drug. to say that everyone could, or that 'NO ONE' could, is ridiculous. i wouldn't take something like lsd all the time JUST for fun. honestly when a person has taken like 200 hits in just a few years, it changes them, and you can tell.


lsd opened my mind. if i wanted to get fucked up all the time, i wouldn't do it with just something that might possibly cause permanent insanity. maybe some people don't do it all the time, but a lot of people on this forum has stated they might do it once a week or more, which is quite a lot:shrug:


that's a lot of fun, you know:congrats:


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Re: how about some enlightenment? [Re: imachavel]
    #14132014 - 03/16/11 04:14 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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lsd opened my mind. if i wanted to get fucked up all the time, i wouldn't do it with just something that might possibly cause permanent insanity. maybe some people don't do it all the time, but a lot of people on this forum has stated they might do it once a week or more, which is quite a lot:shrug:


I would do it everyday until it got old if I had a reliable connection. :lsd:


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Re: how about some enlightenment? [Re: imachavel]
    #14132169 - 03/16/11 04:46 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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also, there is no BASIC evidence that enlightenment doesn't exist. a guy a long time ago started meditating and said a million times he had reached an enlightened state, his name was sidhartha ghotama, also known as the buddha. what proof do we have that it doesn't exist? what 'likelyness?'



I think you have totally misunderstood what the Buddha meant by enlightenment, because nowhere does he claim that it's magically having all the answers to life, the Universe, and everything. In fact, Buddhism traditionally takes the position that there are no answers, and you have to be okay with that.

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there is none, we have NO idea what happens beyond death, or that there is any cycle of like and death that you can transcend by meditating, or that there ISN'T a cycle of life and death that we can transcend by meditating. we don't know at all in any way shape or form.



Right, we don't know. All we can ever know is "don't know." An eminent Zen master named Seung Sahn once said "I have no faith in God or my Buddha-nature or anything. You must COMPLETELY lack faith." Hell, many Zen masters have said that there is no enlightenment.

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and who says that enlightenment is a state of knowing everything.



No one. I think it would be much closer to say it's a state of not knowing anything.

In any case, my point is that whatever it might be or not be, it's a far cry from the "revelations" you get from psychedelics. The second you put your faith into any answers or revelations, you have already lost.

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Re: how about some enlightenment? [Re: NetDiver]
    #14132240 - 03/16/11 05:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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imachavel said:
also, there is no BASIC evidence that enlightenment doesn't exist. a guy a long time ago started meditating and said a million times he had reached an enlightened state, his name was sidhartha ghotama, also known as the buddha. what proof do we have that it doesn't exist? what 'likelyness?'



I think you have totally misunderstood what the Buddha meant by enlightenment, because nowhere does he claim that it's magically having all the answers to life, the Universe, and everything. In fact, Buddhism traditionally takes the position that there are no answers, and you have to be okay with that.

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there is none, we have NO idea what happens beyond death, or that there is any cycle of like and death that you can transcend by meditating, or that there ISN'T a cycle of life and death that we can transcend by meditating. we don't know at all in any way shape or form.



Right, we don't know. All we can ever know is "don't know." An eminent Zen master named Seung Sahn once said "I have no faith in God or my Buddha-nature or anything. You must COMPLETELY lack faith." Hell, many Zen masters have said that there is no enlightenment.

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and who says that enlightenment is a state of knowing everything.



No one. I think it would be much closer to say it's a state of not knowing anything.

In any case, my point is that whatever it might be or not be, it's a far cry from the "revelations" you get from psychedelics. The second you put your faith into any answers or revelations, you have already lost.





i didn't say it was a state of all knowing, poid did, and i argued with him about that.


i wouldn't say it's a state of NOT knowing AT ALL, but would definitely agree with it being a state of not knowing and being ok with it.


buddhism as explained in vipassana by s.n. goenka, states that enlightenment is simply a state of not craving anything or being averted to anything, no more suffering. I don't know what that has to do with knowing anything or not knowing anything, but at least being ok with what you do or don't know. reaching such a state might SEEM like you know everything, but that it simply does not mean that


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Re: how about some enlightenment? [Re: imachavel]
    #14132331 - 03/16/11 05:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Enlightenment to me seemed to always have meant the moment you realize happiness is just a state of mind

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Re: how about some enlightenment? [Re: imachavel]
    #14134707 - 03/17/11 12:43 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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i didn't say it was a state of all knowing, poid did, and i argued with him about that.


I was just repeating Samurai Drifter's argument. :shrug:


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Re: how about some enlightenment? [Re: imachavel]
    #14134787 - 03/17/11 01:05 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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i thought lsd was supposed to enlighten the mind




Please explain why anyone here is responsible for YOUR false assumption(s).





no one here is responsible for MY false assumptions. just as no one here is responsible for YOUR false assumptions. enlightenment is a state of mind based on the individual. no one can tell me my assumptions are false, and i'm not even going to be an asshole and tell you your assumptions are false.


it's false to imagine that every person can attain the same thing from a drug. to say that everyone could, or that 'NO ONE' could, is ridiculous. i wouldn't take something like lsd all the time JUST for fun. honestly when a person has taken like 200 hits in just a few years, it changes them, and you can tell.


lsd opened my mind. if i wanted to get fucked up all the time, i wouldn't do it with just something that might possibly cause permanent insanity. maybe some people don't do it all the time, but a lot of people on this forum has stated they might do it once a week or more, which is quite a lot:shrug:


that's a lot of fun, you know:congrats:




Interesting that once again you fail to address the issue.

You come to the false conclusion that LSD is 'supposed to' (WTF that means) lead to some specific mind-state then go on a rant about your erroneous idea as if it was other people's fault for not conforming to your projection.

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Re: how about some enlightenment? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14134982 - 03/17/11 02:08 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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You come to the false conclusion that LSD is 'supposed to' (WTF that means) lead to some specific mind-state then go on a rant about your erroneous idea as if it was other people's fault for not conforming to your projection.




Until you said this I actually had no idea what the OP was talking about. But now that you've reworded it for me I have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA!!  :thumbup:

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