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shr00m3r

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z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom
#14131700 - 03/16/11 03:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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So a FOAF sent me these pics they are Z-Strain grown on coir/verm mix (not sure on ratio) spawned with WBS inoculated multispore. First flush. He also has a bunch of mono tubs going but they are not fruiting yet.
Been awhile since his last grow but hes working on a few isolates this is just to keep him happy for the time being could have probably used more FAE 


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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: shr00m3r]
#14132639 - 03/16/11 06:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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shr00m3r I am looking forward to see the next set of pics.
Had a similar problem with FAE.
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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: Valknut]
#14132819 - 03/16/11 06:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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To be fair the setup looked ghetto to me, No holes in the tub so the only FAE these guys get is when his lazy ass gets up to fan it out haha.
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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: shr00m3r]
#14132935 - 03/16/11 07:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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shr00m3r said: To be fair the setup looked ghetto to me, No holes in the tub so the only FAE these guys get is when his lazy ass gets up to fan it out haha.
Yah the no holes in the tubs certainly is the cause to lack of FAE (as you previously stated). It's good though that the problem has been identified, perhaps you passed this information along to the FOAF? I am sure he would be happy to hear all the constructive criticism that you have to offer. Regardless the ghetto look can sometimes produce just as good results as the "pro" setups, although this one won't unless a change is made
Tell him good luck and to drill those holes!
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shr00m3r

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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: Valknut]
#14133013 - 03/16/11 07:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Oh yes FOAF understands this, He was just rushed into the mix but now that he has some fruits of his labour im sure he will settle and do things better.
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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: shr00m3r]
#14152840 - 03/20/11 09:07 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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So FOAF harvested that bucket & 4 casing flush shortly after when the veils tore ect. He ended up with about 1 and a half oz. Bucket was "birthed" into a perlite tub so it could side pin and hopefully flush bigger, Well so far it looks like it will flush better!
 
FOAF also did some Z-Strain PF tek as backup, Just in case.
  
he did them in pint jars, They almost fully colonized before starting to pin in the jars (he knows he should have used half pint but had tons of pints on hand) regardless he birthed and removed any uncolonized material and let sit in FC for day, He then Dunked for 12 hours with pins on, Gently sprinkled verm on them wet the verm and put in FC.
Funny how the PF tek shrooms have a much darker cap, Probably from all the water logging
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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: shr00m3r]
#14152903 - 03/20/11 09:29 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Woot!
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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: Doc_T]
#14152921 - 03/20/11 09:35 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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nice, from what ive heard/seen z-strain is a pretty aggressive strain
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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: shroomiin]
#14153049 - 03/20/11 10:22 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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nice dude
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shr00m3r

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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: shroomiin]
#14155314 - 03/20/11 06:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yes it sure is, The pins come so fast after flushing its amazing.
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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: shr00m3r]
#14155528 - 03/20/11 07:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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May I also say, picture quality is great!
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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: SKrink]
#14165662 - 03/22/11 04:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Second flush on the bucket looks pretty nice, Pictures when FOAF sends them to me tonight.
Out of 4 of his monotubs 1 has a pretty decent flush for MS, The others are nothing special to look at so I will get him to snap a shot of that too.
4 little casings have started flush 2, No pics until flush is complete though, FOAF is lazy.
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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: shr00m3r]
#14165787 - 03/22/11 05:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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got some Z spores hopefully on the way, im excited as shit to get them colonizing :-D
nice looking grow
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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: stranger_danger]
#14165870 - 03/22/11 05:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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love the pics! hope that big bucket cake does better for 2nd flush as the pf cakes look to be rocking! (I just grabbed 800+ wet grams off of 20 ground wbs cakes first flush)
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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: slapphappypill]
#14167122 - 03/22/11 09:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Pics are in. Half the bucket was picked, The rest are going to be left until tomorrow to pick.
 
Here is the tub that looks like the pinset is decent

This tub isnt all that spectacular.
 
And another pic of a secondary PF cake tub he has fruiting
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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: shr00m3r]
#14167233 - 03/22/11 10:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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the 2 pics of the mono from the bottom have beautiful myc ryzo!
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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: slapphappypill]
#14167248 - 03/22/11 10:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Any tub that has a mushroom is spectacular. Looks good thus so far
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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: Divinity]
#14175296 - 03/24/11 11:36 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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So the tub that looked promising certainly was. Heres pics of it before FOAF picked the ones that were opening, He left the ones that were not open yet to grow out for 24 hours.
Here it is before pick:
 
Here it is 24 hours later:
 
So now its gonna get dunked and go for round 2.
FOAF has another tub that the pinset looks even more dense, Instead of straight coir its coir with even part husk + verm. It should be picture worthy in a few days.
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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: shr00m3r]
#14175396 - 03/24/11 11:56 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Awesome! 
I bet they'll do even better if you can fan moar and give them more light.
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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: shr00m3r]
#14175398 - 03/24/11 11:56 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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They are thin again. Do they need more light or is it just the genetics? I'd like to send you a print of my Z-Strain, to see how they perform. If you like the idea, please send me a PM.
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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: Doc_T]
#14175481 - 03/24/11 12:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: Awesome! 
I bet they'll do even better if you can fan moar and give them more light. 
Yea skinny stems can be one of 3 things, too little light, not enough FAE (fan moar as Doc_T said), or just genetics...
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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: freeskierpj]
#14175733 - 03/24/11 01:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I dont see any fuzzy myc growth at the base of the stem so i think it is the lack of light or genetics. But at a second tought, genetics?!.... no, it is the light IMO.
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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: Luger0815]
#14175805 - 03/24/11 01:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I would also agree it is light. He fans plenty but the lights are only 4K (or close to not sure on exact i know its in the 4k range) he is sort of on a budget but when he gets extra cash im sure he will upgrade
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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: shr00m3r]
#14175835 - 03/24/11 01:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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how come you don't have the 2 bottom holes in that mono? the 2 right above the surface of the myc
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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: shroomiin]
#14190977 - 03/27/11 08:00 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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So im thinking his skinny shroom tubs are caused by Genetics as here is another tub he just pulled off with some nice fattys in it.
 
Notice there isnt any holes in the tub, He fans twice a day thats it.
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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: shr00m3r]
#14191047 - 03/27/11 08:26 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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You could use more air and more light, but looking good so far.
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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: shr00m3r]
#14191081 - 03/27/11 08:37 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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shr00m3r said: To be fair the setup looked ghetto to me, No holes in the tub so the only FAE these guys get is when his lazy ass gets up to fan it out haha.
Yah the no holes in the tubs certainly is the cause to lack of FAE (as you previously stated). It's good though that the problem has been identified, perhaps you passed this information along to the FOAF? I am sure he would be happy to hear all the constructive criticism that you have to offer. Regardless the ghetto look can sometimes produce just as good results as the "pro" setups, although this one won't unless a change is made
Tell him good luck and to drill those holes! 
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shr00m3r said: To be fair the setup looked ghetto to me, No holes in the tub so the only FAE these guys get is when his lazy ass gets up to fan it out haha.
statements like the one above (calling people unwarranted names) is the reason more new folks are going to other sites- discouragement- why kick the guy over a small correctable error? this is typical of the behavior on the shroomery, try to scare folks to death with threats of contaminates or just flat-out insult them- WHAT A SHAME!!!
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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: shr00m3r]
#14191130 - 03/27/11 08:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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They don't look that skinny to me. A lot of the pics I see of Z strain have long stems. They look fairly meaty.
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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: anonjon]
#14191170 - 03/27/11 09:04 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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these are z strain from sporeworks ( so i know they are legit ) both from the same block about 2 days apart ... look nothing like your typical z mushies either , and they were sporeless ... ive seen a lot of weird z pics , they seem to vary a lot ... then theres the "theyre just golden teachers" talk as well ... who knows ...
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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: jacobensis]
#14191179 - 03/27/11 09:07 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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shr00m3r said: To be fair the setup looked ghetto to me, No holes in the tub so the only FAE these guys get is when his lazy ass gets up to fan it out haha.
Yah the no holes in the tubs certainly is the cause to lack of FAE (as you previously stated). It's good though that the problem has been identified, perhaps you passed this information along to the FOAF? I am sure he would be happy to hear all the constructive criticism that you have to offer. Regardless the ghetto look can sometimes produce just as good results as the "pro" setups, although this one won't unless a change is made
Tell him good luck and to drill those holes! 
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shr00m3r said: To be fair the setup looked ghetto to me, No holes in the tub so the only FAE these guys get is when his lazy ass gets up to fan it out haha.
statements like the one above (calling people unwarranted names) is the reason more new folks are going to other sites- discouragement- why kick the guy over a small correctable error? this is typical of the behavior on the shroomery, try to scare folks to death with threats of contaminates or just flat-out insult them- WHAT A SHAME!!!
Yea there are a lot of people that think " " once they have a pf tek grow done but there are also a lot of helpful members that have made my experience here at the shroomery a pleasant one. I've been a mod on a different forum (not mycology related) at one point in time so maybe I'm just used to it and I . If you do your research and only ask questions that you honestly can't find an answer to (many answers can be found simply by a google search) then you are less likely to get shit from the noobs lol. I've learned to just ignore them as it's a lot easier that way.
As for the lack of FAE you can clearly see the fuzzy feet on those guys going up pretty high on the stems which is a good indicator of not enough FAE...
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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: jacobensis]
#14191194 - 03/27/11 09:12 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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these are z strain from sporeworks ( so i know they are legit ) both from the same block about 2 days apart ... look nothing like your typical z mushies either , and they were sporeless ... ive seen a lot of weird z pics , they seem to vary a lot ... then theres the "theyre just golden teachers" talk as well ... who knows ...
pic on the left is awesome! but yea i think a lot of peoples "zstrain" is just gt, but others is deff somthin else.
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statements like the one above (calling people unwarranted names) is the reason more new folks are going to other sites- discouragement- why kick the guy over a small correctable error? this is typical of the behavior on the shroomery, try to scare folks to death with threats of contaminates or just flat-out insult them- WHAT A SHAME!!!
Yeah, its a known fact that 98% if the shroomery are complete douchebags. It has a little to do with the fact that most of them are high school kids, the rest are just internet dbags with 12 thousand posts in the pub and no life
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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: shroomiin]
#14191219 - 03/27/11 09:19 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've seen very different phenotypes for Z strain also. I agree that there are different genetics floating around under the same name.
When I think of Z strain I think of the one with long gnarly stems like F strain or treasure coast. (Altho treasure coast also seems to put out diff phenotypes.)
I can see the resemblence to GT except the dimples don't seem to be as pronounced and you don't see as many of the monster head mutants like u do with GT. Kinda reminds me more of PESH which was a very common strain back in the day.
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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: anonjon]
#14191645 - 03/27/11 11:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Before you guys keep raging about the guy calling his FOAF a lazy fat ass, you realize that the person making the statement is the OP right? So..if the original poster is criticizing his FOAF, you know what that means?
*pausing for the ooohhhhhhhh I get it*
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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: afrosheen]
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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: afrosheen]
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afrosheen said: Before you guys keep raging about the guy calling his FOAF a lazy fat ass, you realize that the person making the statement is the OP right? So..if the original poster is criticizing his FOAF, you know what that means?
*pausing for the ooohhhhhhhh I get it*
Internet != serious business all the time folks. Lighten up and comprehend. 
lol. 
FOAF will modify his tubs accordingly once they are spent. Just wanted to share what was accomplished with coir/verm & lack of fanning. All in all FOAF has gotten well over a HP that he will enjoy
Also FOAF is not fat or lazy, Just hard pressed on time with his busy lifestyle.
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Re: z strain on coir pics of fruits nom nom [Re: shroomiin]
#14192708 - 03/27/11 02:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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thanks i got a new camera right about that time and went nuts with it haha love the 10 mp ! and youre right most of the ppl on this site are stupid know it all kids ... some good peeps still no doubt , but its irritating listening to some of these kids with a couple grows under their belt go on about shit like they know wtf ... actually had one the other day snitch me out to a mod for calling him a crybaby hahahaha like how old are you ? sigh ... the world of mushrooms will learn them though im sure ... we were all stupid kids at one point i guess !
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