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Poid
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Re: Do you enjoy having responsibilities? [Re: Chronic7]
#14129525 - 03/16/11 08:26 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I used to think about being a fireman, a doctor, an astronaut, or some other such thing when asked about who I want to be when I grow up; childish musings about such occupations may be, uh, amusing, but actually becoming any of those things is a total bitch. When I figured out the huge difference between imagining being an astronaut etc. and actually going through the process of becoming one, I first realized that "being someone" doesn't even seem all that great; not only do you have to work hard to become someone, you have to work hard to maintain that position, and I don't think I have it in me to commit so strongly to anything (that's part of the reason I am uninterested in marriage and having kids).
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Do you enjoy having responsibilities? [Re: Poid]
#14129534 - 03/16/11 08:29 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah, of course some people are more more submerged in their desires to achieve these things, at least I can say that I'm already happy with who I am now. I just like to keep pushing with certain things nonetheless.
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Re: Do you enjoy having responsibilities? [Re: Eminence]
#14129562 - 03/16/11 08:42 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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frylock91 said: I just like to keep pushing with certain things nonetheless. 
At this point in my life, I'm only interested in pushing things that will directly increase my enjoyment of life; I'm wholly uninterested in centering my life around competitive social games that are unenjoyable and meaningless to me (jobs, careers, etc.), or around being productive/useful for others. I'm still pretty young, and am glad to have realized this now because it means that I get to live the rest of my life without this terrible burden on my shoulders that most people appear to have; selfishness FTW. 
The rest of my life will be spent high, relaxed, and burden-free, it'll be fuckin' awesome!
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Do you enjoy having responsibilities? [Re: Poid]
#14129582 - 03/16/11 08:48 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Poid said:
At this point in my life, I'm only interested in pushing things that will directly increase my enjoyment of life
Same here for the most part. 80%+ of all the extra things I choose to do are to help me with school to ensure I get a better salary in the long run. I enjoy money and the things it brings. 
So yeah, selfishness FTW.
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Re: Do you enjoy having responsibilities? [Re: Poid]
#14129631 - 03/16/11 09:01 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Poid said:Quote:
I'm wholly uninterested in centering my life around competitive social games that are unenjoyable and meaningless to me (jobs, careers, etc.),
What about debating on the Shroomery? Isn't that a competitive social game? Doesn't it make you feel superior to "win" a debate?
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Re: Do you enjoy having responsibilities? [Re: Eminence]
#14129648 - 03/16/11 09:06 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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frylock91 said: I enjoy money and the things it brings. 
I'm more of a simple guy, all I need is good weed, a computer (w/internet connection), an Xbox, and the occasional expensive dinner/lunch; going through all the necessary schooling in order to acquire a career which will pay me a lot is not worth it IMO, because I don't need a whole lot of money to enjoy life. If I come across something down the line that can make me rich, then I'd be all for it, but I will not devote my life (especially my younger years) to becoming rich, especially if the manner in which I work towards that goal (i.e. going to school and earning a degree) will not guarantee wealth (degrees do not guarantee wealth, or even jobs for that matter).
No, I'd rather just chill, and go with the Flo. 
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Do you enjoy having responsibilities? [Re: HippieChick8]
#14129661 - 03/16/11 09:09 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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HippieChick8 said: Poid said:Quote:
I'm wholly uninterested in centering my life around competitive social games that are unenjoyable and meaningless to me (jobs, careers, etc.),
What about debating on the Shroomery? Isn't that a competitive social game?
That is just for fun, and isn't unenjoyable/meaningless to me; learn to read, it's fun. 
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HippieChick8 said: Doesn't it make you feel superior to "win" a debate?
Fuck yes.
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Do you enjoy having responsibilities? [Re: Poid]
#14129679 - 03/16/11 09:13 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think someone could have a successful career, have a family/kids and still not feel they are responsible or have responsibilities
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Re: Do you enjoy having responsibilities? [Re: Poid]
#14129691 - 03/16/11 09:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Your way of life seems good to me too, and I know degrees don't guarantee wealth, but they definitely help a lot. I don't need a lot of money to be happy, I just prefer it.
But on the other hand, unlike you I do plan on having a family to live with and support in the future so I feel like I should do the most I can when it comes to salary.
Having a lot of money isn't a necessity, but when a family is involved it is a good thing I think. (As long as your wife isn't in control of your bank account.)
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Re: Do you enjoy having responsibilities? [Re: Chronic7]
#14129692 - 03/16/11 09:17 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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If you have kids, they are your responsibility, whether you feel like they are or not. 

Same goes for a career; in order to successfully maintain one, there are certain responsibilities that you must take care of; feeling responsible and having responsibilities are two different things.
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Do you enjoy having responsibilities? [Re: Eminence]
#14129722 - 03/16/11 09:27 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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frylock91 said: Your way of life seems good to me too, and I know degrees don't guarantee wealth, but they definitely help a lot. I don't need a lot of money to be happy, I just prefer it.
Yep it all comes down to preference; to each their own. 
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frylock91 said: But on the other hand, unlike you I do plan on having a family to live with and support in the future so I feel like I should do the most I can when it comes to salary.
Having a lot of money isn't a necessity, but when a family is involved it is a good thing I think. (As long as your wife isn't in control of your bank account.)
Keep in mind that many prematurely plan for this type of lifestyle like you're doing and end up regretting it--it is estimated that 40% of all marriages have ended in divorce as of 2008, that's a pretty high number.
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Do you enjoy having responsibilities? [Re: Poid]
#14129756 - 03/16/11 09:37 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah I know. I've been with the same girl for almost 5 years now and no problems as of yet. I'm not rushing or anticipating these plans by any means, it'll happen when the time is right, with whomever it may be. I'm an optimist, but I'm not blinded by optimism. I know there's a chance of failure with these types of plans. I just hope for the best though.
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Re: Do you enjoy having responsibilities? [Re: Poid]
#14129762 - 03/16/11 09:39 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Poid said:Quote:
learn to read
There's no need to get bitchy with me just for asking a question. You ask a lot of questions and I notice that people on this forum are generally patient with you. I learned to read when I was 3 years old.
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Re: Do you enjoy having responsibilities? [Re: HippieChick8]
#14129809 - 03/16/11 09:52 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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HippieChick8 said: Poid said:Quote:
learn to read
There's no need to get bitchy with me just for asking a question.
Not getting bitchy, just being silly; learn to read people's emotions over the internet. 
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HippieChick8 said: You ask a lot of questions and I notice that people on this forum are generally patient with you. I learned to read when I was 3 years old. 
You asked me a totally irrelevant question, though, which is something I tend to avoid doing IMO; why does it matter if Shroomery debating is a competitive social game? I didn't say that I am uninterested in absolutely all competitive social games, I said I am uninterested in competitive social games that are unenjoyable/meaningless to me; I told you to learn to read because you apparently skipped over the part where I mentioned that I am uninterested in unenjoyable/meaningless competitive social games, and thought that I said that I am uninterested in all competitive social games.
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Do you enjoy having responsibilities? [Re: Poid]
#14129832 - 03/16/11 09:58 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I thought I wanted to responsibility's. And for a while I had none. Had a nice cottage in the jungle of Hawai'i with everything I needed, had over $1000 of free cash coming my way each month and had nothing to do. So I did nothing. Sat around getting stoned all day.
It quickly got old, real old real fast. I got really really lazy and became a shut in stoner.
But when I have responsibility I hate them and the things they do to me. Still looking for that middle way...
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Re: Do you enjoy having responsibilities? [Re: JohnnyZampano]
#14129907 - 03/16/11 10:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah, you just gotta find the right balance, whatever works best for you; it's not always going to be the same throughout your whole life, either, things change.
At this point in my life, I could use as little responsibility as possible; I'd be living it the fuck up in that jungle cottage, I don't see how that can get any more boring than the kinds of repetitive routines that jobs/school/careers demand of people.
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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