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How to run from the cops and get away with it?
#14128840 - 03/16/11 02:07 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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If my case isn't thrown out as illegal search, I have decided to stay with a buddy. I know to never get on facebook, never call home using my phone (always a third person), and rarely, if ever leave the house, anyone else have any good tips?
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: starcade] 1
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> anyone else have any good tips?
Pay the butcher bill rather than making it worse. They will catch you.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Seuss]
#14129195 - 03/16/11 05:20 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah, and I'm looking for ideas to get around getting caught, not negative input. There are people who have been on the run for most of their natural lives, and haven't been caught yet, so no need to post things like that, just looking for positive ideas here. Thanks!
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: starcade]
#14129225 - 03/16/11 05:52 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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it's probably the best answer anyone can give you. you're only making it worse by running.
also running is for pussies.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: I R Crankey]
#14130505 - 03/16/11 12:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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go to mexico (where everything can be bought for the right price), get fake papers, cash, get a plane ticket and go somewhere where there's no extradition
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: I R Crankey]
#14131048 - 03/16/11 01:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wut a Twist said: it's probably the best answer anyone can give you. you're only making it worse by running.
also running is for pussies.
and the mere thought of reporting to prison is moronic. running from the police is real man shit, you fuckin' douchebag. yeah, go ahead and report to 12 years in prison. oh wait, you aren't facing it, so you wouldn't know how it feels, what a cockmachine you turned out to be.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: starcade]
#14131064 - 03/16/11 01:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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What did you do to get 12 years? if its murder the likely hood of getting caught increases
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#14131137 - 03/16/11 01:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Anonymous said: go to mexico (where everything can be bought for the right price), get fake papers, cash, get a plane ticket and go somewhere where there's no extradition
im lookin to stay in the states bc i have a way to make money under the radar
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#14131143 - 03/16/11 01:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Anonymous said: What did you do to get 12 years? if its murder the likely hood of getting caught increases
2nd offense, allegedly distribution mj and mush
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: starcade] 1
#14131866 - 03/16/11 03:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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You just going to wind up getting caught selling mush and ganja again and next time no bond and an even longer sentence if that's your plan to make money under the radar. If that's not your plan then your still likely to get caught somehow later on down the line perhaps when you actually have good things going for you in life and don't wana do the time even more then you don't want to now. They wont really give you twelve years for sales man that's what their telling you now so they can scare you and you cop a plea deal for just a few years thinking that you got a bargain.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: starcade]
#14132102 - 03/16/11 04:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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starcade said: Yeah, and I'm looking for ideas to get around getting caught, not negative input.
Don't ever leave the house. Especially not at night. I have had cops roll up on me as I was just walking down the street right by my house, run my ID, etc because there was a car burglary a few hours before and a few blocks away.
Don't ride in a car, lots of fugitives get caught after traffic stops.
Don't call your family or friends, a lot of fugitives get caught that way.
No email, no credit cards, no bank accounts, no employment, etc.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#14132128 - 03/16/11 04:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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starcade said: Yeah, and I'm looking for ideas to get around getting caught, not negative input.
Don't ever leave the house. Especially not at night. I have had cops roll up on me as I was just walking down the street right by my house, run my ID, etc because there was a car burglary a few hours before and a few blocks away.
Don't ride in a car, lots of fugitives get caught after traffic stops.
Don't call your family or friends, a lot of fugitives get caught that way.
No email, no credit cards, no bank accounts, no employment, etc.
Also watch the show "I almost got away with it" it shows what they did while on the run and tells about their mistakes they made.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#14132358 - 03/16/11 05:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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starcade said: Yeah, and I'm looking for ideas to get around getting caught, not negative input.
Don't ever leave the house. Especially not at night. I have had cops roll up on me as I was just walking down the street right by my house, run my ID, etc because there was a car burglary a few hours before and a few blocks away.
Don't ride in a car, lots of fugitives get caught after traffic stops.
Don't call your family or friends, a lot of fugitives get caught that way.
No email, no credit cards, no bank accounts, no employment, etc.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: starcade] 1
#14132929 - 03/16/11 07:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't think there is any way to stay in the states and not get caught. Especially as technology progresses, and the system becomes tougher. If they want you they will get you. Every ten years the amount of technology that progresses is unreal. At this rate you won't make it your whole life, and like said above, you'll do the time when you don't want to even more.
I thought about it a lot, but decided to pay the piper and move along afterwards. The whole reason I wanted to run was to stay free, but you aren't free leaving everyone you know and looking over your shoulder all the time.
If you were to run, get fake Id. Social security cards. Find an ID that has tattoos ( if you dont have any this helps a lot ) and get tattoos that match those. Whatever identity you take you must take it
New hair cut
New piercings
New tattoos
Change your figure, work out, lose weight, gain weight.
Dress differently, low key, workers man type, try to keep yourself casual.
Stay in houses that are not hot. Don't kick it in your friend the dope mans house thinking youre safe.
If you go to another country make sure they don't do any finger prints to get in or out of the country. If you think american jails are bad.....well you know it could be worse.
Like said above stay away at night time, stick to busy times and try to be on foot or on a bus. I think busses are a good way to travel on the run, but you still run the risk of one getting stopped.
Don't call anyone you know, not even from a third party phone, your friends and family are likely to give up where you are by accident, or you will slip up.
If it's only your second offense, and its an F2 ( same as me but I have a lot more then that ), you will get it pled down. You won't serve 12 years, and I won't serve 20. Spend the time and the money to get a good lawyer, and get the best deal you can, and then if you go to prison, just make the best out of it. I have had a lot of support from "convicts" that are trying to help me learn to make the best of a prison stay, and it seems it can be done.
In any case be careful. It sounds like you were already sloppy enough to get caught twice, why try running on the third? Then you def get maxxed out on the charges.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: vandago]
#14133007 - 03/16/11 07:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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vandago said: I don't think there is any way to stay in the states and not get caught. Especially as technology progresses, and the system becomes tougher. If they want you they will get you. Every ten years the amount of technology that progresses is unreal. At this rate you won't make it your whole life, and like said above, you'll do the time when you don't want to even more.
I thought about it a lot, but decided to pay the piper and move along afterwards. The whole reason I wanted to run was to stay free, but you aren't free leaving everyone you know and looking over your shoulder all the time.
If you were to run, get fake Id. Social security cards. Find an ID that has tattoos ( if you dont have any this helps a lot ) and get tattoos that match those. Whatever identity you take you must take it
New hair cut
New piercings
New tattoos
Change your figure, work out, lose weight, gain weight.
Dress differently, low key, workers man type, try to keep yourself casual.
Stay in houses that are not hot. Don't kick it in your friend the dope mans house thinking youre safe.
If you go to another country make sure they don't do any finger prints to get in or out of the country. If you think american jails are bad.....well you know it could be worse.
Like said above stay away at night time, stick to busy times and try to be on foot or on a bus. I think busses are a good way to travel on the run, but you still run the risk of one getting stopped.
Don't call anyone you know, not even from a third party phone, your friends and family are likely to give up where you are by accident, or you will slip up.
If it's only your second offense, and its an F2 ( same as me but I have a lot more then that ), you will get it pled down. You won't serve 12 years, and I won't serve 20. Spend the time and the money to get a good lawyer, and get the best deal you can, and then if you go to prison, just make the best out of it. I have had a lot of support from "convicts" that are trying to help me learn to make the best of a prison stay, and it seems it can be done.
In any case be careful. It sounds like you were already sloppy enough to get caught twice, why try running on the third? Then you def get maxxed out on the charges.
maybe your right you made some good points
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: starcade]
#14133093 - 03/16/11 07:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm just tryin to help. I'm in practically the same situation, facing the same charges, but even more then you stated. It's so tempting to bolt, say fuck the system, I'm not giving them my time, but really by running you not only lose the time, but they are gonna find you one day.
Think. I mean you lay low for 20 years......if you are that low for that long, you are practically a caveman. You won't know anything about helicopter dna scans ( just a theory ) and you will get hit by some weird form of technology you never even thought of. Like the guy from the early 80's who gets popped mid 90's cause the chick hes bangin bought a cell phone. Then he's comfortable as hell, kickin it and probably forgot hes even on the run, and gets someone elses house raided because they found out he was in it.
That's totally fear mongering paranoia but it could actually happenif things keep going the way they are going.
I've been busting my ass instead of running, becoming what they wanted me to be before they busted me. I work as much as I can, I do extra community service, I got a good lawyer, I dress as normally as I can when I'm out in public. I pretend someones watching me 24/7 and since I'm running a clean shot now, I don't worry, sometimes out of a good day I turn around and just wave at the city, and smile knowing they already got me for all theyre gonna get me with.
Not to mention if you go to the joint, your family and friends can still see you, call you, write to you, and you can somewhat chill as far as hiding from the cops. You can be calm and slow down a minute and remember you wouldnt have gotten in the mess if you would've slowed down in the first place. Speeding up is only gonna end up in crashin casey jones. You'll get meals, you'll get friends, you may have to fight, but you are prolly gonna have to fight on the run....and trust me....you can't go to the hospital on the run......hell you can't go to any dentist, doctor, vet, anyone professional.......you turn into a rat hiding in the sewer and it's tough.
Sure you could make it a year, ten years, maybe more.....but if you don't die first, your either going to want to just give in, or they will find you.
I'm not trying to hate on you either man, The tips I gave above for running are the best I know. Also if you run don't get a pet, just another hassle, and stay away from women, not only will they distract you, they will yap their gums off.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: t00th]
#14134853 - 03/17/11 01:24 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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stay away from cities
learn to live off the land and move to the mountains
buy a survival book and some equipment
only come into the cities to get supplies
the best thing to do is to get to another country
far enough that it doesnt make sense for the US to extradite you for your charges
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: starcade]
#14137221 - 03/17/11 03:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wut a Twist said: it's probably the best answer anyone can give you. you're only making it worse by running.
also running is for pussies.
and the mere thought of reporting to prison is moronic. running from the police is real man shit, you fuckin' douchebag. yeah, go ahead and report to 12 years in prison. oh wait, you aren't facing it, so you wouldn't know how it feels, what a cockmachine you turned out to be.
Good luck with your run! Don't be so hostile if you are around people at all, it'll cause a scene and maybe end up with LEO showing up wherever you're hiding, then you have to run straight up wearing holes down your shoes.
Really though, good stuff in responses above, but be as fucking quiet as you can and careful not to create an impression on folk. Loose any personality you have.
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Vandago Said: If you were to run, get fake Id. Social security cards. Find an ID that has tattoos ( if you dont have any this helps a lot ) and get tattoos that match those. Whatever identity you take you must take it
This is a really clever idea.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: numonkei]
#14139972 - 03/17/11 10:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I got busted growing mush did my time then got busted stealing 2 hand guns and a rifle that would be a 45 year sentance yet i only did a year after all that.
your not getting 12 years sorry to break it to you.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Anonymous #2]
#14145660 - 03/18/11 09:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Either do the time, or leave the country.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#14152918 - 03/20/11 09:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Anonymous said: go to mexico (where everything can be bought for the right price), get fake papers, cash, get a plane ticket and go somewhere where there's no extradition
This is literally exactly what I was going to type, to some extent word for word.
Geographically you may be better off going to canada and then getting a plane or boat ticket to cuba, or if you're in the southeast, taking a boat trip to cuba and doing the same thing there as you would in Mexico.
Unless you're trying to evade something very minor, you *will* be caught if you stay in the U.S I highly recommend against trying to "fly under the radar" and if you do, I'd say stay in a big city, like a HUGE city, and move frequently.
Really though, it's difficult to live life without peace of mind and you won't find that if you're running away. Living in another country is more like "already ran away" and there is much more peacefulness.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: vandago]
#14152963 - 03/20/11 09:47 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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If you go to another country make sure they don't do any finger prints to get in or out of the country. If you think american jails are bad.....well you know it could be worse.
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I hate that phrase. America has some of the worst jails in the world. The INSTITUTION might look sparkly with that brand new barbed wire, but the social situations, the eating, and living conditions, the violence, the rape that happens in American prisons is unheard of across the world.
All over the world if you go to prison you're a fucking "prisoner" and everyone else is a "prisoner" and for the most part you're all cool with each other. Yeah there are gangs and yeah motherfuckers get shanked and people have sex with each other but over here it's a free for all. No country in the world has a prison system that is as fucked up and dangerous as the American prison system.
I'll say it again: in some prisons in the U.S. anyone who isn't affiliated with a gang is viewed as an automatic target and will be IMMEDIATELY provoked, tested, and then treated accordingly by either being recruited, monetized (selling heroin for a gang, buying heroin from a gang to use, or being made into a sexual slave), or killed if the individual isn't game but won't back down either. This doesn't happen in other places to such an extent.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Humility]
#14153267 - 03/20/11 11:19 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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If you go to another country make sure they don't do any finger prints to get in or out of the country. If you think american jails are bad.....well you know it could be worse.
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I hate that phrase. America has some of the worst jails in the world. The INSTITUTION might look sparkly with that brand new barbed wire, but the social situations, the eating, and living conditions, the violence, the rape that happens in American prisons is unheard of across the world.
All over the world if you go to prison you're a fucking "prisoner" and everyone else is a "prisoner" and for the most part you're all cool with each other. Yeah there are gangs and yeah motherfuckers get shanked and people have sex with each other but over here it's a free for all. No country in the world has a prison system that is as fucked up and dangerous as the American prison system.
I'll say it again: in some prisons in the U.S. anyone who isn't affiliated with a gang is viewed as an automatic target and will be IMMEDIATELY provoked, tested, and then treated accordingly by either being recruited, monetized (selling heroin for a gang, buying heroin from a gang to use, or being made into a sexual slave), or killed if the individual isn't game but won't back down either. This doesn't happen in other places to such an extent.
Really? I'm sure if you offered this treatment plan to anyone in a 3rd world country prison, they'd gladly accept, that is if they weren't executed for crime they did.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: unknown1123]
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I don't know why you think "3rd world" prisons are so bad. They are as bad as the rest of the third world is proportionately.
In the 3rd world life sucks for a lot of people. There are few resources, the resources that are available don't go to building and maintaining prisons. That said, the social conditions of the region usually are reflected in prison. People don't rape each other or murder each other left and right. You go to prison, try to not get beat up by the guards, do your time, and leave.
U.S. society and life, as fucked up as it is, is not proportionate to U.S. prison society and life. Prison in the U.S. is like entering another country. Some horribly fucked up land.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Humility]
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Humility said: I don't know why you think "3rd world" prisons are so bad. They are as bad as the rest of the third world is proportionately.
In the 3rd world life sucks for a lot of people. There are few resources, the resources that are available don't go to building and maintaining prisons. That said, the social conditions of the region usually are reflected in prison. People don't rape each other or murder each other left and right. You go to prison, try to not get beat up by the guards, do your time, and leave.
U.S. society and life, as fucked up as it is, is not proportionate to U.S. prison society and life. Prison in the U.S. is like entering another country. Some horribly fucked up land.
Yeah, I've never gone nor intend to go to prison in any country, so I can't argue with that.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: unknown1123]
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Humility said: I don't know why you think "3rd world" prisons are so bad. They are as bad as the rest of the third world is proportionately.
In the 3rd world life sucks for a lot of people. There are few resources, the resources that are available don't go to building and maintaining prisons. That said, the social conditions of the region usually are reflected in prison. People don't rape each other or murder each other left and right. You go to prison, try to not get beat up by the guards, do your time, and leave.
U.S. society and life, as fucked up as it is, is not proportionate to U.S. prison society and life. Prison in the U.S. is like entering another country. Some horribly fucked up land.
Yeah, I've never gone nor intend to go to prison in any country, so I can't argue with that.
I'd like to know if humility has gone to prison in another country or if it's just hearsay or him reading info online.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Humility]
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guy you have know idea about third world prisons. Watch some locked up abroad. In south america there are prisons where they are run by the inmate gangs and people have firearms and hand grenades in them. There are wars inside the prison and people are getting killed left and right.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
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Ya I'd love to see someone in a prison with no rights, no lawyer, and can't even speak the language everyone else speaks try and say american prisons are the worst in the world. That's just not true.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: vandago]
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vandago said: Ya I'd love to see someone in a prison with no rights, no lawyer, and can't even speak the language everyone else speaks try and say american prisons are the worst in the world. That's just not true.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Humility]
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So have you spent time in a US prison, and in a third world prison? I'm curious where you are getting your biased info.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: vandago]
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> So have you spent time in a US prison, and in a third world prison?
One doesn't really have to spend time in various prisons to know how bad they are. There are various metrics that are available, such as number of inmate deaths, inmate density, etc. There are some really bad prisons in the US, but nothing like the really bad prisons in some other countries. Google is your friend... check out any of the following:
Tadmor Military Prison, Syria Carandiru Penitentiary, Brazil La Sabeneta Prison, Venezuela Diyarbakir Prison, Turkey Mendoza Prison, Argentina Nairobi Prison, Kenya Bang Kwang Prison, Taiwan
Also bad...
San Quentin State Prison, California Rikers, New York La Sante Prison, France ADX Florence Supermax Facility, Colorado
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Humility]
#14163762 - 03/22/11 10:07 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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vandago said: Ya I'd love to see someone in a prison with no rights, no lawyer, and can't even speak the language everyone else speaks try and say american prisons are the worst in the world. That's just not true.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Seuss]
#14163925 - 03/22/11 10:45 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Seuss said: > So have you spent time in a US prison, and in a third world prison?
One doesn't really have to spend time in various prisons to know how bad they are. There are various metrics that are available, such as number of inmate deaths, inmate density, etc. There are some really bad prisons in the US, but nothing like the really bad prisons in some other countries. Google is your friend... check out any of the following:
Tadmor Military Prison, Syria Carandiru Penitentiary, Brazil La Sabeneta Prison, Venezuela Diyarbakir Prison, Turkey Mendoza Prison, Argentina Nairobi Prison, Kenya Bang Kwang Prison, Taiwan
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San Quentin State Prison, California Rikers, New York La Sante Prison, France ADX Florence Supermax Facility, Colorado
Going by numbers is one thing, but humility just seemed like he speaks from experience with how stand strong he was on his opinion. I only questioned his statement like that because he seems to have no clue about prisons in general from what I gathered. Every prison in the US is different, and it depends on what your convicted of as to where you go. Saying they are like another country is just obvious, you are being stripped of everything you once knew and being taught from the cement up how to live again. At least in the US you can do things like have visitors, write to people, have a lawyer, get meals ( even if you have to fight for it sometimes ) some countries could probably care less if you eat when locked up. I'm sure some prisons in the US really really suck, I couldn't imagine being out in an LA prison for a racial crime, or a texas prison for being a pedophile, but surely there are way worse prison then this country.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: vandago]
#14164351 - 03/22/11 12:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Some canadian prison are good, others are shit.
I was in a youth prison in thunderbay, and it was nice. It was smaller, was under capacity, so almost everyone got their own cell, new sheets everyday, food better than hospital food, sometimes bordering diner good, new clothes everyday. got to go outside everyday. had blankets. tons of checks though. was considered a higher security jail. and had lots of natives.
then got transferred to a prison in hamilton. shit food, always left hungry, the cell had no cold water, only hot. the toilet was busted and full of shit. just a mattress and a sheet, no pillow or blanket, and it was winter, and some dumbshit punched holes in the window with a toothbrush. never got a change of clothes for the few weeks i was there. didnt get to shower.
kind of glad i got transferred to the shit hole. it really showed me how i never want to go back.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#14165463 - 03/22/11 04:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Anonymous said: go to mexico (where everything can be bought for the right price), get fake papers, cash, get a plane ticket and go somewhere where there's no extradition
Try Juarez, especially if your white. Just buy some cervazes and you'll meet people that will help you.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Humility]
#14165668 - 03/22/11 04:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Humility said: U.S. society and life, as fucked up as it is, is not proportionate to U.S. prison society and life. Prison in the U.S. is like entering another country. Some horribly fucked up land.
I understand your view (but also the other side).
I have most empathy with your view, however. I feel like I have been traumatized, long term, by being locked up-- and it's only happened to me a couple times, for very short periods.
This may be the most naive thing I've posted here-- but I feel like I want to do something to change this. Can anything be done?
I've considered raising awareness toward the issue, but they practically already romanticize the shit on the "educational" channels on our United States Cable System.
What can be done? Anything?
The prison industrial complex is another big piece of this machine that has become unwieldy and infected.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Seuss]
#14166787 - 03/22/11 08:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Seuss said: > So have you spent time in a US prison, and in a third world prison?
One doesn't really have to spend time in various prisons to know how bad they are. There are various metrics that are available, such as number of inmate deaths, inmate density, etc. There are some really bad prisons in the US, but nothing like the really bad prisons in some other countries. Google is your friend... check out any of the following:
Tadmor Military Prison, Syria Carandiru Penitentiary, Brazil La Sabeneta Prison, Venezuela Diyarbakir Prison, Turkey Mendoza Prison, Argentina Nairobi Prison, Kenya Bang Kwang Prison, Taiwan
Also bad...
San Quentin State Prison, California Rikers, New York La Sante Prison, France ADX Florence Supermax Facility, Colorado
I'm not posting in this thread anymore because it's becoming annoying.
You listed a bunch of 2nd and 3rd world regions and then proceeded to mention that the prisons are "substandard". No shit.
My point here is that the U.S. is a FILTHY RICH nation and NONE of that capital is spent on ANYTHING that has ANYTHING to do with prison except for making it more secure (in terms of preventing escape) and housing more people. Prison is a cash-flow environment here in the U.S. Everything is money.
Take a look at SQ, take a look at Rikers. They look like fucking fortresses. Hundreds of millions of dollars have gone into building, upgrading and staffing, these institutions.
The prisons you named are not only in shithole countries but in shithole regions of the countries (excluding prolly Taiwan). Take a look at Diyarbakir or Carandiru or for God's sake Nairobi Prison. These places are decrepit and haven't seen maintenance in decades. The facilities look like shit, the "living conditions" are also not amenable but the "prison culture" that exists here in the U.S. doesn't exist there.
I'm not arguing about "prison conditions". What I'm arguing about is that all over the world prison is like the country you live in. People don't just rape people in the ass on the streets such that the entire community knows about it while policemen turn a blind eye to it. It doesn't happen in south central LA and it doesn't happen in Brooklyn.
But it does happen in SQ, every single day; and it does happen in Rikers, every single day. Systemitized violence, rape, murder, and corruption are and have been a part of the American "justice" system for at least the last hundred years.
What I am SAYING is that these patterns of behaviors CANNOT be observed in other countries.
You want evidence? I really just don't care enough to help you out with that. I've spoken with a number of people who've been incarcerated in different places over the years and it quickly became apparent that in other countries if you don't want to game you don't have to. You go to prison, you sit the fuck down and do your time (whether the conditions are terrible or not) and then when they say you can, you leave.
In many American prisons you don't have a choice. You either game, which means you affiliate yourself with an organization of individuals who use violence regularly; which could lead to being ordered to kill or rape people or sell or smuggle drugs (which can get you additional time, easily extra years); or you choose "not to game" and get viewed as a commodity. How can we make money off of you? Can we sell you dope that you'll use? Are you a bitch/can we intimidate you into becoming a sexual slave that we can make money off of? Are you not a bitch? Okay, we'll have one of our green boys kill you to get some XP and send a message etc. etc. etc.
Do you have any idea of how many people enter American prison HIV/AIDS free and leave prison with full-blown AIDS each year? Not from consensual sex either. Thousands is your answer.
America has the highest GDP in the world. Surveillance and human COs are omnipresent in prison and yet we have the worst prisoner abuse record in the world, second only to nations like China where you can get locked up and murdered for practicing Qigong and MAYBE nations like Russia where the conditions are really bad (guards beat prisons such that they break bones OFTEN).
But one more time for the record: these are abuses being perpetrated by the COs/staff on the inmates. Show me, PLEASE present me even a couple of examples of "rampant prisoner on prisoner abuse" that happens in any other country, I'd love to see it.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: unknown1123]
#14166801 - 03/22/11 08:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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vandago said: Ya I'd love to see someone in a prison with no rights, no lawyer, and can't even speak the language everyone else speaks try and say american prisons are the worst in the world. That's just not true.
*sigh*
@Humility your ignorance is clearly shown in this thread.
Says the guy whose above quote is "I've never been to prison in the U.S. or abroad and never see myself in one (lol who does?)"
Okay I lied; THAT was my last post .
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: CidneyIndole]
#14167651 - 03/22/11 11:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Humility said: U.S. society and life, as fucked up as it is, is not proportionate to U.S. prison society and life. Prison in the U.S. is like entering another country. Some horribly fucked up land.
I understand your view (but also the other side).
I have most empathy with your view, however. I feel like I have been traumatized, long term, by being locked up-- and it's only happened to me a couple times, for very short periods.
This may be the most naive thing I've posted here-- but I feel like I want to do something to change this. Can anything be done?
I've considered raising awareness toward the issue, but they practically already romanticize the shit on the "educational" channels on our United States Cable System.
What can be done? Anything?
The prison industrial complex is another big piece of this machine that has become unwieldy and infected.
Cidney, this is a sad moment in time because we have reached the point where privatized prisons are being publicly traded on the stock market. Look up GEO, CRN just to name a few. More prisoners in prison = higher stock earnings. You have to tackle that problem before you can even begin to think about dismantling the machine. I wish we as regular citizens had more power.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Seuss]
#14169162 - 03/23/11 10:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Seuss said: Check out any of the following:
San Quentin State Prison, California Rikers, New York
May as well just kill yourself if you're looking at Rikers or SQ. Someone else will just do it for you.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: SuperD]
#14169260 - 03/23/11 10:48 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Humility said: U.S. society and life, as fucked up as it is, is not proportionate to U.S. prison society and life. Prison in the U.S. is like entering another country. Some horribly fucked up land.
I understand your view (but also the other side).
I have most empathy with your view, however. I feel like I have been traumatized, long term, by being locked up-- and it's only happened to me a couple times, for very short periods.
This may be the most naive thing I've posted here-- but I feel like I want to do something to change this. Can anything be done?
I've considered raising awareness toward the issue, but they practically already romanticize the shit on the "educational" channels on our United States Cable System.
What can be done? Anything?
The prison industrial complex is another big piece of this machine that has become unwieldy and infected.
Cidney, this is a sad moment in time because we have reached the point where privatized prisons are being publicly traded on the stock market. Look up GEO, CRN just to name a few. More prisoners in prison = higher stock earnings. You have to tackle that problem before you can even begin to think about dismantling the machine. I wish we as regular citizens had more power.
Wow, I knew there was a lot of money in privatized prisons but had no idea that anyone could buy stock and make money off of it. That's really fucked up.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Humility]
#14170011 - 03/23/11 01:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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vandago said: Ya I'd love to see someone in a prison with no rights, no lawyer, and can't even speak the language everyone else speaks try and say american prisons are the worst in the world. That's just not true.
*sigh*
@Humility your ignorance is clearly shown in this thread.
Says the guy whose above quote is "I've never been to prison in the U.S. or abroad and never see myself in one (lol who does?)"
Okay I lied; THAT was my last post .
Wow. Way to prove again your ignorance.....you aren't even reading the posts that are replied to you. I siad nothing of the sort of not spending any time in the joint. I am actually looking at quite a stretch. The quote says nothing you referred to?
People get aids coming out of prison? Gee....no kidding. They also do in africa where women get pointed at and told they will be fucked regardless of their disposition, and thats when you are FREE. People get aids in brooklyn being raped just as they do in LA, FREE. The same shit goes on outside of prison as it does inside of prison. People don't get proper living conditions, cops beat the shit out of people, people get raped, people don't eat. Prison isn't fucking summer camp, it's fucking prison. The prisons you are referring to are prisons murderers and rapists get sent to, and frankly I'm happy more money is put into them not being released. I don't want some scum bag that killed a family while raping their daughter to have a comfy life sentence.
Not all prisons are the same, and you get placed in one depending on your crime. Some states have clearly worse prisons then others, but if you don't like it don't fuck up. There shouldn't be tax dollars into giving a rapist an all you can eat buffett, and a tempurpedic mattress.
I agree the system sucks, but its whats happening, and it's not going to get different. I will continue to say that there is far worse countries where you can be free, then any us prison. I'll take slop on a plate and rape in the ass, over nothing but sand, no water, and rape in the ass thank you very much.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: vandago]
#14170230 - 03/23/11 01:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Smokin' that shit again Vandango? You aren't anywhere in that embedded quote brah.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Humility]
#14170276 - 03/23/11 01:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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only go out at night wear clothes you would not normally wear cover all tatoos/remove peircings cut hair style differently even dye hair go on facebook and put some bullshit about going somwhere far away from where youre planning to stay dont tell anyone you dont trust as much as you trust yourself learn who lives around you / and the vehicles that are normally in that area juat keep your eyes open and dont act a fool n you should slip under the radar
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Humility]
#14170325 - 03/23/11 02:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Humility said: Smokin' that shit again Vandango? You aren't anywhere in that embedded quote brah.
Ya I had to reread the whole page, cause what he quoted was my quote, and I thought you were referring to mine. I ain't smokin anything for a long time
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: vandago]
#14170511 - 03/23/11 02:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Humility said: Smokin' that shit again Vandango? You aren't anywhere in that embedded quote brah.
Ya I had to reread the whole page, cause what he quoted was my quote, and I thought you were referring to mine. I ain't smokin anything for a long time 
Sorry brah ; it's better than the alternative though.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Humility]
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damn good luck.
imo the safest way to do it is to cover all your bases. you have to change your appearance of course, whether thats losing weight or gaining it, shaving or growing out a beard etc, and you can go all out and get shoes that adjust your height and are of a size that you didn't previously wear, and you can even get realistic masks online (pretty expensive though), they are good enough that people have been using them to flee communist countries. you can also wear a wig like that douche jorge cervantes, or you can dip your fingers in liquid bandaids all the time for no fingerprints (I've even heard of some crazier people who cut their fingers in different directions until their prints were unidentifiable.
all that can be taken pretty far, but the most important thing is just simply not being recognized by anyone easily, then getting a fake ID. you can get scannable ones for a couple hundred, and you can get scannable passports to flee the country (I hear) for around 3k. if you wanted to you could change your appearance, get a fake ID, get citizenship to a country like poland which is really easy, then get legitimate papers from there and then get a visa for the US.
There are all sorts of variations on this shit. Personally I've never tried any of them, don't even have a fake ID, but I've been thinking it would be nice to get good enough at it that I never have to get anything on my actual record
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: 1tokeovrtheline] 1
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Wow, This was the most interesting thread that I've read on here in a long time. Actual discourse. OP, you can't run or you'll be more fucked than you already are. It just isn't possible anymore and for you to ask this question publicly on what is probably best known as a drug forum is just  If you will find the courage to begin to own up to whatever is going on then you will have made the first correct step. I know how mean and vindictive that LEO can be. I know how they can sometimes make things seem much different than they really are. But I also know that if you aren't just wigging out on some drug that you should not run. You will never outrun it. Maybe you are fastest at the starting line but kid, you will never outrun the long arm of the law. I'm not making any kind of judgement whether you are right or wrong or whether they are right or wrong. I'm not saying that you are bad or even that the system is fair. I'm saying that if you've gotten yourself in this far, the best thing that you can do for yourself is go camping for a few days all by yourself; no phone, no contact, no anything: and realize how lonely you will be before you are caught and probably slammed to the ground. Get some fresh air and renew that connection that you may have had with your higher power as a younger person. Then do the right thing. There is no better thing that you can do except face the storm head on. I feel for you because you may in fact have a rough road ahead. But listen to an old fool: You are going to have to face this. Sooner or later. It will be easier for you to do it now. Have a friend post in this thread so that some of us can write you once in a while or something to help make the time go by better. But not if you run. I don't know you but I'll keep you in my meditations. good luck.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Epilson Lyrae]
#14173961 - 03/24/11 02:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Watch the show "I almost got away with it" and learn from their mistakes.
read the book "how to disappear" it's actually very interesting.
and also the usual stuff people are suggesting too!
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Der Meister]
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Or you could watch the whole series of videos that starts with this:
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Epilson Lyrae]
#14175056 - 03/24/11 10:41 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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You will never outrun it. Maybe you are fastest at the starting line but kid, you will never outrun the long arm of the law.
Do you repeat negative mantras to yourself or something brah?
You are looking at this situation wrong man. Needle, haystack.
You cannot stay in America indefinitely, but you can definitely outrun the knights of yesteryear.
There are even places the U.S. can't possibly extract you from like Venezuela or Cuba. Brazil is a close third.
Your life is such that you don't know enough about hiding. There are plenty of places to hide. You're thinking of suburbia, I'm thinking of this:

The fear mongering is hilarious because in reality, locating someone is thousands of times more difficult than hiding.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Humility] 1
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I read this thread and I get your point. But what about family and friends? People come back all the time because they need that. I could see if it was murder, major distribution charges, or something extreemly serious, but for what the OP is being charged with I would think they would plea bargain it down and just go through the process. It fucking sucks, I've been through it, but it won't be a felony I would guess.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Epilson Lyrae]
#14175357 - 03/24/11 11:48 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Epilson Lyrae said: Or you could watch the whole series of videos that starts with this:
Great videos, I added it to the links in the stickied video thread.
A few corrections -
1) GPS does not tell the satellites where you are, it is only a radio receiver. Onstar does though. 2) Cell phone towers find your location by measuring the time difference between when each of its antennas receives the signal, not through triangulation with 3 towers. 3) Luggage tags are RFID and they do not have GPS receivers as that would be large and expensive.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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Don't run, odds are they'll catch you. If they aren't arresting you they can't search you for drugs. They can only do a weapons search and that's it. The only way around that is that they have probably cause. That means, don't smell like weed and don't have a bowl sitting on the passenger's seat.
There is a kinda famous case where a dude was walking out of a known crack house. A cop searched him and found crack. He was arrested but sued the cop because the cop really wasn't allowed to have performed the search. The crackhead won.
Basically, even if you have drugs in your pocket, just keep your cool and try to tell as few lies as possible.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Humility]
#14176797 - 03/24/11 04:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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You will never outrun it. Maybe you are fastest at the starting line but kid, you will never outrun the long arm of the law.
Do you repeat negative mantras to yourself or something brah?
You are looking at this situation wrong man. Needle, haystack.
You cannot stay in America indefinitely, but you can definitely outrun the knights of yesteryear.
There are even places the U.S. can't possibly extract you from like Venezuela or Cuba. Brazil is a close third.
Your life is such that you don't know enough about hiding. There are plenty of places to hide. You're thinking of suburbia, I'm thinking of this:

The fear mongering is hilarious because in reality, locating someone is thousands of times more difficult than hiding.
You are suggesting over a year or two in prison you drop your whole way of life, your friends, family, pets, any goals you had. I mean seriously why would someone go to brazil and hide in a hut because they are facing a year in prison. And really from the sounds of it you are just as big as a fear mongering guy, with all your talk of rape this, aids that. Some people fuck up, that's no reason to start living a life on the run, never knowing whats going to happen next and give everything up.
Being in county alone I could never have thought " man if these walls fall down I'm outta here" . I'm in this world for the love. I'm not in it for myself. I'm not going to ditch all the love that surrounds me to have myself somewhere in a delusion I'm free, because you are never free no matter where you go, and no matter what, you always have you, so who cares where you go.....as long as people still love and care about you as much as you do them.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: vandago]
#14180813 - 03/25/11 07:59 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't have the kind of tie-downs that you do in my life.
I could do maybe up to 12-18 mos. if I were arrested for some sort of commercial crime that I was supporting myself off of such as being in possession of or selling this or that.
Anything longer than that and it simply doesn't benefit me to stay here. I could come and visit my family whenever I want (middle of the ghetto); and honestly I don't really have any reason to be here. My area isn't nice, I don't own a home or any substantial property and my familial ties are strained at best.
I speak two foreign languages and I'm proficient in a number of dialects of my native language. I can communicate with the entirety of the Americas, Australia, NZ, and the majority of Western Europe.
I'm more of a world traveler anyway. I barely need an excuse to get lost. I'd rather be fucking sexy Brazilian women in the ass (s00per easy) than playing dominoes with a bunch of swinging dicks.
But hey, that's just me.
Lots of people talk about making the most of prison. I'd rather just go on vacation.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Humility]
#14181179 - 03/25/11 10:00 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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> I can communicate with the entirety of the Americas
You speak Patois? I'm impressed, especially considering how many dialects there are across the various islands in the Caribbean. Just in the islands around where I live, people speak English, French, Dutch, Spanish, Portuguese, and twenty or so dialects of Patois (which is kind of like Jive).
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Seuss]
#14193499 - 03/27/11 05:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Basically what people Alan said about everything you need to drop and never pick back up again is what is necessary to run and never get caught. Can you do without email, cell phones, direct communication with your family, never really leaving the house, everything everyone has mentioned? If you really think it through and the answer is yes then you can try it. I can't imagine going on the run for the rest of my life with the way technology keeps changing. You really would have to live cut off from the rest of the world.
If you decide to do it I hear Buenos Aires is beautiful and cheap living and you could live in a pretty modern city that way if you can pick up the language.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Bipolarbear]
#14223304 - 04/01/11 09:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Get out of the U.S. its the only way. If you stay here you're one public intox or domestic situation away from having your prints run no matter how good your fake ID is. Doesnt matter if you never talk to anyone you ever knew before all it takes is getting pulled over and your fake ID not passing, then getting your prints run. If you do flea to a different country you're gonna need a good bit of cash to get where you feel comfortable. Drop your American IDs and pick up some legit ID from a foreign country.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Anonymous #5]
#14224440 - 04/02/11 12:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I agree you would have to leave the U.S. I would only do this if I was looking at 10 years or more which I actually was at one point and South America did not sound like such a bad place to go. Of course you would have to completely start a new but chances are you would not get extradited back unless you committed murder.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: vandago]
#14226109 - 04/02/11 01:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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vandago said: I don't think there is any way to stay in the states and not get caught. Especially as technology progresses, and the system becomes tougher. If they want you they will get you. Every ten years the amount of technology that progresses is unreal. At this rate you won't make it your whole life, and like said above, you'll do the time when you don't want to even more.
I thought about it a lot, but decided to pay the piper and move along afterwards. The whole reason I wanted to run was to stay free, but you aren't free leaving everyone you know and looking over your shoulder all the time.
If you were to run, get fake Id. Social security cards. Find an ID that has tattoos ( if you dont have any this helps a lot ) and get tattoos that match those. Whatever identity you take you must take it
New hair cut
New piercings
New tattoos
Change your figure, work out, lose weight, gain weight.
Dress differently, low key, workers man type, try to keep yourself casual.
Stay in houses that are not hot. Don't kick it in your friend the dope mans house thinking youre safe.
If you go to another country make sure they don't do any finger prints to get in or out of the country. If you think american jails are bad.....well you know it could be worse.
Like said above stay away at night time, stick to busy times and try to be on foot or on a bus. I think busses are a good way to travel on the run, but you still run the risk of one getting stopped.
Don't call anyone you know, not even from a third party phone, your friends and family are likely to give up where you are by accident, or you will slip up.
If it's only your second offense, and its an F2 ( same as me but I have a lot more then that ), you will get it pled down. You won't serve 12 years, and I won't serve 20. Spend the time and the money to get a good lawyer, and get the best deal you can, and then if you go to prison, just make the best out of it. I have had a lot of support from "convicts" that are trying to help me learn to make the best of a prison stay, and it seems it can be done.
In any case be careful. It sounds like you were already sloppy enough to get caught twice, why try running on the third? Then you def get maxxed out on the charges.
Great post man, and my thoughts are with you in the shit you're dealing with. I live pretty close to you and it makes me feel ill when I imagine being in your shoes. I really hope things work out better than you think. It's crazy how much time has gone by and you've no idea what you're even looking at. That is the shittiest mind-fuck ever.
Technology has made everything impossible. You can't get shit anymore without ID's, social security #, credit cards, etc... Like you said, in a decade or two there will be some fingerprint/optical scan bullshit to authenticate you at a Convenient store for a pack of smokes.
The positive thing about doing time, and I'm just speculating from all the shit I watch on TV about prison (like Locked Up Abroad) and talking to ex-cons, is the immense appreciation for life after you get out. Just like the scene in "Fight Club" where the store clerk has the gun to his head... the mundane shit that drives most people crazy will be a joke to you. It'll be like being born again.
Best wishes to everyone facing so much time for ridiculous drug offenses. It's so fucking ignorant to me that possession of a drug can give someone so much time behind bars when assault, rape, and murder/manslaughter seem to carry such weak sentences in comparison (or equal).
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: 5HTSynaptrip]
#14307631 - 04/17/11 05:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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fuuck the police
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: ar1es]
#14310832 - 04/18/11 08:13 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Alright..so
Firstly, I would listen to the many people who are saying that you can not stay in US. There are many countries the USA has no extradition treaties with. These countries are mostly shit holes, and an average westerner wouldn't survive there longer than 6-10 months imo.
The following countries DO NOT have extradition treaties with US.
Afghanistan, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Armenia, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Brunei, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape Verde, the Central African Republic, Chad, China (People's Republic of China), the Union of the Comoros, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Cote d' Ivoire, Djibouti, Equatorial Guinea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Indonesia, Jordan, Kosovo, Kuwait, Laos, Lebanon, Libya, Madagascar, the Maldives, Mali, the Marshall Islands, Mauritania, the Federated States of Micronesia, Moldova, Mongolia, Montenegro, Mozambique, Myanmar, Namibia, Nepal, Niger, Oman, Qatar, the Russian Federation, Rwanda, Samoa, São Tomé & Príncipe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Togo, Tunisia, Uganda, United Arab Emirates, Vanuatu, Vietnam, Yemen, and Zimbabwe.
If I lived in the states and was on the run, I would do the following:
Modify my appearance.
Get inked. Covering as much skin/facial area as reasonable. Gaining/losing weight is bloody stupid. Unless you're over or under don't fuck with the weight. A fugitive must stay healthier and in better shape than the law (duhhh?) in order to survive this ordeal.
Secondly, I would read as much outdoor survival literature as possible. The safest place is to be away from people, rather than blend in with the people.
I would purchase a crossbow (not a gun - you don't want to go into town to get ammo), machete, hatchet, small shovel, knife and any other applicable tools that would come in handy on a permanent camping trip.
Since I would consider staying in US to be stupid, my next step would probably be to figure out where is the best location to cross into Canada. There are 27 counties that share a land border with Canada...aiming for Manitoba/Saskatchewan would be good...I do know for a fact that you can just literally walk into Canada like it's nothing through Montana. I am sure that 98% of the entire border is the same.

Make your way to Ontario and camp out in the vast Boreal Forest.
That's what I would do, anyway.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: starcade]
#14312092 - 04/18/11 01:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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@ op I suggest you find or develop a new profession, because you clearly have a bad track record with getting caught. If I were in the business, the only way I would deal with someone like you is indirectly through a middle man.
Maybe you'll learn a few tricks in prison. I hear making drugs is "skilled work", so easy time.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: maug]
#14338104 - 04/23/11 12:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I wouldn't expect extradition to be a problem as long as we are talking about relatively drug charges that don't involve large scale manufacturing.
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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: 4896744]
#14378119 - 04/30/11 02:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Statistics show that 1 out of 5 inmates get raped(or maybe it's just sexuslly assaulted).
Not sure if that is for state, federal, or both.
What I have heard from reliable sources is that if you're straight and you're willing to physically fight to stand up for yourself, you most likely wont be raped in a state prison(gang or no gang). I've also heard that rape is unheard of in a lot of state prisons.
I've heard federal is worse and I would imagine that is where the 1 out of 5 statistic comes from.
1 out of 5 is probley the '19 year old virgin who got caught growing shrooms', 'drunkrn pastor that killed someone in a dui car accident', or 'bussiness man who involved himself with some illegal stock trading'....if any of 'these types' go to prison, they'll be much more likely to be raped(obviously) because they lack the understanding of the 'criminal element'.
OP, sorry, but you're a fuck up. You got caught twice on serious charges. I bet if you run, you'll fuck up and get caught quickly.
Get a good attotney(not court appointed), get it plead down, and you'll do your first(I bet not last) prison term, in a state prison.
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