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We ARE Change
#14128396 - 03/16/11 12:09 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Puscifer - Sour Graps
And the angel of the lord led me Into the belly of the holy mother A chamber black as pitch But I felt no fear, only comfort,
For I was as a child in the womb And she begged me "Hear through yonder portal Which looked upon the heavens, And behold! a morning angel"
[Hal-le-lu-jah!]
She ascended slowly from far beyond the horizon, Her light like a heavenly finger pointing the way And on yonder wall she traced for me a path Which led me five directions, eight winters to east,
[Hal-le-lu-jah!]
And behold! As my feet landed firmly Upon the vital winter of the second storm There appeared before me a heavenly star
[Hal-le-lu-jah!]
A holy virgin, the bringer of life and breath And she spoke unto me saying "Fear not the movement of the heavens above or the earth below For change is what we are, my child.
[Hal-le-lu-jah!]
Righteous are those Who look up and sway with the wind, Who look down and dance with the shifting of the soil, Who swim with the movement of the tides
[Hal-le-lu-jah!]
Who seek the truth around them And discover that we are And have always been in paradise. The reflections of heaven on earth. Amen!'
[Hal-le-lu-jah!]
And she spoke again saying "Know, my child, That there is no devil seeking To cause guilt nor harm to men.
[Hal-le-lu-jah!]
No evil, save blind faith, ignorance, And the desire for the unprepared To blame others for the devastation Left in the wake of change
Find More lyrics at www.sweetslyrics.com [Hal-le-lu-jah!]
Change, my child Change is in the heavens Change is on this earth Change is all around us
[Hal-le-lu-jah!]
And if we Are reflections of the divine We must roll with these changes, For we are these changes.
[Hal-le-lu-jah!]
Eyes wide open, We must look upon The heavens as a mirror. Wide awake, aware, deeply breathing
[Hal-le-lu-jah!]
And when the shit comes down, my child, You will be there, A true and holy survivor To inherit the kingdom of god.
[Hal-le-lu-jah!]
You will rise above the rumbles of the unprepared To greet the new day, To drink from the sweet fruit of the vine, The water of life, the blood of the risen Christ, my child.'
[Je-ho-vah! Yah-weh!]
'Go now, son, Tell them all. The ignorant, the blind paw by dogma, Blinded by faith, the doubters, the nay sayers.
[Je-ho-vah! Yah-weh!]
Tell them all, child, They can not see The kingdom of God, They can not see paradise Unfold before them
[Je-ho-vah! Yah-weh!]
They can not drink From the chalice Which holds the blood of Christ, The water of life, Until they get right with Jesus.
[Je-ho-vah! Yah-weh!]
Until they get right with Jesus. It's always gonna be Sour grapes with you, boy, Until you get right with Jesus. Amen!
[Je-ho-vah! Yah-weh!]
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I am a fan of Maynard's writings/lyrics and musical projects/collaborations.
This is one of the stand-outs to me, at this moment in time at least.
His use of the stereotypical passionate redneck preacher voice and language certainly demonstrates the cultural power (at least to me) of this voice and style.
A friend of mine pointed out something nice, this friend is always good for these things:
YesUs saves, the world of YourWay
I've had this overwhelming feeling of late (past few months / perhaps over a year) that everything I talk about, everything I learn about, is the same thing. It all links together, it is all one tapestry, toward one end. Overwhelmingly I feel this. Does anyone else feel this?
This particular song, in particular, lines like:
"Change, my child, Change is in the heavens, Change is on this earth, Change is all around us.
And if we are reflections of the divine, We must roll with these changes, For we ARE these changes."
This concept, to me is the same as the feeling of presence, being in a moment, NOT transient, but accepting of the momentary nature of reality and time. It's also the same as there being no devil, no true good nor bad, because these are subjective terms. The subjective devils are only within one's own mind, are the things we have not come to deal with yet.
Due to the fact that I feel like this is all one thing, I sometimes feel it hard to discuss all of this, it always seems so much....
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Re: We ARE Change [Re: ZenXi6]
#14135762 - 03/17/11 08:54 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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"a life is worth more than letters can describe,/
on these simple pages i write, my soul feels alive,/
i hope that with due time, we all can travel higher,/
so when the evening comes, we will be inspired/
to be engulfed into this life as one/
for the simple fact, we all belong to love/
it is our purpose, it is our heart/
without this key, our words are no longer becoming true art/
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knowing all to well, he's gonna shine/
but he's humble, and meditates on his abode/
deciphering the present, like a present wrapped to unfold/
he's bold/
as his eyes grow near/
and finally his evening comes, and his dream soon reappears/
i'll make them clap their hands, throw em in the air/ shout out to the world as his mind prepares/ glares as his eyes, capturing the prize/ begin to whim as death grins/ and he wins/ lost again? for a moment he transcends all beings/ out of the world, no longer misleading/ dreaming of truth, and his old gentle youth/ when body and mind, are above all time/ reminiscing about the past, he grew like a vine/ caught the tape, never hit rewind/ he's delayed, but with his ways, he'll get there on time
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there once was a man named sid he taught and taught no matter what he did one day he hit a bomb so everyone smoked some bongs now everyone gets some good things
death is our friend the devil is our friend god is our friend jesus is our friend buddha is our friend allah is our friend mohammed is our friend crus is our friend but love hasnt found a way yet hmmmm DOING THANGZ
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Re: We ARE Change [Re: lolwut]
#14139754 - 03/17/11 09:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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lolwut said:
great song
it reminds me of a lyric by dax that is "have mercy on the devil, hes a friend of mine" 


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Re: We ARE Change [Re: ZenXi6]
#14139906 - 03/17/11 10:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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ZenXi6 said: I've had this overwhelming feeling of late (past few months / perhaps over a year) that everything I talk about, everything I learn about, is the same thing. It all links together, it is all one tapestry, toward one end. Overwhelmingly I feel this. Does anyone else feel this?
I know what it is you're feeling. That is what I see when I vape  Divine Moments of Truth I think what you are feeling is "Truth" I guess "Truth" cannot be comprehended through words, but only be perceived through the senses. Perhaps "Feeling/Emotions (Not Sense of Touch) could be considered a 6th sense -- a sense of intuition.
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I've seen this video too, and I love that Jim Carey is talking about this. What I feel is unfortunate.. is that it's linked to Eckhart Tolle... who I think is a bit of a douchebag. He's just another profiting from what we can all know... it's the same corruption that led to religion and cults of all sorts. People shouldn't claim higher knowledge and sell it at a price. That's where idea turns to dogma, where individual turns to idol...
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Re: We ARE Change [Re: ZenXi6]
#14140055 - 03/17/11 10:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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ZenXi6 said: What I feel is unfortunate.. is that it's linked to Eckhart Tolle... who I think is a bit of a douchebag. He's just another profiting from what we can all know... it's the same corruption that led to religion and cults of all sorts. People shouldn't claim higher knowledge and sell it at a price. That's where idea turns to dogma, where individual turns to idol...
Yeah I feel the same way.
"Money is not the most important thing in the world. Love is. Fortunately, I love money."
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I AM SWIM said: "Money is not the most important thing in the world. Love is. Fortunately, I love money."
Whoa... wtf... i feel my brain washing away... the beautiful synths... the money fluttering at me.....
haha
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Money grants a person POWER.
POWER usually leads people towards corruption based on their misuse of power.
I've heard people say "Money is the root of all evil" Well sure.. in a sense..
But the original author of that quote said: "Greed is the root of all evil."
Do you think Tolle is profiting from greed or not?
Maybe he just needs more money so he can make more cool dvd's and thangs and spread the message further.
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Re: We ARE Change [Re: ZenXi6]
#14140112 - 03/17/11 10:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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ZenXi6 said:
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I AM SWIM said: "Money is not the most important thing in the world. Love is. Fortunately, I love money."
Whoa... wtf... i feel my brain washing away... the beautiful synths... the money fluttering at me.....
haha
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I AM SWIM said: Money grants a person POWER.
POWER usually leads people towards corruption based on their misuse of power.
I've heard people say "Money is the root of all evil" Well sure.. in a sense..
But the original author of that quote said: "Greed is the root of all evil."
Do you think Tolle is profiting from greed or not?
Maybe he just needs more money so he can make more cool dvd's and thangs and spread the message further. 
Yeah, that's where I find it hard.. coz you could be right - you do need money to be able to put that back in to creating more things, spreading it further...
But, I just guess I feel that in a world that is apparently meant to be heading toward oneness, shouldn't we be using techniques like social media, the internet, word of mouth, grass roots connections etc. to spread things? Our of the realm of money.. which is hierarchical connectivity to those that have the most.. and REALLY test an idea amongst those from all socio-economic backgrounds.. see if it takes seed there...
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but also u know
If a person claims absolute knowledge and thangs,
and it coincides with your feeling when you said, "It all links together, it is all one tapestry, toward one end."
Then that person who is selling something to help others reach the same DIVINE MOMENT OF TRUTH. Then that to me.
Because everything including money is probably all 'one' thing.
It's just moralists like to bicker over what is right and what is wrong. I have a feeling that GOD/UNIVERSE/EVERYTHING is a libertine.
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True... true.
Here's pretty much where I get caught and find the demons of myself..
I am rather skeptical, and don't generally like groups of people who nod and agree. I prefer groups that discuss and debate. Nodding and agreeing generally means there's one person doing the talking, and a bunch of people being passive... and I guess I just don't trust that model... But I don't know why. I have theories and some anecdotes.. but to presume that everyone is going to turn out like a previous anecdote is ignorant of me.
Money is a representation of our efforts and work and the Earth.
But, surely people can't doubt that we have distorted this money through all sorts of things, especially in rampant capitalism where a LOT of our money is... made up.
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Re: We ARE Change [Re: ZenXi6]
#14140524 - 03/17/11 11:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I am rather skeptical, and don't generally like groups of people who nod and agree
We are all skeptical though, Extreme skepticism doesn't do anybody good. It just creates conflict, especially with the mystics. It separates Astronomers from Astrologers. The extremity of that skepticism causes the two to distance away from each other. But Science and Religion can Co-Exist. There are plenty of Catholic Scientists.
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Nodding and agreeing generally means there's one person doing the talking, and a bunch of people being passive...
Well in a discussion there is the aggressive (the speaker) and the passive (the listener). It takes time to fully digest what a speaker is speaking of, so the occasional nod and agree, may just be what happens during contemplations going on within the mind.
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Money is a representation of our efforts and work and the Earth.
That is what it represents, but it's only a symbol. I think we could change what it represents. Like a piece of paper is a symbol that represents a writing pad, paper airplane, or Earth cuz of trees 
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But, surely people can't doubt that we have distorted this money through all sorts of things, especially in rampant capitalism where a LOT of our money is... made up.
Money comes out of thin air!!
Reminds me of: *allan watts - on nothingness*
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#14140771 - 03/18/11 12:08 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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well, i love money, but its not somethin to be seekin really
i love this more (or about the same)
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Re: We ARE Change [Re: lolwut]
#14141680 - 03/18/11 05:20 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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lolwut said: well, i love money, but its not somethin to be seekin really
I love money, but I'm not going to devote my life to making and/or worshiping it.
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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