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Cynosure
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Self-storage unit;
#14109082 - 03/12/11 01:40 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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In order to keep my grows out of the house, I had the thought of transferring them to a self-storage area some miles away.
This isn't to avoid prosecution, but to rather bring peace to the household. I've found quite a few with temperature control for only $65.00/month.
I would use this area to both store colonizing substrate and fruiting chambers.
How well do you think mushrooms would fair in a 5x5ft temperature controlled storage area? Would the air exchange of this area be enough for the mushrooms to survive or even fruit abundantly?
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DiMiTriSouljah
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Re: Self-storage unit; [Re: Cynosure]
#14109135 - 03/12/11 01:50 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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5x5 is plenty of room. How big is the unit itself? Is it entirely sealed up or can you feel a draft while you're standing inside of it with the door closed? If you can feel any kind of a draft, you definitely don't have to worry about fresh air exchange. Honestly, I wouldn't think that it would be an issue either way.
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Cynosure
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Not entirely sure what you're asking. The unit is 5x5x7 (lxwxh). The door is only 3'. The actual storage company itself has the units in attached rows (there aren't that many.. but some are 10x30x7).
It's entirely sealed up. I'd assume there is some leakage at the door, but it's not enough to be felt. It is also temperature controlled, so there are vents and I'm allowed to keep it anywhere from 55-80*F I believe.
Thanks for your input!! I'm thinking I might give this a go.
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DiMiTriSouljah
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Re: Self-storage unit; [Re: Cynosure]
#14109202 - 03/12/11 02:04 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Oh I see. I thought you meant that you were dedicating 5x5 out of a larger storage space. The ones around here are generally quite a bit bigger. But, like I said, that will be plenty of space to work with.
Yeah, as long as there is ventilation there will be some level of fresh air exchange in your room. Most likely it will be more than sufficient. Ideal temperature for fruiting is about 76 degrees Fahrenheit (+/- 4 degrees). Incubation temperatures are about ten degrees warmer (86 degrees, I wouldn't go above that...80 should be just fine)
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cyantific
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Re: Self-storage unit; [Re: Cynosure]
#14109347 - 03/12/11 02:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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id never do a grow in the public domian with my name attatched but thats just me ... the specs are fine though ...
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biologys
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Re: Self-storage unit; [Re: cyantific]
#14109537 - 03/12/11 03:26 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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most storage units have a rubber type seal at the bottom of the door, you can easily take duct tape and pull it tight and it'll pull the rubber up allowing a draft of air to come under the door...
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Cynosure
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Re: Self-storage unit; [Re: biologys]
#14109594 - 03/12/11 03:40 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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cyantific said: id never do a grow in the public domian with my name attatched but thats just me ... the specs are fine though ...
This is true and could be a bit risky.
However, you purchase your own lock for the door (so the owner's aren't allowed access-this wouldn't matter in the case of the police I'm sure). I could also use a different identity if this was something I was worried about.
I don't think it will be a problem. I'd say it's more risky to grow in the confines of my own home at this point.
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biologys said: most storage units have a rubber type seal at the bottom of the door, you can easily take duct tape and pull it tight and it'll pull the rubber up allowing a draft of air to come under the door...
I think I should be fine. I doubt the air from the vents is recirculated within the room, so I'd be okay. I was more curious to whether or not 5x5 would be enough room for the air to circulate in (as I've read that people advise against closet growing).
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mabachko
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Re: Self-storage unit; [Re: Cynosure]
#14109974 - 03/12/11 05:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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What about lighting for the FC?
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DiMiTriSouljah
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Re: Self-storage unit; [Re: mabachko]
#14127694 - 03/15/11 10:07 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I would imagine something like a battery-powered push button LED light mounted on top of the FC (obviously with a window of sorts allowing the light to penetrate into the chamber itself) would do fine. Don't quote me on that because I have never personally seen LEDs used, but the intensity of light seems to have very little (if any) effect and LEDs are very energy efficient. I believe there have been studies done indicating that the blue spectra of light (450-475nm wavelength if I remember correctly) is optimal for primodia formation.
Sorry, I am pulling all of this information from my memory, it should be fairly accurate, but you may want to double-check some of it.
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jokefox
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what happens if shit goes down and you get caught
its like putting your eggs in a cannon a good place to store it , but if it goes off its going to go with a BANG!!!
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Ekyldog
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The advantage of LED lighting (such as the type I use for my grows, linked in my sig) is that it's powered by 12VDC. This allows one to use many different power sources, such as solar or battery.
In your case I would recommend a rotating battery pack system. Get two (or more) 12VDC sealed lead acid batteries and a battery charger. Use one to power your grow area while the other one recharges at home, and swap when necessary.
The size of battery you'd need would depend on the amount of energy used by your LED setup, however given the size of your storage unit I think this could be a viable solution for you.
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Cynosure
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Re: Self-storage unit; [Re: Ekyldog]
#14128046 - 03/15/11 11:06 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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jokefox said: what happens if shit goes down and you get caught
its like putting your eggs in a cannon a good place to store it , but if it goes off its going to go with a BANG!!!

Good analogy, but unfortunately my house is a cannon just the same. There's equal chance of getting caught at either location in my opinion.
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Ekyldog said: The advantage of LED lighting (such as the type I use for my grows, linked in my sig) is that it's powered by 12VDC. This allows one to use many different power sources, such as solar or battery.
In your case I would recommend a rotating battery pack system. Get two (or more) 12VDC sealed lead acid batteries and a battery charger. Use one to power your grow area while the other one recharges at home, and swap when necessary.
The size of battery you'd need would depend on the amount of energy used by your LED setup, however given the size of your storage unit I think this could be a viable solution for you.
Very sound advice.. and something I wouldn't have thought of.
I will go ahead and research on LEDs if I decide to move my grow out there.
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cyantific
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Re: Self-storage unit; [Re: Cynosure]
#14128076 - 03/15/11 11:10 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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honestly the things would pop just the same without light ... light optimizes pinning but is in no way required for a grow to succeed ...
Edited by cyantific (03/15/11 11:35 PM)
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biologys
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Re: Self-storage unit; [Re: cyantific]
#14128086 - 03/15/11 11:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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just the same with out light' , not true at all, you'll have horrible pinsets, tall lanky fruits with tiny caps
proper lighting and you'll have 100times better grows.
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EvilMushroom666
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Re: Self-storage unit; [Re: Cynosure]
#14128088 - 03/15/11 11:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Cynosure said: Good analogy, but unfortunately my house is a cannon just the same. There's equal chance of getting caught at either location in my opinion.
If your last resort is growing in a storage unit I would say you should consider not growing at all
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Re: Self-storage unit; [Re: Cynosure]
#14128112 - 03/15/11 11:16 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Unless that shit is super automated aren't you need to make somewhat frequent visits? Thus raising some suspicion when the storage operator sees you dropping by somewhat regularly?
If you could pull it off with a cash deal, no name, pop an encrypted Wifi cam in there and watch the place. Worst case scenario the shit gets busted, you see it on cam and just walk away. Then again, when the Man wants to find someone, the Man can usually do it (purchase records, nearby security cams, etc.).
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Cynosure
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It's not so much a last resort as a personal choice. I'd say my last resort would be continuing to grow in the house.
I'm going to go ahead and finish my first couple of rounds here as I'm less than a week from fruiting. But I'm fairly certain that I will either get a new apartment or this storage unit for my future grows (which will be shortly after these first rounds).
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afrosheen
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EvilMushroom666 said:
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Cynosure said: Good analogy, but unfortunately my house is a cannon just the same. There's equal chance of getting caught at either location in my opinion.
If your last resort is growing in a storage unit I would say you should consider not growing at all 
Exactly what I thought after reading the first post. At least with your house you have some modicum of privacy. Renting a unit belonging to another company with your name all over it is just a really sketchy idea. I imagine meth cooks and pot cultivators have done this too and they probably watch people really closely that visit their units too frequently, "checking up" on things.
Sometimes you just shouldn't grow, and I believe this is one of those times. Change your situation if you feel compelled but please don't even attempt this. I'd grow at a very trusted friend's house before I'd even ponder something like this.
>Edit: like you are saying, getting a dirt cheap apartment is better than a storage unit. I imagine if it's worth enough to you, you could get a tiny studio in the ghetto.
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Edited by afrosheen (03/15/11 11:21 PM)
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cyantific
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Re: Self-storage unit; [Re: biologys]
#14128126 - 03/15/11 11:18 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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have you ever tried it ? i have and it fruits and grows pretty decent ... knarled up at times but ive pulled good loads from dark rooms when i started growing a log time ago ... true it can optimize a grow but i can say from experience its not gonna be such a detriment as to ruin a grow ...
perhaps "just the same" was a wrong choice of words are you are right it wont be asgood ... all the same was more what i was aiming for ...
Edited by cyantific (03/15/11 11:33 PM)
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Cynosure
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Re: Self-storage unit; [Re: Treefeeler]
#14128131 - 03/15/11 11:19 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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The offices of the storage units are miles away from the actual units themselves.
The units are unmonitored and in "the boonies" as we call it. Very far from civilization.
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