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mushoom tea
    #14126438 - 03/15/11 06:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm planning on shrooming this weekend, I took a break from doing it as much as I did (almost every weekend) and it's been a couple months, the reason mainly being because I really dislike the taste of shrooms. and I've heard shroom tea doesn't nearly as bad...
first of all, is this true? also how do you make this tea? you can link me to another forum explaining if you'd like. but also what are some of your own methods? and how is it potency wise?


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: groovystoner]
    #14126455 - 03/15/11 06:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

There are many mushroom tea recipies, just type "mushroom tea" in the search of the forums on this site and you will get many recipes. Also at the homepage under general info I think.

Basically just boil water, then steep the water in tea and mushrooms, presto.

And yes, it tastes much better, just like musty tea. You can even use coffee. It hits you faster but doesn't last as long.


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: Toe_Jam]
    #14132533 - 03/16/11 05:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

psilly cider...
steep shrooms in boiling water; strain...
simmer shrooms in fresh boiling water with squeeze lemon juice; strain...
boil shrooms again with cinnamon, ginger, cloves, allspice; strain...
combine 3 teas & add frozen condensed apple juice...
chugalug hot or cold...
leftovers can be frozen into psillycubes/psillycicles...


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: gnrm23]
    #14133081 - 03/16/11 07:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Using cranberry juice recently.... Powder and add... Boil and strain


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: HarryL]
    #14133130 - 03/16/11 07:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Powderise your shrooms (if dry) or chop them up (if fresh - better fresh), put them in your tea strainer along with some of your favourite tea / tea like beverage leaves.

Add boiling water.

Drink.

I find the whole thing far more ritualistic and a preferable method.  I love a good ol' mushroom tea evening!  It's my favourite of methods, probably because I'm a big fan of tea, and tea drinking can easily be turned into something ceremonious, which is always a nice touch to a trip.


Good luck!  I'm hoping to be drinking some mushrooms tea fairly soon too... mmmm


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: HarryL]
    #14133135 - 03/16/11 07:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

This is my preferred method of ingestion. The how to was already answered by those above me, and all I am here to say is that mushroom tea will not do you wrong!

The only downside is having a belly full of hot liquid whilst feeling an onset rather rapidly....that does not brood well with me from time to time.


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: RoastedPete]
    #14133150 - 03/16/11 07:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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This is my preferred method of ingestion. The how to was already answered by those above me, and all I am here to say is that mushroom tea will not do you wrong!

The only downside is having a belly full of hot liquid whilst feeling an onset rather rapidly....that does not brood well with me from time to time.




Oh yes, good point... mushroom tea often gives me an over abundance of the "Have I peed myself?" and the come-up queasies... but I've never vomitted, and it quickly turns from an anxiousy-full tummy feeling to.. tripping.  No anxiety, because it was purely physical.


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: ZenXi6]
    #14133170 - 03/16/11 07:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I agree with Zen. But to each has there own. I could see this way being an advantage if it helped with digestion or something..


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: ZenXi6]
    #14134589 - 03/17/11 12:05 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

@ZenXi6
how long should I let it the water and shrooms and tea sit in the strainer for ?
of you can, explain this method in detail, cause I like the idea, It sounds simple Yet nice


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: groovystoner]
    #14134619 - 03/17/11 12:13 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Simple, delicious and nice it is!  I'd steep for around 10 minutes or so.. better to steep mushrooms for longer - perhaps wait for a little bit before adding tea, or you'll get strong tasting tea!  But, that may BE your cup of tea...

I'd say around 10 minutes is probably good steeping time - cutting up the mushrooms is the main thing, you want small bits so every little bit of delicious psychedelic can be juiced of its goodness!


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: ZenXi6]
    #14134659 - 03/17/11 12:27 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

alright thanks, ok not a big tea guy , but i figure it's much tastier than shrooms alone.


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: groovystoner]
    #14135106 - 03/17/11 02:48 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I can attest that making shroom tea is much more desirable for me than eating them. Any time I have tried to eat about 3.5 grams or more I always end up throwing up but I have never thrown up once after drinking tea. I really enjoy drinking it in tea, it kicks in much faster. I haven't tried eating them in a long time though, maybe I'll give it another shot next time.

EDIT: Also one time I just boiled some shrooms and water and made koolaid and let it cool. That was fun :thumbup:


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: mike689]
    #14135515 - 03/17/11 07:20 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I always used apple cider instead of tea, as I definitely am not a tea person at all, and it tastes really good. The downside is I can no longer enjoy just a cup of plain apple cider, as now my mind associates it with tripping my balls off, so I get anxious just by the smell of it.

I'd usually make two epic doses in one batch, pour one into a cup, then throw the rest of the liquid and the soggy fruit bodies into a water bottle and throw it in the fridge for later use. I always liked to think that lettin the mush soak in the brew for that extra week gave it a little kick :wink:


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: gnrm23]
    #14135666 - 03/17/11 08:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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leftovers can be frozen into psillycubes/psillycicles...




Ha! That's a crazy idea, haven't heard that one. Do you know how much pilocin is lost by freezing it, if any, and how long they'd last?


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: Toe_Jam]
    #14135692 - 03/17/11 08:23 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Freezing would actually preserve the psilocybin :thumbup:


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: c1dh3d]
    #14135705 - 03/17/11 08:27 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

WHAM :feelsgoodman:


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: ZenXi6]
    #14138039 - 03/17/11 05:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Simple, delicious and nice it is!  I'd steep for around 10 minutes or so.. better to steep mushrooms for longer - perhaps wait for a little bit before adding tea, or you'll get strong tasting tea!  But, that may BE your cup of tea...

I'd say around 10 minutes is probably good steeping time - cutting up the mushrooms is the main thing, you want small bits so every little bit of delicious psychedelic can be juiced of its goodness!



oh and also, how long should I boil the water, and at what temperature?
and i don't boil the water WITH the shrooms in it am I correct? I just boil water, put tea and ground up shrooms in tea strainer pour water in the strainer and let it sit?
sorry about all the questions but I'm planning on doing this this weekend.


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: groovystoner]
    #14138147 - 03/17/11 05:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Simple, delicious and nice it is!  I'd steep for around 10 minutes or so.. better to steep mushrooms for longer - perhaps wait for a little bit before adding tea, or you'll get strong tasting tea!  But, that may BE your cup of tea...

I'd say around 10 minutes is probably good steeping time - cutting up the mushrooms is the main thing, you want small bits so every little bit of delicious psychedelic can be juiced of its goodness!



oh and also, how long should I boil the water, and at what temperature?
and i don't boil the water WITH the shrooms in it am I correct? I just boil water, put tea and ground up shrooms in tea strainer pour water in the strainer and let it sit?
sorry about all the questions but I'm planning on doing this this weekend.




What I've done, and it worked very well:
1) Simmer (subboiling) mushrooms in water for about 40 min.
2) Chill resulting tea (removed the mushrooms) for a couple hours in frige
3) Squeeze in about 1/4 to 3/4 of a fresh lemon (depending upon how much you are making)
4) let sit about 15 to 20 min
5) drink, and hold on to your butt, it's going to get wild fast

You may also wanna eat some fruit shortly after drinking your tea.  Just to keep your blood sugars in order.


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: groovystoner]
    #14138252 - 03/17/11 05:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

My recipe:

ingredient:
loose leaf green tea
fresh ginger
honey
lemon

Preparation:

Grind/chop up your mushrooms into very tiny little bits.

Peel and dice up the fresh ginger (pro-tip: use the edge of a spoon to peel the ginger :smile: )


Directions:

1) Measure out volume of water that you want to drink (remember, more water equals more musty tea to gulp down. Just use a coffee mug full...)

2) Bring this water to a rolling boil.

3) Sqeeze your lemon into the water.

4) turn off the heat

5) throw in your mushrooms and long leaf green tea and your diced ginger.

6) Cover the pot and allow to cool down for up to an hour while the mushrooms steep and let all their alkaloids into the water.

7) Strain out the stuff, add a few drops of honey and enjoy!


The lemon juice brings the pH of the water up to increase efficiency of the extraction. Plus it tastes good.

The ginger will settle your stomach and prevent nausea. Plus it tastes good.

The honey... well, it tastes good!

Remember, you won't be able to extract all the goodies out of the shrooms into the water, so if you want a full 3.5g trip, maybe put 4g into the tea.

DO NOT BOIL! Too much heat will degrade the psilocybin. Bring the water to a boil, TURN THE HEAT OFF, and THEN put in the shrooms. Just let them steep until the water isn't hot anymore.


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: groovystoner]
    #14138267 - 03/17/11 06:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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ZenXi6 said:
Simple, delicious and nice it is!  I'd steep for around 10 minutes or so.. better to steep mushrooms for longer - perhaps wait for a little bit before adding tea, or you'll get strong tasting tea!  But, that may BE your cup of tea...

I'd say around 10 minutes is probably good steeping time - cutting up the mushrooms is the main thing, you want small bits so every little bit of delicious psychedelic can be juiced of its goodness!



oh and also, how long should I boil the water, and at what temperature?
and i don't boil the water WITH the shrooms in it am I correct? I just boil water, put tea and ground up shrooms in tea strainer pour water in the strainer and let it sit?
sorry about all the questions but I'm planning on doing this this weekend.




Fun fact: Boiling water is always the same temperature 100 degrees C (with minor variation due to altitude).


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: healing]
    #14138818 - 03/17/11 07:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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ZenXi6 said:
Simple, delicious and nice it is!  I'd steep for around 10 minutes or so.. better to steep mushrooms for longer - perhaps wait for a little bit before adding tea, or you'll get strong tasting tea!  But, that may BE your cup of tea...

I'd say around 10 minutes is probably good steeping time - cutting up the mushrooms is the main thing, you want small bits so every little bit of delicious psychedelic can be juiced of its goodness!



oh and also, how long should I boil the water, and at what temperature?
and i don't boil the water WITH the shrooms in it am I correct? I just boil water, put tea and ground up shrooms in tea strainer pour water in the strainer and let it sit?
sorry about all the questions but I'm planning on doing this this weekend.




Fun fact: Boiling water is always the same temperature 100 degrees C (with minor variation due to altitude).




lol.

But seriously, I get what you mean - some teas require temperatures at 90 degrees (celsius) etc.. So you boil, then wait for it to cool down a bit.

Personally, I'm not a fan of recipes or too much order... could be me anarchistic soul.. or my laziness.

Considering Psilocybin's boiling point is 190–198 °C (wikipedia).. I'd say you should be fine with boiling water.  I think boiling (100) is fine.  What I do, and has worked for me.

Boil the kettle, chop your mushies up, chuck em in your strainer with some tea leaves.. pour boiling water over top, let sit for like.. 10 minutes or till you get impatient.  Drink.
Trip.

I know my method ain't real fancy, sounds lazy and some might argue it does this or that to the potency... but maaaannnn.. the trips I've had from a cup of mushroom tea. 

I had to be stopped, giggling and naked from deciding to walk through the forest in the middle of the night to go to town.  I've had to stop myself from deciding to destroy a power transformer so I could see the stars in town at night...
I've splashed in puddles where rainbows have splattered out.... ahh lovely.


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Re: mushroom tea [Re: healing]
    #14138888 - 03/17/11 07:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I don't boil the shroom powder, I seep it for 15 minutes after boiling stops in a coffee mug with a mint tea bag.  Buy a cooking "skimmer" from Target - it's used to skim grease when cooking and is a fine sieve.  I can't bring myself to throw away the skimmed remnants ("gunk").  It is just two grams of wet shrooms and I eat that  - two tsp's. 

Also - I use honey and skip the ginger.  The lemon juice should be 1 tsp of fresh ground lemon juice.  Onset in 15 minutes and no stomach funnies.  Good luck.

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Re: mushoom tea [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14139932 - 03/17/11 10:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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My recipe:

ingredient:
loose leaf green tea
fresh ginger
honey
lemon

Preparation:

Grind/chop up your mushrooms into very tiny little bits.

Peel and dice up the fresh ginger (pro-tip: use the edge of a spoon to peel the ginger :smile: )


Directions:

1) Measure out volume of water that you want to drink (remember, more water equals more musty tea to gulp down. Just use a coffee mug full...)

2) Bring this water to a rolling boil.

3) Sqeeze your lemon into the water.

4) turn off the heat

5) throw in your mushrooms and long leaf green tea and your diced ginger.

6) Cover the pot and allow to cool down for up to an hour while the mushrooms steep and let all their alkaloids into the water.

7) Strain out the stuff, add a few drops of honey and enjoy!


The lemon juice brings the pH of the water up to increase efficiency of the extraction. Plus it tastes good.

The ginger will settle your stomach and prevent nausea. Plus it tastes good.

The honey... well, it tastes good!

Remember, you won't be able to extract all the goodies out of the shrooms into the water, so if you want a full 3.5g trip, maybe put 4g into the tea.

DO NOT BOIL! Too much heat will degrade the psilocybin. Bring the water to a boil, TURN THE HEAT OFF, and THEN put in the shrooms. Just let them steep until the water isn't hot anymore.



I like this idea, I think I'll go with it.
a couple questions though..
can I use other kinds of teas
and due to certain complications I don't think I can just leave shrooms boiling in my kitchen, so do you think it would still work if I let the water boil, pour the water into a cup, then throw in my tea and crushed up shrooms in the cup, then cover the top of the cup, wait about a hour, and then strain and pour it back in a cup and drink? And add the honey to of course


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: groovystoner]
    #14140196 - 03/17/11 10:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

k here's my idea  guys, lemme know what you think.,.
I will boil water, put a tablespoon of lemon in while boiling. When it reaches the point where it is boiling, shut off heat, pour water into a cup, throw about 3.5g of shrooms (crushed up as best as possible [should I crush em to a powder? Wouldn't it make it difficult to strain?]) into the cup, and let that sit for around 30 minutes. Then add a "celestial 'apple cinnamon'" tea bag in the cup, let that sit for around 5 minutes or so. (correct me if I should extend the times on any of this) and then strain the shrooms. drink. :awecid:


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: groovystoner]
    #14142089 - 03/18/11 08:28 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/6226/Mushroom-Recipes

For god's sake, just look in here....


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: Toe_Jam]
    #14145063 - 03/18/11 07:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I just get a teapot and put some teabags in the bottom (usually cinamon spice by yogi e.g (http://www.goodnessdirect.co.uk/cgi-local/frameset/detail/758201_Yogi_Tea_Classic_Cinnamon_Spice__15_bags.html) and a bit of fresh ginger)- boil water and pour it in the pot as usual- leave for about ten minutes then add the mushrooms in the top part where the loose leaves should be- leave for about ten minutes...pour and drink...leave the contents as such and pour more boiling water and repeat three times...if needing to re-dose take the musrooms from the top part of the pot and put them in the bottom and put the fresh mushrooms in the top part.

Works fine for me- sometimes I squeeze lemon over the mushrooms- but tastes too acidic for me personally.



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Re: mushoom tea [Re: groovystoner]
    #14156732 - 03/20/11 10:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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k here's my idea  guys, lemme know what you think.,.
I will boil water, put a tablespoon of lemon in while boiling. When it reaches the point where it is boiling, shut off heat, pour water into a cup, throw about 3.5g of shrooms (crushed up as best as possible [should I crush em to a powder? Wouldn't it make it difficult to strain?]) into the cup, and let that sit for around 30 minutes. Then add a "celestial 'apple cinnamon'" tea bag in the cup, let that sit for around 5 minutes or so. (correct me if I should extend the times on any of this) and then strain the shrooms. drink. :awecid:





I personally think that pre-bagged tea tastes like shit. Never liked it, even green tea. But when you get the loose leaf tea it's just fucking amazing! And for me, shroom tripping is a very special event and I try to used nice things for the occasion (nice tea, nice honey, nice sandlewood incense, etc, Anything to emphasize the specialness).

I personally know a guy who powderizes his shrooms in a coffee grinder until it's so fine that the dust wafts into the air when it's just sitting there. He'll put it into tea and not even strain it out, but instead just stirs it all up and drinks it like that. I tried it once and it didn't bother my stomach like it would if I had eaten them.


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14157021 - 03/20/11 11:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

ill look for the acual leaves, thanks.
were can i get those? just any grocery store


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: groovystoner]
    #14157194 - 03/20/11 11:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

mmm, you might have better luck at an organic/health food store. Although I guess lots of grocery stores are starting to carry all that organic health crap these days.

I used to get a box of the organic loose leaf green tea from a local organic store for something like $6-$10, but it would fill up a pint jar and would last me for fucking ever! and I was drinking tea daily back then... totally worth it if you're actually into tea.

Another good variety to get would be Earl Grey Tea. I don't really know if it would be good with shrooms, but it's fucking awesome by itself (maybe a little milk and sugar in it).

If you don't want to drink the leaves, or try to let them settle out, you'll have to be able to strain them. So get a mesh strainer or even a mesh tea-ball if you feel you have to.

Also, clover honey is garbage too. Try to get some local wildflower honey and you won't regret it!


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14157341 - 03/21/11 12:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

thanks for the advice, I now have a grocery list haha, I'll try and go get those items, I also need Ginger to, I read somewhere you can find Ginger at sushi bars? haha that may be random I'm not sure, but there is one at my grocery store so if they don't have it I can look there.
I also have another question, this may need it own thread if it doesn't already have one, but what are some recipes or what not to make, to strengthen visuals, etc. I know they have stuff like that in Amsterdam when you buy shrooms, but are they difficult to make?


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: groovystoner]
    #14157627 - 03/21/11 01:59 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Take it easy with tea if you are new to shrooms.  Very fast on the up!  Can freak some people out but only if you are not prepared for it, like me the first time :crazy2:  Faster up and doesn't last as long.

So perhaps go a smaller dose than you would if you were just eating them and go from there.  Have fun.


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: farmer88]
    #14158012 - 03/21/11 05:37 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I prefer the fast comeup of lemon tek or tea vs chewing them up. But for me the come up is the least enjoyable part. My 2.25g tea the other night was probably the most clear/smooth experience i've had so far. Zero negative thoughts or physical sensations. Very euphoric and enjoyable. After a string of one foot in one foot out negative thought loop trips that was very much needed as a confidence builder for me.

Tea for me from now on! Can't wait to make some tea from fresh shrooms as they seem to be more "magical" than old dry shrooms, for me anyway.

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Re: mushoom tea [Re: thormaxim]
    #14158110 - 03/21/11 06:30 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

try the same basic idea with cranberry juice... real cranberry juice, not apple juice with cranberry flavor... think its even easier on the stomach...

cup of pure cranberry juice... (can add a dash of lemon juice if you like)
add powdered mushrooms to your liking
bring to a boil (can use a microwave, but watch for over boiling)
let sit for 15 minutes
Strain through fine mess sieve (metal coffee filter).. press all juice out of pulp
THEN filter the juice through a paper coffee filter...
Add 1 1/2 teaspoons or more of honey
Wash down with something if you need
Drink and enjoy

Always make fresh ginger tea and let it sit incase the old stomach feel unsettled later on.

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Re: mushoom tea [Re: ZenXi6]
    #14158998 - 03/21/11 12:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

So after reading this thread tea sounds like the way to go.  I also liked the guys idea with apple cider, but not being able to enjoy it later would be really sad.  My question regarding all of this is if I usually eat about 2g dry for an enjoyable experience then I should use a little more when making tea, but what if they are as fresh as fresh can be?  I have read that it takes quite a bit more when they are fresh because of the water weight.


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: Sarfix]
    #14159894 - 03/21/11 03:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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thanks for the advice, I now have a grocery list haha, I'll try and go get those items, I also need Ginger to, I read somewhere you can find Ginger at sushi bars? haha that may be random I'm not sure, but there is one at my grocery store so if they don't have it I can look there.
I also have another question, this may need it own thread if it doesn't already have one, but what are some recipes or what not to make, to strengthen visuals, etc. I know they have stuff like that in Amsterdam when you buy shrooms, but are they difficult to make?




you should be able to find fresh ginger root in the produce aisle no problem.

I've never heard of anything that you can do to increase visuals. And honestly, visuals are sometimes the least interesting part of the trip. The lore of visuals will often lure in noobs, and granted, they are really cool, but there is SO MUCH MORE to tripping. The visuals are often just the easiest thing to describe to other people, and so they are mistaken as the primary effect. Time dialation, ego/boundary dissolution, tactile enhancement, simultaneous emotions, music/auditory enhancement, multidimensional thought/perceptions... there are SO MANY cool effects of psychedelics that go beyond visuals...

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So after reading this thread tea sounds like the way to go.  I also liked the guys idea with apple cider, but not being able to enjoy it later would be really sad.  My question regarding all of this is if I usually eat about 2g dry for an enjoyable experience then I should use a little more when making tea, but what if they are as fresh as fresh can be?  I have read that it takes quite a bit more when they are fresh because of the water weight.




If you're using dry shrooms, add like a gram extra.

Fresh mushrooms are 90% water (ei. 35g fresh = 3.5g dry). Some people say that fresh mushrooms are slight more potent than dried shrooms because the psilocin hasn't had time to degrade, but others don't notice any difference on potency between dry and fresh. I don't have an opinion on this.


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14160094 - 03/21/11 04:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I wonder something…

How does it come that most people/recipes go for sugary-flavored infusions or teas for mushrooms…?

It sounds much more logical/palatable to infuse your shrooms in salty beverages, a vegetable/chicken broth, a miso soup, etc.

I don't see people starting to add chocolate, orange juice, herbal teas, to their chanterelles or porcinis… so why cubes?


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: NoBrainNoPain]
    #14160214 - 03/21/11 04:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I wonder something…

How does it come that most people/recipes go for sugary-flavored infusions or teas for mushrooms…?

It sounds much more logical/palatable to infuse your shrooms in salty beverages, a vegetable/chicken broth, a miso soup, etc.

I don't see people starting to add chocolate, orange juice, herbal teas, to their chanterelles or porcinis… so why cubes?




Citrus is added because it makes the come up shorter and the trip more intense. As for chocolate and sweet herbal teas, they help to mask the taste of the mushrooms. I know there are some people who like their taste, but many do not.

Many people agree that boomers aren't the type of mushroom that you would want to use in a dish. Most do not want to compliment the flavor or texture or whatever, they just want to mask the taste to make them easier to get down.


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: healing]
    #14160315 - 03/21/11 04:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Citrus is added because it makes the come up shorter and the trip more intense. As for chocolate and sweet herbal teas, they help to mask the taste of the mushrooms. I know there are some people who like their taste, but many do not.





I don't think there's any evidence, apart from subjective first-hand evidence (which goes both ways) saying that citrus increases the trip / makes the come up shorter.  What properties of citrus make psilocybin more intense?  I have a feelingh citrus is placebo for those who believe it...


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14160822 - 03/21/11 06:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Take it easy with tea if you are new to shrooms.  Very fast on the up!  Can freak some people out but only if you are not prepared for it, like me the first time :crazy2:  Faster up and doesn't last as long.

So perhaps go a smaller dose than you would if you were just eating them and go from there.  Have fun.



im acually quite experienced with mushrooms. (i dont know exactly how mnay trips but im guessing somewhere around 15+)
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you should be able to find fresh ginger root in the produce aisle no problem.

I've never heard of anything that you can do to increase visuals. And honestly, visuals are sometimes the least interesting part of the trip. The lore of visuals will often lure in noobs, and granted, they are really cool, but there is SO MUCH MORE to tripping. The visuals are often just the easiest thing to describe to other people, and so they are mistaken as the primary effect. Time dialation, ego/boundary dissolution, tactile enhancement, simultaneous emotions, music/auditory enhancement, multidimensional thought/perceptions... there are SO MANY cool effects of psychedelics that go beyond visuals...



i absolutely agree with you. but i do lovee the visuals immensely. but your right, the things you listed above, are either just as great or greater then just the visuals.


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: groovystoner]
    #14160827 - 03/21/11 06:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Take it easy with tea if you are new to shrooms.  Very fast on the up!  Can freak some people out but only if you are not prepared for it, like me the first time :crazy2:  Faster up and doesn't last as long.

So perhaps go a smaller dose than you would if you were just eating them and go from there.  Have fun.



im acually quite experienced with mushrooms. (i dont know exactly how mnay trips but im guessing somewhere around 15+)
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you should be able to find fresh ginger root in the produce aisle no problem.

I've never heard of anything that you can do to increase visuals. And honestly, visuals are sometimes the least interesting part of the trip. The lore of visuals will often lure in noobs, and granted, they are really cool, but there is SO MUCH MORE to tripping. The visuals are often just the easiest thing to describe to other people, and so they are mistaken as the primary effect. Time dialation, ego/boundary dissolution, tactile enhancement, simultaneous emotions, music/auditory enhancement, multidimensional thought/perceptions... there are SO MANY cool effects of psychedelics that go beyond visuals...



i absolutely agree with you. but i do lovee the visuals immensely. but your right, the things you listed above, are either just as great or greater then just the visuals.


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: groovystoner]
    #14161218 - 03/21/11 08:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Last week a buddy and I made some tea, it was excellent. We turned 5g of shroomies into powder with the coffee grinder and put it in a pot of hot (not boiling) water and let it steep for 10 minutes. We used the shroom water to brew a French press full of Yerba Mate and let that steep for 5 minutes. Then we had our first glass, and poured another press-full of hot water. Not shroom water, but the remnants were still in the French press. We let that steep for 10 minutes and drank the second glass.

I was feeling the effects before I finished the second glass. Since it was a day trip the Mate was a nice touch, adding the slightest bit of clean energy to the trip.

Then we watched The Departed, which was excellent to trip to. Then we went on a walk to another buddy's (I love nature when I trip), which turned about to be about 3 miles away. I was still feeling the effects mildly 7 hours later, and the peak was intense but enjoyable. Definitely something I'd make again.


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: Sarfix]
    #14161792 - 03/21/11 10:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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but what if they are as fresh as fresh can be?  I have read that it takes quite a bit more when they are fresh because of the water weight.




Fresh (picked) is about 10x the weight of dried shrooms.  You can make the tea with equal weight water to the mushrooms.  Cut them up, add some citric acid (or lemon juice) to the water and bring them to a boil for a minute or two (won't hurt them at all).  Steep, strain, enjoy!

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oh and also, how long should I boil the water, and at what temperature?
and i don't boil the water WITH the shrooms in it am I correct? I just boil water, put tea and ground up shrooms in tea strainer pour water in the strainer and let it sit?




Boil the water at 100C at sea level, that'll work OK :wink:, and WITH the shrooms IN it for best results.  No harm comes to your alkaloids... 

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What properties of citrus make psilocybin more intense?




Acidified water extracts the psilocin as well (which neutral pH water will not do.)  See THE MUSHROOM ENTHEOGEN: The Measure of the Mushroom where he's working on the extraction teks...  This works better with fresh mushrooms due to a loss of psilocin in drying, as it's less stable than psilocybin and oxidizes easily.  The best tea comes from just-picked fruits, as they will also degrade slowly even under refrigeration.

It's the Primal way, tried and tested for, uhm, a long time anyway.:awesomenod:

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Sorry, complete BS...the urban legend that will never die.  Try it and SEE!

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Re: mushoom tea [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #14161834 - 03/21/11 10:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm actually going to make some Miso mushroom tea tonight.

I always noticed how much like Miso the tea already tasted, so I'm going to just make the tea like notmal then use that water for the miso, with a bit of lemon. mmmm cant wait


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: Azure Essence]
    #14162780 - 03/22/11 01:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yep, the same kind of earthy flavour. Please post back your results.


I plan this for a nice summer trip: fast one-two days, and prepare the mushrooms in a light miso soup with some shiitakes and tofu :mushroom2:


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Re: mushoom tea [Re: NoBrainNoPain]
    #14162866 - 03/22/11 02:01 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Well unfortunately my plans keep getting pushed back a little, but Thursday I really hope I can trip. Assuming work doesnt just drain me


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    #14163676 - 03/22/11 09:44 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

tea is my favorite. lighter on the stomach and generally more pleasant...


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