Home | Community | Message Board


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: North Spore Boomr Bag   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Mushroom-Hut Mono Tub Substrate   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
Offlinemycotreats14
Stranger
Registered: 02/26/11
Posts: 6
Last seen: 12 years, 10 months
Extremely early cap formation / growth termination
    #14126419 - 03/15/11 06:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I have a tub of Koh Sumui Super Strain and a tub of Orissa Indias which are both showing awesomely even pinning and great early stage growth, but 2-3 days after the fruits form the caps begin to break from the stem, terminating growth and leaving the fruits no longer than an inch.  I recently switched casing soil due to availability, and am now using Miracle Gro potting soil w/ extended release plant food.  The total nitrogen is .21%, soluble potash .14%, and available phosphate .07%.  The extended release part is that a portion of each of these minerals are coated to release slowly over time.  Could this casing soil be why the fruits are growing so small?

The only other thing I can think of is that I originally inoculated some of my jars with Treasure Coast, but after a few weeks had no signs of growth, mycelial or contam.  So I ended up re-inoculating some with Orissa India or Koh Sumui (not together obviously).  I thought that because there was no sign of growth from the Treasure Coast species, it was still sterile grain so still be viable for other species.  Could this be a reason why my fruits are so small?

Fruiting temp has been hovering around 73F, lights on 12hr cycle, fanning each tub a few times a day, polyfilled holes w/ fan in the same room.
Edit: should add that the sub is coco coir colonized w/ birdseed from jars, and that humidity is high enough to keep moisture on the walls.  I have never had issues with this set up before.


Edited by mycotreats14 (03/15/11 06:33 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinebakenast
Muffen Stuffer
 User Gallery
Registered: 03/14/11
Posts: 920
Last seen: 1 year, 26 days
Re: Extremely early cap formation / growth termination [Re: mycotreats14]
    #14126469 - 03/15/11 06:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

im with u ive used miracle grow prodcuts before and never have had a good experience, the additives to there soils etc throws things outta wack


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinemycotreats14
Stranger
Registered: 02/26/11
Posts: 6
Last seen: 12 years, 10 months
Re: Extremely early cap formation / growth termination [Re: bakenast]
    #14126489 - 03/15/11 06:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

@ bakenast: fuck that's what I was afraid of...  JUST cased 2 giant tubs with that shit.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinebakenast
Muffen Stuffer
 User Gallery
Registered: 03/14/11
Posts: 920
Last seen: 1 year, 26 days
Re: Extremely early cap formation / growth termination [Re: mycotreats14]
    #14126517 - 03/15/11 06:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

well i only used miracle grow products once and couldnt get mine to pin coulda just been me IDK,, cant say fo sure!@


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblesandman420
Saint PP
Male


Registered: 06/17/04
Posts: 5,384
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Extremely early cap formation / growth termination [Re: bakenast]
    #14126561 - 03/15/11 06:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

this is extremely common with koh samui, it happened practically every time I grew it. A few people seem to get decent results with it but I always have a useless flush of shrooms that arent even worth harvesting.


--------------------
- Sandbag Tek - How To Sterilize Spawn Bags - All About Static Pressure / Pressure Drop for DIY Flow Hoods - Sandman's LC Tek-

Marijuanaut escapes earth to cultivate - Grow-room is church temple of the new stoner breed


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleFungal growth
Lootinint
Male User Gallery


Registered: 03/21/10
Posts: 3,641
Loc: under a rock in your yard
Re: Extremely early cap formation / growth termination [Re: sandman420]
    #14126596 - 03/15/11 06:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i had a tub of orissa grow like that once. simple coir/verm sub.
AWESOME pinset. teeny tiny 1 1/2 inch fruits. perfectly formed, but tiny
and weak. :shrug:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleRaw
Muslim
 User Gallery


Registered: 03/23/10
Posts: 1,419
Loc: USA West Coast Flag
Re: Extremely early cap formation / growth termination [Re: mycotreats14]
    #14126618 - 03/15/11 07:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I think it is a mutation caused by a contam.  Just one theory...  It happened with a trich contam.  Causes the strongest mycelia to have mushrooms that miniaturize...  Totally sucks.  Mushroom mycelium does weird things around contams


Edited by Raw (03/15/11 07:03 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinemycotreats14
Stranger
Registered: 02/26/11
Posts: 6
Last seen: 12 years, 10 months
Re: Extremely early cap formation / growth termination [Re: sandman420]
    #14126653 - 03/15/11 07:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

really? I've never heard that about Koh Sumui, but I guess I hadn't really looked into it either.  The confounding issue here is that this stunted growth also occurred with a tub of Orissa Indias...


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinemycotreats14
Stranger
Registered: 02/26/11
Posts: 6
Last seen: 12 years, 10 months
Re: Extremely early cap formation / growth termination [Re: Raw]
    #14126663 - 03/15/11 07:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

@ Raw: ugh I was a bit worried about that as well... There doesn't appear to be any visible contam of any kind but you're saying it could be a mycelial contaminate, something that could allow great mycelium but cause tiny fruits?


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: North Spore Boomr Bag   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Mushroom-Hut Mono Tub Substrate   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Re: Fat Stems, tiny caps. Am I doing something wrong? Anonymous 4,023 4 01/13/00 03:40 PM
by Anonymous
* Concerns About Mushroom Growth Cap Ten 979 6 12/03/02 11:46 PM
by zeta
* Odd
( 1 2 all )
trozzle 683 24 03/08/18 05:17 AM
by Failboat
* Psilocybe Cubensis Growth Parameters Psilocybin_monkey 6,914 3 12/13/22 07:47 AM
by sather
* Psilocybe Cubensis Growth Parameters indicaz 2,154 1 06/28/02 04:18 AM
by indicaz
* Problems initiating pin formation Cooltuba 1,903 8 12/02/03 09:25 PM
by BangoBojangles
* Re: Does blue light affect growth? Anonymous 1,057 3 06/19/00 08:54 AM
by ez-e
* Potency Differences Between Caps and Stems...
( 1 2 all )
gce21 101,731 35 03/10/20 01:28 AM
by bodhisatta

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, veggie, mushboy, fahtster, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato, Land Trout, A.k.a
658 topic views. 17 members, 163 guests and 47 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.022 seconds spending 0.007 seconds on 14 queries.