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OfflineCanadian Bud
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I used to want to try psychedelics, then I read about this...
    #14125542 - 03/15/11 03:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I know it's a bit redundant, but I have read many stories about hppd. It seems that almost everyone that has tried psychedelics develops some form of this condition... I don't know, any thoughts?

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Re: I used to want to try psychedelics, then I read about this... [Re: Canadian Bud]
    #14125556 - 03/15/11 03:37 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)



Just don't eat alot of acid and you should be hppd free.


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Re: I used to want to try psychedelics, then I read about this... [Re: Canadian Bud]
    #14125562 - 03/15/11 03:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

If this is something that deeply concerns you, then it might be wise to avoid using psychedelics. Do what you think is best for you. :thumbup:


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Re: I used to want to try psychedelics, then I read about this... [Re: fungivore]
    #14125575 - 03/15/11 03:42 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

fungivore said:
If this is something that deeply concerns you, then it might be wise to avoid using psychedelics. Do what you think is best for you. :thumbup:




Totally worth any risk of some minor afterimages or other minor vision distortions for me.

Psychedelics have been extremely beneficial for me.

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Re: I used to want to try psychedelics, then I read about this... [Re: Canadian Bud] * 1
    #14125587 - 03/15/11 03:44 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: I used to want to try psychedelics, then I read about this... [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14125607 - 03/15/11 03:48 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Good for you. Its not for everyone... as most things.


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Re: I used to want to try psychedelics, then I read about this... [Re: Canadian Bud]
    #14125641 - 03/15/11 03:56 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Canadian Bud said:
It seems that almost everyone that has tried psychedelics develops some form of this condition...




Source?  People abusing psychedelics by using them at a great frequency tend to experience visual disturbances for a period after ceasing to trip, and in some cases even a single trip can cause similar effects, but in general the visual disturbances are nowhere near debilitating enough to be classified as a disorder in the case of HPPD.  Moreover the beneficial effects of psychedelics tremendously outweigh the temporary inconvenience of such visual disturbances, if they're even inconvenient in the first place.


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Re: I used to want to try psychedelics, then I read about this... [Re: deCypher]
    #14125775 - 03/15/11 04:27 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

fuck whats wrong with a little hppd, i fuck with phycs alot and i will only ever notice them if i try (stop and stare at somthing verry hard) and even then its extreamly little,, i trip probaly evey 3 days.

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Re: I used to want to try psychedelics, then I read about this... [Re: harrisonbrtn]
    #14125793 - 03/15/11 04:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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harrisonbrtn said:
fuck whats wrong with a little hppd, i fuck with phycs alot and i will only ever notice them if i try (stop and stare at somthing verry hard) and even then its extreamly little,, i trip probaly evey 3 days.





oh... you'll settle down when you grow up :wink: every three days is ridiculous. even once a week is pushing it. youll get tired of it very soon. and the magic will be lost.


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Re: I used to want to try psychedelics, then I read about this... [Re: Canadian Bud]
    #14125842 - 03/15/11 04:41 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Look, HPPD is nothing to be concerned about. The majority of HPPD happens to people who take around 500 doses... 500 blotter papers... 500 drops... You get the point.

One or even ten doses won't get you seeing imaginary things after it wears off... just maybe a day of recollecting your thoughts. Other than that, you're fine.

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Re: I used to want to try psychedelics, then I read about this... [Re: lasdR]
    #14125851 - 03/15/11 04:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

ya i know :P i just switch substances verrry often, all of my friends drink and i would rather trip than drink. also ive been tripping about every week for a year now. i go for like 2 weeks every three days when i have a new substance ;P

(also i smoke dmt) which is a verry short trip  so its not like im doing acid every 3 days

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Re: I used to want to try psychedelics, then I read about this... [Re: harrisonbrtn]
    #14126015 - 03/15/11 05:08 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I have super HPPD

and its awesome.


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Re: I used to want to try psychedelics, then I read about this... [Re: harrisonbrtn]
    #14126092 - 03/15/11 05:18 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I agree with many above...  Not for everyone

There is always time later on to try, but would think any fears you have will lead to a negative experience


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Re: I used to want to try psychedelics, then I read about this... [Re: Canadian Bud]
    #14126170 - 03/15/11 05:28 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Canadian Bud said:
I know it's a bit redundant, but I have read many stories about hppd. It seems that almost everyone that has tried psychedelics develops some form of this condition... I don't know, any thoughts?




I'm going to have to say that if this is something you are worried about, then maybe you shouldn't be doing psychedelics.

I remember reading this once:

"The hallucinogenic experience is so striking that many subsequent disturbances may be attributed to it without further justification. The highly suggestible or hysterical individual would tend to focus on his LSD experience to explain subsequent illness. Patients have complained to Abramson that their LSD exposure produced migraine headaches and attacks of influenza up to a year later. One Chinese girl became paraplegic and ascribed that catastrophe to LSD. It so happened that these people were all in the control group and had received nothing but tap water."

Basically it indicates that if you are worried about "side effects" then you will most likley attribute every little change in perception you ever have ever again to your drug use and think you have some form of HPPD.

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Re: I used to want to try psychedelics, then I read about this... [Re: Dawks]
    #14126252 - 03/15/11 05:47 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Not wanting to do psychedelics because of fear of HPPD is,

quite frankly,

fucking retarded.


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Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.

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Re: I used to want to try psychedelics, then I read about this... [Re: pfxtc]
    #14126354 - 03/15/11 06:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I definitely think you need to do some more reading before you jump into the psychedelic world.

I'd rather be well educated on any substances I take as well as all of the known side effects.. and it seems as if you haven't educated yourself enough.  The world is full of information.  Hold off on your first substance and hit the books!


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Re: I used to want to try psychedelics, then I read about this... [Re: Cynosure]
    #14126384 - 03/15/11 06:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

That may be true, but any scientific data regarding chemicals varies from person to person. Only true test of knowledge is experience.


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Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.

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Re: I used to want to try psychedelics, then I read about this... [Re: Canadian Bud]
    #14126544 - 03/15/11 06:48 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

before i did psychedelics i was so fascinated and interested in them that nothing could hold me back

OP, can you really go your life without that experience? It would be like dying without ever having sex.  All because you were scared by a little visual disturbance...throw your fears to the wind and fucking take a risk, what are trying to preserve anyhow? One day we all die and then your mind goes to shit anyways, you might as well explore it while you an.


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Re: I used to want to try psychedelics, then I read about this... [Re: pfxtc]
    #14126590 - 03/15/11 06:57 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

pfxtc said:
Not wanting to do psychedelics because of fear of HPPD is,

quite frankly,

fucking retarded.




I think carefully balancing the costs and benefits, trying to determine probabilistic results and unforeseen consequences is the trademark of an intelligent mind.

To the OP, there are real and negative possibilities and outcomes for some who take these drugs.  The experience can also be rewarding and ineffable. I say fuck it and do it.


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Re: I used to want to try psychedelics, then I read about this... [Re: joemolloy]
    #14126638 - 03/15/11 07:04 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

DMT is bullshit?

what?

Anyway, you can't weight the costs and benefits of something you have no idea of.

That is all.


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Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.

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