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Does cannabis cause cancer?
#14125095 - 03/15/11 02:04 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Upon looking for insight into this question I stumbled upon some important information:
'Cannabis smoke contains many of the same cancer causing substances (carcinogens) as tobacco - at least 50 of them. One of these carcinogens is benzyprene. Benzyprene is in the tar of both tobacco and cannabis cigarettes. We know that benzyprene causes cancer. It alters a gene called p53, which is a tumour suppressor gene. We know that 3 out of 4 lung cancers (75%) occur in people who have faulty p53 genes. The p53 gene is also linked to many other cancers. Cannabis also contains a substance called THC (tetrahydrocannabinol). It is the THC in the cannabis that changes your mood and behaviour. The amount of THC in a cannabis cigarette varies considerably. Researchers have shown that THC causes benzpyrene to promote the p53 gene to change.'
But then followed by intrestingly stating:
'But other researchers have looked at the effects of pure THC on brain tumour cells and found that it killed them in laboratory tests. This is a long way from using it as a treatment. But you can see from this that the evidence on cannabis causing cancer is confusing.'
http://www.cancerhelp.org.uk/about-cancer/cancer-questions/does-smoking-cannabis-cause-cancer
Would like to know what the fellow pot smokers have to say about this. Just wanted to get this information out there.
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Re: Does cannabis cause cancer? [Re: Abuse]
#14125133 - 03/15/11 02:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm banking on nothing happening or the two counteract each other. Eh, I wouldn't stop toking anyways so I don't worry about it.
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Re: Does cannabis cause cancer? [Re: Abuse]
#14125198 - 03/15/11 02:23 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Cannabis does NOT cause cancer - no study I've seen has ever shown that it does... smoking cannabis could though.
That is because of combustion though not because of cannabis.
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Re: Does cannabis cause cancer? [Re: Kada]
#14125199 - 03/15/11 02:23 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Life is short,too short to stop doing things you like that may or may not have a detrimental effect on your health way down the line.
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Re: Does cannabis cause cancer? [Re: LobsterSauce]
#14125201 - 03/15/11 02:24 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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EVERYTHING causes cancer. Didntyaknow?
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Re: Does cannabis cause cancer? [Re: gzuf]
#14125231 - 03/15/11 02:30 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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If I find this I'll post it but I remember seeing some studies of daily cannabis smokers vs daily tobacco smokers vs daily cannabis AND tobacco smokers.
I don't remember the exact results but I think I remember reading that the cannabis smokers didn't get cancer (or at least no cancers involved with smoking).
A decent amount of cigarette smokers did get some kind of problems, some involving cancer, and some cigarette/cannabis smokers had problems, but considerably lower than the exclusive cigarette smokers.
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Re: Does cannabis cause cancer? [Re: Abuse]
#14125244 - 03/15/11 02:32 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Abuse said: But then followed by intrestingly stating:
'But other researchers have looked at the effects of pure THC on brain tumour cells and found that it killed them in laboratory tests. This is a long way from using it as a treatment. But you can see from this that the evidence on cannabis causing cancer is confusing.'
this doesnt tell you that the pure THC was injected directly into the tumor and was only done on 2 test subjects, it also doesnt cover anything about the test subjects like whether or not they had undergone any sort of treatment prior to the THC injection
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Re: Does cannabis cause cancer? [Re: Eminence]
#14125254 - 03/15/11 02:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well, there is a 14-year Kaiser Permanente study finding no causal link between smoking cannabis and mortality rates (e.g. cancer). Kaiser was investigating its potential as a medication.
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Re: Does cannabis cause cancer? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14125265 - 03/15/11 02:35 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:
Abuse said: But then followed by intrestingly stating:
'But other researchers have looked at the effects of pure THC on brain tumour cells and found that it killed them in laboratory tests. This is a long way from using it as a treatment. But you can see from this that the evidence on cannabis causing cancer is confusing.'
this doesnt tell you that the pure THC was injected directly into the tumor and was only done on 2 test subjects, it also doesnt cover anything about the test subjects like whether or not they had undergone any sort of treatment prior to the THC injection
plus, it didn't kill the cancer, it slowed them down if I remember the article right..
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Re: Does cannabis cause cancer? [Re: Moronicus]
#14125463 - 03/15/11 03:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Food does, the right vitamins do, weed and mushrooms most likely do as well. http://www.hulu.com/watch/219298/tedtalks-william-li-can-we-eat-to-starve-cancer#s-p3-sr-i0
Watch that video, these foods prevent and cure cancer.
Fish Flounder (sole) Haddock Halibut Herring Mackerel Salmon Sardines Tuna
Fruits Apples Blackberry Blueberry Cherries Clementines Cranberries Grapefruit Lemon Nectarines Oranges Peaches Pomegranate Raspberries Red grapes Strawberries
Herbs & Spices Basil Black pepper Cinnamon Flaxseed Garlic Ginger Ginseng Lavendar Licorice root Nutmeg Oregano Rosemary Sesame seed Tarragon Tumeric
Legumes Lentils Lima beans Soybean Sword jackbean Tofu (soft, firm, dried, fried), miso, natto
Mushrooms Enoki mushrooms King oyster mushrooms Maitake mushrooms Matsutake mushrooms Oyster mushrooms Reishi mushrooms Shiitake mushrooms
Nuts Cashews Chestnut Pine nuts Sesame Walnuts
Seaweed Arame Dulse Kombu Mozuku Nori Wakame
Shellfish Cuttlefish Oysters Sea Cucumber Shrimp and prawn Squid and squid ink
Vegetables Artichokes Beets Bok choy Broccoli Brussel sprouts Cabbage (red, savoy, white) Carrots Cauliflower Chard Endives Kale Mustard greens Olives and olive oil Onions Parsley Parsnip Peppers Pumpkin Radishes Salsify Scallions Shallots Soybean sprouts Spinach String beans Sweet potatoes and yams Thistle Tomatoes Turnip and their tops Watercress Winter squashes
Other Dark Chocolate Green Tea Maple Syrup
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Re: Does cannabis cause cancer? [Re: iluvfungi]
#14125492 - 03/15/11 03:22 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Doubt weed or mushrooms do
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Re: Does cannabis cause cancer? [Re: twighead]
#14125514 - 03/15/11 03:27 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
twighead said: Doubt weed or mushrooms do 
All these do,
Mushrooms Enoki mushrooms King oyster mushrooms Maitake mushrooms Matsutake mushrooms Oyster mushrooms Reishi mushrooms Shiitake mushrooms
and $5,000 says psychedelic ones do as well.
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Re: Does cannabis cause cancer? [Re: iluvfungi]
#14125528 - 03/15/11 03:29 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I wasn't intending a discussion on what other shit that causes cancer, specifically weed (when smoked).
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Re: Does cannabis cause cancer? [Re: iluvfungi]
#14125554 - 03/15/11 03:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
iluvfungi said:
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twighead said: Doubt weed or mushrooms do 
All these do,
Mushrooms Enoki mushrooms King oyster mushrooms Maitake mushrooms Matsutake mushrooms Oyster mushrooms Reishi mushrooms Shiitake mushrooms
and $5,000 says psychedelic ones do as well.
Wait cure - or cause?
I thought you meant cause.
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Re: Does cannabis cause cancer? [Re: iluvfungi]
#14125578 - 03/15/11 03:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
iluvfungi said:
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twighead said: Doubt weed or mushrooms do 
All these do,
Mushrooms Enoki mushrooms King oyster mushrooms Maitake mushrooms Matsutake mushrooms Oyster mushrooms Reishi mushrooms Shiitake mushrooms
and $5,000 says psychedelic ones do as well.
you already owe me $5, I know you're not going to pay off on the $5000
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Re: Does cannabis cause cancer? [Re: iluvfungi]
#14125613 - 03/15/11 03:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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iluvfungi said: Nutmeg.
pretty sure that gives you cancer too brah
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Re: Does cannabis cause cancer? [Re: Abuse]
#14125686 - 03/15/11 04:08 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Fuck dat shit and read the following document:
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Re: Does cannabis cause cancer? [Re: Abuse]
#14125690 - 03/15/11 04:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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All those food only reduce the risk of cancer, rather than prevent or cure.
Basically they normalize angiogenesis, which is how cancer gets its resources. Cancer effect a general location fooling the brain into increasing angiogenesis in an area that doesn't need it effectively providing sustenance for the cancerous cells to grow and divide.
These foods don't actually hurt cancer directly, they just help starve the cancer.
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Re: Does cannabis cause cancer? [Re: Abuse]
#14125698 - 03/15/11 04:11 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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The cannabinoids found in cannabis can cause cancer cells to undergo Apoptosis (the process of programmed cell death that may occur in multicellular organisms).
Statistical evidence showing up consistently as anomalies in matched populations indicates that people who smoke tobacco cigarettes are usually better off and will live longer if they smoke cannabis moderately, too. UCLA Tashkin studies, 1969-97; U.S. Costa Rican, 1980-82; Jamaican studies 1969-74, 76.)
If anything cannabis possess anti-carcinogenic properties 
THC initiates brain cancer cells to destroy themselves
Smoking Marijuana Does Not Cause Lung Cancer
Cannabis chemicals may help fight prostate cancer
New Study Further Debunks Marijuana-Cancer Link
Pot Shrinks Tumors; Government Knew in '74


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Re: Does cannabis cause cancer? [Re: openmind]
#14125713 - 03/15/11 04:14 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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There is a very nice review with >100 references in that pdf I uploaded. Its worth taking a look at it.
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