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Re: Magnitude 8.8 Earthquake Hits Japan. [Re: koraks]
#14124385 - 03/15/11 10:11 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thats not good. At this point should we just entomb it with lead? What about all the people within a 20 mile radius . Yes I know the wind is blowing out to sea now but if it shifts.
Shouldn't they evautce some of those 100,000 people now while radiation leaves are lower.....
Or maybe they cant.
I just feel like things are worse then they are letting on. They should have evacuated the area immediately before things spiraled slowly out of control.
See where all this sunny optimism gets you. Hope for the best but prepare for the worst
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Re: Magnitude 8.8 Earthquake Hits Japan. [Re: trekie]
#14124407 - 03/15/11 10:18 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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They should have evacuated the area immediately before things spiraled slowly out of control.
Well, that's exactly what they did, isn't it? I mean, the Japanese government progressively enlarged the radius around the plant from which people were evacuated. I understand that this evacuation has been compulsory instead of strongly recommended for 24 hours or so, with the vast majority of people actually gone from the area.
The problem is that you can't really evacuate the complete northern half of Japan. It is also questionable if this is necessary.
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Thats not good. At this point should we just entomb it with lead?
They'll first have to cool down all the fuel in the reactors and in the spent fuel pool at reactor 4. Otherwise the lead encasing (which would be kind of difficult to put in place, let alone seal off effectively, but that's a different story) would melt soon enough and you're back at square one. Cool first, then contain.
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Re: Magnitude 8.8 Earthquake Hits Japan. [Re: trekie]
#14124481 - 03/15/11 10:38 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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How in the hell do you evacuate hundreds of thousands or even millions of people in a country that has seen this level of infrastructure damage (intermittent power supply, broken roads, etc)?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/events/japan-quake-2011/beforeafter.htm
This situation totally fucking sucks. I actually made some money off of it by betting against both the Japanese and US stock markets yesterday, including unrelated names that appeared weak such as Verizon, where I figured aggregate market pressure could slaughter them, and short term, it did.
I sold those bets first thing in the morning and went long to make even more money, and promptly went to Google's Crisis Response page to donate directly to the Japanese Red Cross.
If you are able to give, please help these people. We all share this planet and on some level we are all family.
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Re: Magnitude 8.8 Earthquake Hits Japan. [Re: geokills]
#14124501 - 03/15/11 10:43 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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i had the feeling some smart people were making heaps of money on the stock markets, wish i knew how, could use a bit of financial magic right here as well.. updated list of earthquakes
NY Times photos of the aftermath
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Re: Magnitude 8.8 Earthquake Hits Japan. [Re: Simisu]
#14124609 - 03/15/11 11:09 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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i've considered making $ off their situation, but it's pretty damn immoral
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Re: Magnitude 8.8 Earthquake Hits Japan. [Re: bbl337]
#14124644 - 03/15/11 11:19 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm sure I'm not the first to say this... But it must be said
US MILITARY DID THIS USING HAARP!!!
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Re: Magnitude 8.8 Earthquake Hits Japan. [Re: bbl337]
#14124645 - 03/15/11 11:19 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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bbl337 said: i've considered making $ off their situation, but it's pretty damn immoral 
Bullshit. If you can make money off of a current event no matter how tragic the event may be (so long as you are not hurting anyone by the method by which you are making the money), there's nothing immoral or stopping you from funneling those newly amassed capital resources right back to where they are needed most. It's what I did, and I'm happy to have been able to do it. You can sit idly and trust that the Wall Street bankers may donate some of the money they are no doubt making hand over fist on a volatile day like today, or you can take some of it for yourself and then YOU get to decide where it goes.
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Re: Magnitude 8.8 Earthquake Hits Japan. [Re: geokills]
#14124686 - 03/15/11 11:30 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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geokills said:
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bbl337 said: i've considered making $ off their situation, but it's pretty damn immoral 
Bullshit. If you can make money off of a current event no matter how tragic the event may be (so long as you are not hurting anyone by the method by which you are making the money), there's nothing immoral or stopping you from funneling those newly amassed capital resources right back to where they are needed most. It's what I did, and I'm happy to have been able to do it. You can sit idly and trust that the Wall Street bankers may donate some of the money they are no doubt making hand over fist on a volatile day like today, or you can take some of it for yourself and then YOU get to decide where it goes.
it would be raising the prices of the shit they need to rebuild their country, not cool.
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Re: Magnitude 8.8 Earthquake Hits Japan. [Re: geokills]
#14124724 - 03/15/11 11:36 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Magnitude 8.8 Earthquake Hits Japan. [Re: bbl337]
#14124857 - 03/15/11 01:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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bbl337 said: it would be raising the prices of the shit they need to rebuild their country, not cool.
How do you presume to assert that this is the case? I bought put options on the Japanese EWJ aggregate market ETF and the United States SPY aggregate market ETF's yesterday, including puts on Verizon stock. The positions were all closed early this morning. Notwithstanding the fact that the Japan specific EWJ has retraced today's entire decline and is looking to close flat, I sincerely doubt that the Japanese people were the ones who were sitting at the trading computers and selling me those puts on the cheap yesterday, and to whom I sold them back expensive this morning. Almost undoubtedly, it was other US traders and banks whom I was transacting with, as I was trading on the US exchanges. VZ and SPY don't have any direct correlation with Japan whatsoever. What I hope will have a definite effect on Japan, is my subsequent donation directly to Japan.
Furthermore, investing in ancillary companies that should benefit from the crisis such as Clean Harbors (CLH) and Caterpillar (CAT), will not result in higher machinery or service costs to the Japanese. What it will allow, is for these companies to receive additional financing from the capital markets, should it become necessary to do in order to increase production and service the incredible demand that this crisis is bound to produce for industrial clean up and heavy machinery services. With more attractive financing, the actual sales cost of the equipment and services provided may actually be less than it would be if supply overwhelmed demand and easy financing were not available to the companies that are instrumental in helping to clean and rebuild the Japanese nation.
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Re: Magnitude 8.8 Earthquake Hits Japan. [Re: Brainiac]
#14124897 - 03/15/11 01:23 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Brainiac said: Gilbert Gottfried fired as voice of Aflac duck for tweeting jokes about Japan earthquake... IE What does every Japanese person have in their apartment? Flood lights.. Not very smart when your employee does alot of business there... 
Well he's the king of "too soon" jokes. That's his thing.
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Re: Magnitude 8.8 Earthquake Hits Japan. [Re: Ran-D]
#14124930 - 03/15/11 01:29 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ran-D said: I'm sure I'm not the first to say this... But it must be said
US MILITARY DID THIS USING HAARP!!!
why on earth would US do that? you realize how much of an ally japan has become? do you realize how much we trade with them? it hurts our economy because of this tragedy.
if anything theyre using HAARP to stop drastic earth changes.
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Re: Magnitude 8.8 Earthquake Hits Japan. [Re: Muufokfok]
#14124933 - 03/15/11 01:30 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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geokills said: I sold those bets first thing in the morning and went long to make even more money, and promptly went to Google's Crisis Response page to donate directly to the Japanese Red Cross.
If you are able to give, please help these people. We all share this planet and on some level we are all family.
They need all the help they can get.
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Re: Magnitude 8.8 Earthquake Hits Japan. [Re: gzuf]
#14124937 - 03/15/11 01:31 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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gzuf said:
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geokills said: I sold those bets first thing in the morning and went long to make even more money, and promptly went to Google's Crisis Response page to donate directly to the Japanese Red Cross.
If you are able to give, please help these people. We all share this planet and on some level we are all family.
They need all the help they can get.
just posted on facebook. Some people around here keep saying that japan is rich and does not need any one elses money for this.
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Re: Magnitude 8.8 Earthquake Hits Japan. [Re: Ran-D]
#14124954 - 03/15/11 01:34 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ran-D said: I'm sure I'm not the first to say this... But it must be said
US MILITARY DID THIS USING HAARP!!!

This makes no sense
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Re: Magnitude 8.8 Earthquake Hits Japan. [Re: propensity]
#14125032 - 03/15/11 01:50 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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i just donated 2000 yen, or 25$.
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Re: Magnitude 8.8 Earthquake Hits Japan. [Re: Muufokfok]
#14125041 - 03/15/11 01:52 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I donated 10 bucks. Hope my money can help someone.
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Re: Magnitude 8.8 Earthquake Hits Japan. [Re: propensity]
#14125047 - 03/15/11 01:54 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I went to a Japanese restaurant last night and all the servers looked so melancholy
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Re: Magnitude 8.8 Earthquake Hits Japan. [Re: propensity]
#14125048 - 03/15/11 01:54 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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propensity said:
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Ran-D said: I'm sure I'm not the first to say this... But it must be said
US MILITARY DID THIS USING HAARP!!!

This makes no sense
makes perfect sense to me.. theirs an inside government n an outside government. look at 9/11.. u never woulda thought we'd bomb our own country. they obviously destroyed the twin towers for some purpose. enconomical.. population control.. who knows..
you never know wut the inside governments doing. i wouldnt doubt they used HAARP to vibrate the plates n cause a massive chaos just so their plan goes the way they want it.
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Re: Magnitude 8.8 Earthquake Hits Japan. [Re: tripp23]
#14125091 - 03/15/11 02:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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tripp23 said:
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propensity said:
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Ran-D said: I'm sure I'm not the first to say this... But it must be said
US MILITARY DID THIS USING HAARP!!!

This makes no sense
makes perfect sense to me.. theirs an inside government n an outside government. look at 9/11.. u never woulda thought we'd bomb our own country. they obviously destroyed the twin towers for some purpose. enconomical.. population control.. who knows..
you never know wut the inside governments doing. i wouldnt doubt they used HAARP to vibrate the plates n cause a massive chaos just so their plan goes the way they want it.
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