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Possible Fukushima Fallout
    #14119525 - 03/14/11 01:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Be warned anyone on the western coast of USA, due to natural wind currents and weather systems you are in the direct path of winds which will carry the nuclear fallout should the Fukushima power plant meltdown (not to mention the 3 other at risk power stations).




We are all currently being told that this is not a danger, I am no nuclear expert but i remember Chernoble and the cause of the Chernoble meltdown was a failure in the cooling system, according to all reports the Fuckushima plants cooling system failed on 13.03.11 and according to experts the Fukushima plant is not as sophisticated as the old Chernoble Reactor 4.

Good luck anyone in the direct path of the fallout (everyone on the western coast from Alaska to Peru)

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Re: Possible Fukushima Fallout [Re: GGTBod]
    #14119544 - 03/14/11 01:54 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Have you seen Russia? Specifically Russia in the day of Chernobyl?

Japan isn't going to have reactors melting down. They're Japanese n' thangs.


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Re: Possible Fukushima Fallout [Re: blujay]
    #14119574 - 03/14/11 02:01 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

At this point, there is no speak of considerable fallout that could reach that far. In the event of a meltdown, it is still unsure that fallout will be a result. It's good to remain vigilant, I want to emphasize that. But it's too early to make judgments on the basis of two parameters that are at this point unpredictable: the amount of contamination that might be blown into the sky, and the weather.

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Japan isn't going to have reactors melting down. They're Japanese n' thangs.



Two of the three reactors that are currently in risk of experiencing a meltdown were designed by Americans in collaboration with the Japanese. The basis are American designs by GE though. Not that it really matters, but still.

Edited by koraks (03/14/11 02:03 PM)

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Re: Possible Fukushima Fallout [Re: koraks]
    #14119609 - 03/14/11 02:08 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I just saw on the news that a few US helicopter pilots picked up radiation while flying around the plant. 2 on their clothing and 1 on their skin. So it's definitely in the air, but in rather small quantities so far.

Lets just hope it doesn't get worse.


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Re: Possible Fukushima Fallout [Re: koraks]
    #14119612 - 03/14/11 02:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

The weather system is guaranteed, it is the stable system of high and low pressure regions that run the Pacific weather systems, hopefully the fallout is not.

I was a bit of a nerd as  a young kid on weather systems after learning i lived on paralel with Alaska and that the gulf stream system which brings the UK wamr winds from the Caribean is the only reason the Siberian cold front is stopped from having UK constantly under snow.

The pacific jet stream and weather system is a definite constant and one of the largest systems planetwide

hahah anyway nerd slipping out there, hope this shit does not hit the fan.

Compelling viewing and a deep realisation that all us little hairless apes and our toys could be washed away quite easily

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Re: Possible Fukushima Fallout [Re: GGTBod]
    #14119654 - 03/14/11 02:19 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Sweet, I want super powers.

Not worried.

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Re: Possible Fukushima Fallout [Re: GGTBod]
    #14119658 - 03/14/11 02:20 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Shits about to hit the fannnnnnn


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Re: Possible Fukushima Fallout [Re: floydisgod]
    #14119723 - 03/14/11 02:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Shits about to hit the fannnnnnn




was just about to say that. Im kinda hoping it does, doesnt if feel like shits very close to hitting the fan in general?


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Re: Possible Fukushima Fallout [Re: Hakim0777]
    #14119753 - 03/14/11 02:44 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Shits about to hit the fannnnnnn




was just about to say that. Im kinda hoping it does, doesnt if feel like shits very close to hitting the fan in general?





I dunno im starting to think as a species we havent got the balls to whipe ourselves out, at the last minute we pussy out like some pathetic attentions seeker who keeps having shitty suicide attempts

I grew up really believing we wouldnt make it to the year 2000, all my favourite movies the end had happend around 1998, no apocolypse, no asteriod, no nuke war, no ELE, cold war fizzled out, the Ruskies disbanded, the Millenium Bug fucked a few calculators and beta max video players, Osama turned out to be a pussy and Sadaam a joke, really our only hope now is that the north koreans are as mental and world hating as the media will have us believe and that they have got the hairy chestnuts to do it, if not we are waiting on mother nature to scour us off the planet like some type of crusty bogey on a pretty babys face

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Re: Possible Fukushima Fallout [Re: GGTBod]
    #14119910 - 03/14/11 03:20 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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The weather system is guaranteed, it is the stable system of high and low pressure regions that run the Pacific weather systems, hopefully the fallout is not.

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The pacific jet stream and weather system is a definite constant and one of the largest systems planetwide




While this is true, it is the local and much less predictable weather at lower altitudes that directs any airborne contamination towards the higher jet streams. I'm no expert on the weather, but I suspect that this could have major consequences.

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Re: Possible Fukushima Fallout [Re: koraks]
    #14124000 - 03/15/11 07:55 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I've been watching HNK TV for a few hours and they are shitting bricks over radiation levels up to 30km away from the plant after the third explosion.

The shit and the fan are fucking pretty close over there right now.

There was a city call and confirmed death toll on last night, they mentioned each city/district and the number of confirmed deaths and the numbers missing.

Imagine that on your local news....

Newcastle Upon Tyne = 3000 confirmed dead and 1600 missing

Springfield = 2800 confirmed dead and 2040 missing

this went on for about 30 minutes all very solemn all displayed in yellow and red bold font on the screen like some type of fucked up lotttery announcement

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Re: Possible Fukushima Fallout [Re: GGTBod]
    #14124129 - 03/15/11 08:38 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Do you know how Radiation spreads in the atmosphere? It stays up their for 50+ years and spreads all over the World. We don't even have a full understanding of radioactive fallout yet. We know somewhat about the initial effects from exposure, but long term effects are not documented and nearly impossible to do given all the other factors which contribute to health factors.

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Re: Possible Fukushima Fallout [Re: 4runner]
    #14124144 - 03/15/11 08:43 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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anunnakian said:
Sweet, I want super powers.

Not worried.


:lolsy:
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Re: Possible Fukushima Fallout [Re: iluvfungi]
    #14124211 - 03/15/11 09:06 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Do you know how Radiation spreads in the atmosphere? It stays up their for 50+ years and spreads all over the World. We don't even have a full understanding of radioactive fallout yet. We know somewhat about the initial effects from exposure, but long term effects are not documented and nearly impossible to do given all the other factors which contribute to health factors.





It stays up way longer than that, it has a half live of 5000-50'000 years depending on the material, each half life it reduces by half its strength.

Your totally right about we have no idea of the long term effects of our man made radiation especially the highly refined material like the weapons grade shit

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Re: Possible Fukushima Fallout [Re: GGTBod]
    #14124220 - 03/15/11 09:09 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Non-issue. Japanese power plants are safe enough.
Perfectly risk-free? No. Safe enough? Yes.

Even the Russians knew Chernobyl was a bad design. But it was so cheap and easy...


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Re: Possible Fukushima Fallout [Re: GGTBod]
    #14124272 - 03/15/11 09:29 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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iluvfungi said:
Do you know how Radiation spreads in the atmosphere? It stays up their for 50+ years and spreads all over the World. We don't even have a full understanding of radioactive fallout yet. We know somewhat about the initial effects from exposure, but long term effects are not documented and nearly impossible to do given all the other factors which contribute to health factors.





It stays up way longer than that, it has a half live of 5000-50'000 years depending on the material, each half life it reduces by half its strength.



That doesn't mean it stays up that long. Most of it are pretty heavy particles that come down in the form of fallout. A portion remains up in the air, but as long as it's high up there, it's relatively harmless. It's the fallout that comes down that is the nasty bit, because that's what comes into contact with us and the stuff we touch/eat.

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Your totally right about we have no idea of the long term effects of our man made radiation especially the highly refined material like the weapons grade shit



Exposure to radiation raises the chances of cancer developing in the tissues that are exposed to the radiation. The chances of cancer occurring raise along with the time and intensity of exposure (dose). The source of the radiation doesn't matter; the only thing relevant is the type of radiation you receive and the way in which you receive it (esp. the tissues that are exposed), where alpha practically does not penetrate the skin, beta radiation to a shallow depth, and gamma radiation goes right through us and can damage any tissue in the body. When ingested, alpha and beta become particularly nasty due to the fact that they will give off all their energy to the body, while most gamma 'particles' travel right through the body and hence don't impact the body. Nevertheless, high-intensity gamma radiation is to be feared most as the higher the number of particles, the higher the number of particles that interact with tissue in the body. All three forms of radiation are easily detectable with widely available modern equipment and radiation levels are monitored in thousands of places worldwide on a 24/7 basis. We know more than you may think; 100 years of messing about with radioactive substances on a large scale have resulted in more knowledge than many people realize.

The biggest 'unknowns' stem from the fact that if someone contracts cancer, we can't say if it's the result of a radioactive dose received at a certain point or due to other causes. With radioactivity, very little conclusions can be drawn regarding specific cases, but only on an epidemiological level. This is different if huge doses of radiation are received and acute radiation sickness occurs; then the cause and effect relationship is much more obvious.

The question is how much more you actually want to know. Do you want or need to know if the cancer you contract at 76 was the result of the joints you smoked as a teenager, the commercial airline flights you made throughout your life, the remains of 1950s/1960s nuclear tests in the environment, the leftovers of a nuclear powered satellite disintegrating during launch, the remains of Chernobyl, Kyshtym, Fukushima or any of the other civil and military radiation accidents, or just because one little cell went haywire for some other, unknown reason? I think we'll have to accept that we will never know exactly in most cases.

The only thing we can live by is a principle like ALARA, which is a widely used principle in the nuclear industry. It stands for As Low As Reasonably Achievable, and this acronym reflects that it is 100% impossible to reduce the radioactive dose a human receives to 0. All we can do is to keep it as low as realistically possible, given the nature of the universe and the plant we live in/on, and the decisions we collectively make. And the latter involve a couple of hard nuts that we need to crack as a society, in which I personally feel that we need to carefully balance all evils we face. And radiation is just one of those evils, and at present not our biggest and definitely not our only enemy.

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Re: Possible Fukushima Fallout [Re: koraks]
    #14124324 - 03/15/11 09:49 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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